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tonightsthenight
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 01:53:12 AM
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hello there everyone
i just read Lesson 108, regarding kechari mudra.
now, i must say i am pretty skeptical.
i don't see ecstatic conductivity could increase any further, even with this mudra. and it seems inordinately difficult and esoteric.
i would imagine that it must have some benefit to some people, otherwise why the popularity?
please share your experiences with kechari. did it increase the bliss noticeably for you?
i would especially like to hear from people who already were experiencing very high amounts of ecstatic conductivity for years prior to trying kechari... did it change things?
i would try myself just to see but i don't think my tongue goes that far!
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Ananda
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 02:53:55 AM
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A Big Yes, it changes a lot of things. But in case you are experiencing even little signs of overloading then i suggest you stay away.
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tonightsthenight
846 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 12:25:32 PM
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well no worries about jumping into it without planning... because it's physically impossible for me to do
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 12:35:09 PM
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Hi TTN
This was talked about a little at the retreat. I am capable of getting all the way into Kechari stage 4, but generally I stay in stage 1 for most of my practices. It does have an energetic effect (essentially helping to open an energetic pathway straight to the center of the head) but in my experience once that pathway is opened, the same effect can be achieved through stage 1. Others at the retreat said they had had the same experience.
Hope this helps!
Love!
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alwayson2
USA
546 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 5:06:29 PM
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I went through the phase of doing it all the time. Now I hardly do it at all. I should probably get back into it. |
Edited by - alwayson2 on Oct 28 2010 5:09:17 PM |
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tonightsthenight
846 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 5:24:08 PM
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awesome Carson, thanks for the response!
i broached the question because Lesson 108 made Kechari Mudra sound like the greatest thing since sliced bread
so am i correct if i make the interpretation that Kechari probably would have a very large effect on someone just beginning their practices, and not so much for more advanced practitioners?
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Victor
USA
910 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 10:31:27 PM
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I always practice kechari during my pranayama/meditation practice as well as other random times during the day. It doesn't feel strange or esoteric, just another thing that I do with my tongue when I want my energy flow to open up. In meditation and pranayama it opens up a deeper channel in the upper body for the prana to flow. It doesn't feel so much as a dramatic thing but at this phase just feels appropriate at certain times. certainly no harm there anyway |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 10:38:09 PM
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Hi TTN
Kechari only seems to have any significant effect once the inner energies are awakened. Before that it doesn't seem to do much. Once the inner energies are moving kechari then becomes (IMO) a manifestation of bhakti. If you are inclined to do it, do it. If not, don't. There's only one way to find out the effects of kechari really, and that is to try it.
Love!
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tonightsthenight
846 Posts |
Posted - Oct 28 2010 : 11:55:00 PM
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thanks victor and carson
it doesn't sound like a wise investment for me and no bahkti for that here ... was hoping for some understanding about what difference the kechari brings in contrast with normal... if it's just more intensity or if it changed the quality somehow. i suppose the only way to know is to experience (duh) so i guess i will never know
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Victor
USA
910 Posts |
Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 01:28:42 AM
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If there is already alot of energy flow then kechari can help open up channels for its flow so is very worthwhile in my opinion. That said, I would feel a bit reluctant personally to snip very much, not everybody needs to. |
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Chiron
Russia
397 Posts |
Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 04:22:59 AM
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Right now I'm at 'Stage 3' and wondering how I'm supposed to go up those narrow nostrils.. twist, twist, bend.. hmm.. maybe its not long enough *snip* *snip*.. hmm.
Anyway, once I was able to go into Khechari without finger help I did it constantly throughout my daily activities for a few weeks, until I overblew one of my lower chakras. Now I'm a bit more cautious. For me its a practice that has to be combined with devotional/meditative sitting practices, ie. not something to be triffled with, especially since I don't really know what I'm doing yet (if ever?).
Not sure of the direct energy effects (i usually feel effects after practices not during), but it becomes one of the levers you can utilise whenever there is need (such as in Tantra) ie. just like mulabandha at the perinium, uddiyana at the abdomen, sambhavi at the brows etc.. |
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Victor
USA
910 Posts |
Posted - Oct 29 2010 : 04:40:06 AM
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Good question Chiron. I found that stage 4 was god for alternate nostril breathing (which I don't practice at the moment) but otherwise can't get my tongue up the nostril holes either but not worried about it. |
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