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AlanCrawfordUK
United Kingdom
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 Posted - Dec 14 2010 : 6:37:14 PM
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I am currently masturbating daily, sometimes twice per day. I have had this habit for as long as I have been sexually active. I have developed a desire / Bhakti to address this habit, however, I become aroused easily and have a high sex drive so it will be challenging.
Yogani mentions in the lessons that reaching orgasm about once per week isn't harmful / counter-productive. Getting from once or twice per day to once per week is a big step - should I continue to masturbate daily as I would normally, but use hold back and only allowing myself to orgasm once per week or perhaps by trying to refrain from daily masturbation and then masturbate to orgasm once per week (after employing hold back to increase pre-orgasmic masturbation and self-train for sex?).
Any advice would be gratefully received.
Alan |
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Clear White Light
USA
229 Posts |
Posted - Dec 14 2010 : 9:00:51 PM
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| I think that so long as you are cultivating the desire to bring your sexual function more under control, things will gradually move towards that direction. I came from a similar situation as yourself, and now I find myself having approximately 1-2 orgasms per month, sometimes with periods of several months with no orgasm at all. I didn't really do anything special to get there, except to realize that I needed more control over that area of my life. So long as you are doing the daily practices and cultivating the interest to use your sexuality in a more "productive" way, I think things will be fine. I know that a big thing for me was getting a little bit of direct experience as to the benefits of developing the sexual energy. Then it was no longer theoretical, and I found it easier to "sacrifice" a little bit of pleasure for the greater good of my development. |
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Scott
USA
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Posted - Dec 14 2010 : 9:41:13 PM
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| My view is that refraining is better than retaining. Keep yourself busy when sexual thoughts arise. Once a week is good, and even for people with a high sex drive (trust me, I know) it's possible to maintain. |
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AlanCrawfordUK
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2010 : 02:17:13 AM
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| Thanks guys, this is encouraging. |
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Saagaram
USA
87 Posts |
Posted - Dec 15 2010 : 10:54:04 AM
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| It's fun, just don't squirt. Slowly work on practices and naturally you will want to not squirt. If I squirt it feels like goo is being sucked out of my brow from a straw. My forehead actually starts twitching. If I squirt again I get a headache that lasts for one day and the second day I feel pressure in my head. All the traditions of yoga and tantra talk about the value of semen. Semen in a real sense is the universe's number one physical manifestation of bliss consciousness. Women have this white stuff too. It's not just men, women have semen it just doesn't have sperm. Semen is the white stuff. The clear sticky stuff like cow slobber that comes out as pre-cum is no problem, but it is a sign your white stuff wants to come out, which means you might be toeing the line too closely. At that time doing Spinal Pranayama is the way to go. The practices overall gently promote the internal secretion of the white stuff and its buildup in the spine and brain. Then, internal bliss will be way out man. |
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AlanCrawfordUK
United Kingdom
24 Posts |
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 03:06:47 AM
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On my second full day of abstaining and already I'm getting random, spontaneous erections like a teenager  I will persist in the name of spiritual growth! |
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Chiron
Russia
397 Posts |
Posted - Dec 16 2010 : 03:09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Saagaram
If I squirt it feels like goo is being sucked out of my brow from a straw. My forehead actually starts twitching. If I squirt again I get a headache that lasts for one day and the second day I feel pressure in my head.
Similar thing here!!
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Originally posted by AlanCrawfordUK
I am currently masturbating daily, sometimes twice per day. I have had this habit for as long as I have been sexually active. I have developed a desire / Bhakti to address this habit, however, I become aroused easily and have a high sex drive so it will be challenging.
Yogani mentions in the lessons that reaching orgasm about once per week isn't harmful / counter-productive. Getting from once or twice per day to once per week is a big step - should I continue to masturbate daily as I would normally, but use hold back and only allowing myself to orgasm once per week or perhaps by trying to refrain from daily masturbation and then masturbate to orgasm once per week (after employing hold back to increase pre-orgasmic masturbation and self-train for sex?).
Any advice would be gratefully received.
Alan
I masturbate daily too, usually in the morning and evening from 20 mins to an hour and 2 or 3 hours or more per session on the weekend when there is time :) I've gone around 14 hours before, although that was burning the system a bit :P And this is all without any orgasm or ejaculation. That happens only once or twice per month as Clear White Light said.
Usually I get aroused easily a day or two after having an orgasm, otherwise I'm pretty indifferent/self controlled -- and this feels peaceful and GREAT.
Masturbating daily and using holdback is going to be difficult if you want to orgasm just once a week. I had to learn how to flex the perinium muscle (mulabandha) in order to finish without ejaculation. And finishing without ejaculation resulted in a building up of pressure around the pelvic area, but this reduces gradually as your body gets used to the new sexual function. You may indeed have to refrain from daily masturbation initially to kickstart the transformation process. Blocking the ejaculation with the fingers is probably the first thing you should learn now. Some willpower may be necessary at times but you've got the desire so it will all turn out ok. Good luck! |
Edited by - Chiron on Dec 16 2010 06:20:25 AM |
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tamasaburo
USA
136 Posts |
Posted - Dec 18 2010 : 1:33:50 PM
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I recommend not stimulating yourself or looking at porn until you can get the time between ejaculations a little longer. Later, when you are able to easily go past one week, you can start reintroducing tantric masturbation and other forms of stimulation to boost your energy (you will be able to masturbate, have sex, or look at porn without feeling a need to ejaculate at the end). Trying to increase the length of time between ejaculations at the same time as you keep up the current level of stimulation is too hard.
Also, don't feel like you've failed if you can't make it to a week all at once. I remember for me I had to go from every other day to every third day for a few weeks, then after being at every third day for a few weeks I could go to every fourth day, and so on. Once you pass the one week mark it tends to get easier to go for longer periods of time. Still, I think gradual is the way to go. Right now I'm trying to move from once every two weeks to once every three weeks, but it is fairly tough having a girlfriend--I have to take it in small increments--fifteen days, sixteen days... etc.
This also illustrates how much harder it is to increase the time when you're getting a lot of stimulation. I remember once going for two months without any orgasm when I was single. During this time I was also not looking at porn or masturbating at all. Going for an equally long period but with more stimulation is a higher skill which must be worked up to over time, I think. |
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omarkaya
Spain
146 Posts |
Posted - Dec 27 2010 : 2:31:39 PM
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| it is very wise to keep your energy and not to waste it in such way.try to be more creative, ****ing will not bring you moksha, it will only enslave you.the loss of semen reduce your protective aura and and reduces your spiritual power,aswell as your intelectual faculties,try to give up this bad habit.despite of whatever folks think, sex or better said too much sex brings bad karma,the pleasure later will meet its oposite. PAIN. |
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awaevo
USA
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Posted - Dec 29 2010 : 12:45:38 PM
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be careful when using a manual block. I once used that method and felt a sharp pain shoot up my urethra. The next couple times I used the bathroom I was urinating blood. After that I had ZERO sexual desire for a bout a week or so and had NO desire to really do much of anything (which was actually extremely peaceful, although the method was obviously a bit damaging to the body).
I would say strengthen your PC muscle if you want to use a manual blcok. It may be a bit safer than the fingers.
Also if you mastubating daily and retaining, then its important that you don't let the energy get "stuck". Otherwiese you may become a crazy horn-dog until you release lol. I like to do testicle massage and a few reps of Agni Sara to kinda of spread out the energy. After one of these sessions I usually feel very satisfied with a hightened since of "get up and go".
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tonightsthenight
846 Posts |
Posted - Dec 29 2010 : 2:40:10 PM
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Originally posted by omarkaya
it is very wise to keep your energy and not to waste it in such way.try to be more creative, ****ing will not bring you moksha, it will only enslave you.the loss of semen reduce your protective aura and and reduces your spiritual power,aswell as your intelectual faculties,try to give up this bad habit.despite of whatever folks think, sex or better said too much sex brings bad karma,the pleasure later will meet its oposite. PAIN.
it all depends on the circumstances and intention.
remember that everyone is different 
the idea that, "the loss of semen reduce (sic) your protective aura and and (sic) reduces your spiritual power" is easily refutable. this may be true of some people or of certain stages, but it is not true for all people all of the time. |
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omarkaya
Spain
146 Posts |
Posted - May 01 2011 : 11:08:54 AM
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maxwell W.....NK.go ahead.W....NK. when you think you have enough is when you will.W...NK.again and again,..ONE.KING lost his kingdome. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - May 01 2011 : 12:27:52 PM
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While trying to increase the times between sexual release, try this:
When you feel so much sexual desire you feel you need to do something, sit down, close your eyes and try to feel bhakti, and do spinal breathing pranayama, both up and down like yogani instructs. This will begin to train your body to move that energy, and do other great things with it besides sex. |
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Yogaman
USA
295 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2013 : 09:46:50 AM
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You might take a look at the scientific info over at http://yourbrainonporn.com - there's many discussions about the "90 day challenge" and if the user reports are any indication, there may be quite a bit to gain in both your overall health and perhaps yoga practices.
The whole concept of dopamine (discussed at the above link) has become very interesting to me and its got me curious as to what role - if any - it plays in yoga. Some reports say that meditation causes an increase. |
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Jack
United Kingdom
305 Posts |
Posted - Feb 02 2013 : 10:40:14 AM
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If you watch porn while you masturbate, then try not watching porn. All those images can feed into this sexual addiction.
Second on the yourbrainonporn website Yogaman linked to. |
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