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snatha
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 Posted - May 15 2009 : 11:28:18 AM
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After so many days of trying to understand the tantra blocking technique .I am still not able to master it.I still haven't understood the position of blocking.
can anyone show the right position?
(IF possible Please show in pictures or videos.if this site restricks it I am very sorry for this.but it would better to show in Pics or videos if possible for understanding better & faster.so could u please upload in yahoo videos or something else)
Plese check this video if it helps
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/20739..._short_vers/
I am sorry if any mistakes from my side pls help
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Edited by - snatha on May 15 2009 11:29:53 AM |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 15 2009 : 11:49:56 AM
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Namaste Snatha.....
Hmmm....really doubt you want to see my naked perineum. Haha.... In my experience, there is one side of the perineum that is necessary to press on in order to halt the flow of ejaculate. For me it is the left side. I don't know if it is the left side for everyone, but it is for me. If I put pressure on the right side only, I will have a full ejaculation (unless I hold it in with a pelvic contraction instead). If I put pressure on both sides, I will have a "half" ejaculation. In order to stop the flow of ejaculate completely for me, I use two fingers pressing hard into the left side of the perineum. You should be able to feel the ejaculate being blocked and there should be ample pelvic contractions just below the fingers. If you haven't read this lesson here: http://www.aypsite.org/T5.html perhaps this is a good place to start. Good luck.
Love,
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Buffle37
Switzerland
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Posted - May 17 2009 : 01:43:44 AM
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Hi Snatha,
Dont worry you are not alone, i have also try without success the blocking method. It does not matter, you have others methods to control and transform the sexual energy and the blocking technique is not recommended by all, here is a part of a post of Michael Winn that you can find on :
http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/
(look at healing love : danger million dollar point) :
« …..In all my audio courses, I strongly suggest NEVER using pressure on the perineum point, not even in beginning training, nor at any point in the male training.
Reason is simple: you are using external force to stop ejaculating. But that applied force traps the aroused jing chi in the perineum area, it doesn't re-circulate it - which is the single most important goal of Taoist sexual practice.
To avoid physical and energetic complications from this trapping of sexual energy, you have to quickly circulate internally the sexual energy trapped in the area of the million dollar point and physically massage the area to relieve the congestion. If you don't do this, there are possible negative health side effects and definite energetic side effects - you are creating a STOPPAGE rather than a RE-CIRCULATION.
IF you have the ability to circulate the sexual energy AFTER using the million dollar point (using the orbit, or other pathways I discuss at length in the workshop), then you don't need to use the million dollar point. You should be using that ability, with some combination of internal energetic and pulsing muscular signals, to re-circulate the rising impulse to ejaculate BEFORE you might have needed to ejaculate. This is not only safer, but more effective in achieving the goal of the practice… »
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 18 2009 : 11:06:57 AM
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Originally posted by CarsonZi
Namaste Snatha.....
Carson
Seeing naked perinium ok no problem man
Now I am not understanding exactly about perinium? are u saying below the testicles? or above the testicles? is it near the Anus?(just clearing the doubts)is it in the penis area? is their no work for the PC Musucle?
I saw some pics of perinium .I understood that it stretecs from the auns area to the penis area?
Thanks CarzonSi for the fast reply & sorry for the slow from my side |
Edited by - snatha on May 18 2009 11:36:36 AM |
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 18 2009 : 11:07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Buffle37
Hi Snatha,
Thankyou Buffle for the reply
Now just wait r u saying some other technique I am already gone mad with this one how about another
but no problem let me give a try
Pls let me hear the audio.
Have u been successful with this one?
doesen't the semen flow outward while blocking?
why do u prefer not pressing the perinium?
n what is the million dollar point? |
Edited by - snatha on May 18 2009 11:33:25 AM |
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Buffle37
Switzerland
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Posted - May 19 2009 : 12:53:31 AM
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what is the million dollar point?
A million dollar is the price you have to pay the taoist masters if you want they show you the point you are seeking
May i suggest you read all the lessons of Yogani on tantra specially:
Lesson 4 - The holdback method – A stairway to heaven
You can also search this forum,there are many discussions related to your quest.
I recommand also these 2 books:
http://www.amazon.com/Multi-orgasmi...08147&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Tao-Sexology-...08290&sr=8-3
Good luck, you are at the door of wonderland, if it was too easy it will not be interesting.
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markern
Norway
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 19 2009 : 11:57:08 AM
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Namaste Snatha....
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Originally posted by snatha
Seeing naked perinium ok no problem man
Not so sure I want to be taking pictures of that either way ....wonder what my wife would say if she saw the photo on my phone and knew nothing of the circumstances behind it....hahahaha....
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Originally posted by snatha
Now I am not understanding exactly about perinium? are u saying below the testicles? or above the testicles? is it near the Anus?(just clearing the doubts)is it in the penis area? is their no work for the PC Musucle?
It is behind the testicles and in front of the anus. Right inbetween the two. The PC muscles will be contracting at the same time. Once these muscles are strong enough no manual blocking is necessary and you can block with just the PC muscles. My experience is that manual blocking is necessary first, but not needed forever.
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Originally posted by snatha
I saw some pics of perinium .I understood that it stretecs from the auns area to the penis area?
Yes sir.
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Originally posted by snatha
Thanks CarzonSi for the fast reply & sorry for the slow from my side
No problem and no worries. Good luck.
Love,
Carson |
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 20 2009 : 10:58:59 AM
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Originally posted by Buffle37
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what is the million dollar point?
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Originally posted by Buffle37
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what is the million dollar point?
A million dollar is the price you have to pay the taoist masters if you want they show you the point you are seeking
May i suggest you read all the lessons of Yogani on tantra specially:
Lesson 4 - The holdback method – A stairway to heaven
ANd WHO IS THE TAOIST TEACHER 
I had read the Tantra lessons I feel have understood the holdback method but the blockage method is not got to head
thanks for the reply n books
see u Buffle
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Edited by - snatha on May 21 2009 06:01:29 AM |
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snatha
India
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 20 2009 : 11:02:48 AM
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Originally posted by CarsonZi
Namaste Snatha....
[quote]Originally posted by snatha
Hey man show it know I won't show it my wife bec'z I still don't have one
I am trying .let me get the point.
will be back if found ( or even not )
thanks ccccaaaaaarrrrrrrsssssssssoooooonnnnnnnzzzzzzzziiiiiiii |
Edited by - snatha on May 20 2009 11:06:30 AM |
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 28 2009 : 11:00:12 AM
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Hi Every one
check the link below it shows the point of pressing i.e pressing point in the perinium
tell me if it is correct
so carison now u r no need to get afraid of u r wife
now tell me if the pic shows the correct point the arrow mark shows the point
http://www.dropshots.com/onenone#da...-28/07:23:47
so waitng for u r reply
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 28 2009 : 11:56:29 AM
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Hi Snatha,
The spot I found most effective is a little closer to the anus then is indicated in the picture. Generally the right area though. A little practice and you should be able to find it easily. You will only need to push on one side though. You will need to find out which side for yourself though as I think everyone is different. Hope this helps a little.
Love,
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snatha
India
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Posted - May 29 2009 : 10:26:30 AM
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Hi Carizon
Thank you guiding me.
Now tell me do u put the pressure from backside or frontside
i.e. the hand should come from back or from front? which is comfortable or to tell good
which u prefer?
let god bless u and others for the good work
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 29 2009 : 10:33:07 AM
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Hi Snatha....either way works fine. If you are in "face to face" coitus, or girl on top, something like that, it will be easiest to come from behind. If pleasuring yourself sitting down or something it is probably easier to come from the front. Don't think it really matters. Both accesses work fine in different applications. Good luck!
Love,
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 04 2009 : 10:01:06 AM
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Hi Carson
Ok so it doesn,t matter front or back
thanks for that
now I more calrification
Is this the point of which many were calling " MILLION DOLLAR POINT"?
Is thier any harmfulness by using this method?
You had said this is only for sometime and then it happens without manual blocking
how is that possible?how is it different from this?
Oh my guru pls clarify me
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Jun 04 2009 : 10:32:49 AM
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Good Morning Snatha
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Originally posted by snatha
now I more calrification
Is this the point of which many were calling " MILLION DOLLAR POINT"?
Is thier any harmfulness by using this method?
I have read about a forum member who had some difficulties because of this. I don't remember who it was for sure, maybe Anthony(?), who said that after a while of blocking they started to get pain in the testicles and eventually went to the doctor to find that he had a collection of dead sperm cells accumulating in there. I *think* this is what I remember reading. I'm not 100% sure though. So I would say, sure, there may be some risk involved, but I think it's probably a lot less risky then driving a car. I started using the blocking technique in the summer of last year, and I have never had an issue. And at first I was using it very regularly. After a while it started blocking itself though and I did not need to manually block at all.
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Originally posted by snatha
You had said this is only for sometime and then it happens without manual blocking
how is that possible?how is it different from this?
I don't know if this happens for everyone but this is the progression it took for me: I spent several months manually blocking using the technique we are discussing here. Then after a while I started to notice that I was getting *very strong* contractions of the PC muscle during orgasm and I remembered reading about people being able to block orgasm without using a "finger press" on the perineum and instead blocking it just with the PC muscle contractions. So I gave it a whirl one day and didn't block using my fingers but instead tried to direct the energy up the spine visually, with deep pranayamic breathing as well as with the pelvic contractions. What I found was that at first only a little bit of semen leaked out. After another month of trying this I was able to fully block orgasm without using any fingers and without losing any semen at all.
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Originally posted by snatha
Oh my guru pls clarify me
You are in BIG trouble if I'M your guru man! Haha.
Good luck Snatha!
Love,
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 05 2009 : 07:56:53 AM
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Originally posted by CarsonZi
[quote:
Originally posted by snatha
Oh my guru pls clarify me
You are in BIG trouble if I'M your guru man! Haha.
Good luck Snatha!
Love,
Carson
quote:
Originally posted by CarsonZi
You are in BIG trouble if I'M your guru man! Haha.
Good luck Snatha!
Love,
Carson
wonderfull explaination bravo Carson
I will also pray that let it happen naturally for me also
One who clears the doubt is also a guru
so u cannot escape from me
and I agree that the real guru is yogani
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Thanks Yogani
let god bless carson & everyone here
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Edited by - snatha on Jun 05 2009 09:59:48 AM |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Jun 05 2009 : 10:30:31 AM
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The real guru is in YOU!
Good luck Brother.
Love,
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shaktipath
Croatia
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Posted - Jun 06 2009 : 08:38:43 AM
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Just a dollar from my side ,
you can develop strength with pc muscle by puling it up during the day whenever you manage to remember. It is the same pull as when you want to stop urinating, be gentile and aware.
Later on while in the course of melting with your partner do come out and cool before the peak so you can practice, prolong and make her happy to.
As your pc muscle gets stronger and you more proficient you will be able to block it. Then deepen and move forward from the genital area and contractions by being relaxed and allow energy to be over your whole being. So not just down there where you fight to squeeze not wanting to ejaculate. This will make new pathways upwards which i guess you prepared by spinal breathing. Over time your breathing will be more orgasmic and your life ecstatic.
May it be fruitful for you and your community!
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 06 2009 : 10:43:59 AM
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thanks for remembering the real guru
yes the real guru is inside
thanks carson
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 06 2009 : 10:45:00 AM
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Originally posted by shaktipath
Just a dollar from my side ,
I don't think it is just a dollar
I also wanted to ask this question?
u have just answerd correctly
now what u r telling is manual blocking or just blocking from mind?
pulling means pelvic contration isn't it?
everyone's well ends well
thanks shaktipath
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Edited by - snatha on Jun 06 2009 10:56:19 AM |
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shaktipath
Croatia
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Posted - Jun 06 2009 : 4:18:04 PM
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The days are coming when this knowledge which was reserved only for the sages and kings will be available in our basic education for free and for the benefit of all.
It is better to strengthen the muscle by actual pulling just as you do while stopping peeing , (so there is contraction) then pressing it with fingers from outside. Just as it is more natural to stick your tongue out than pulling it with your fingers,more profound sensual and precise. Mind will be of use when you manage to move your attention while peaking from genital area higher up(not so ease in the beginning), so your orgasmic energy will follow accordingly. Lesson 56 Sambhavi will be precious.
Later on no contractions whatsoever as they are pumping your semen and than you need to block.It is worth mentioning that intensity of your awareness makes new peaks. Under such high voltage of your presence every breath and or penetration is orgasmic. It goes higher and higher so it is caled Pre orgasmic.
Tantra is all about awareness, and our projections are making us blind as we are taking life for granted. Put your intensity into every action as it is your last chance to do it. Or as i like to say touch and hold every thing just as you FIRST touched your child or your long desired lover. Everything is always, fresh but mind dulls life as it likes to put stickers on people ,things...
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 09 2009 : 10:19:19 AM
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Hello Shaktipath
Stoping the peeing to streghten the PC muscle.
See the link below will this
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/20739..._short_vers/
Now do u feel it is useful & correct?have u tried this type?
Now if the same thing is done without Manual blocking & with only mentally will it work out? will the mental blocking while peeing will also Strenthen the PC Muscle?
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Edited by - snatha on Jun 09 2009 10:23:31 AM |
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shaktipath
Croatia
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Posted - Jun 09 2009 : 4:05:29 PM
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Hi Snatha,
this is all borrowed knowledge. You have to discover and master it on your own. Go to the beginning of the thread and when you read those books from Mantak Chia and other resources that are mentioned here you will know better. By that time practice daily with the partner or solo as practice makes the master. It is not over night , so i would say that you might ejaculate 100 times more until you get proficient. So take your time and enjoy every step of the way, do not carve for the goal and one day when you ready it will happen. It usually happens when we stop wanting and desiring. This is as much as I can offer , wishing you fulfillment and joy in you practice!
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snatha
India
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Posted - Jun 15 2009 : 08:15:48 AM
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Hi Shaktipath
sorry for the delay
Now what r the concepts of Mantak Chia
& also how r the solo pratices performed n also tell me its meaning
I searched in this forum thier r so many links.
could u show me a direct link to thier meaning n application
Thankz Shaktipath
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Edited by - snatha on Jun 15 2009 08:21:56 AM |
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