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Frank-in-SanDiego
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 Posted - Oct 21 2005 : 11:45:33 PM
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Hari Om
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Hello folks.
I thought I would use the "UG Krishnamurti" conversation as a spring board for this notion.
As his experience is something we consider unique to us, there are mildstones pointed out in the Upanishads that suggest/indicate progress toward Brahman.
Perhaps some of you are having these experiences? your comments are welcomed.
IN the Svetasvatara Upanishad [Sveta = pure and asva = senses, or one that has controlled or has pure senses e.g. a developed individual] it states:
"When yoga is being performed, forms like snow or frost, smoke, the sun, fore, wind, fire-fly. lightening, crystal and the moon appear.
They precede the manifestation of Brahman"
Hence these apprears as road signs along the way to assist the native [sadhu] that progress is happening.
Note too that yoga here is that of the mind/consciousness and not hatha. Brahman is that of Fulless of consciousness or Self-realization. The sutras go on to describe the physical and the mental. that of health, lightness, freedom from desires, one complexion, etc etc.
Enlightenment in an "organized" fashion is attractive - it looks like
UG Krishnamurti's unfoldment did not happen this way. Again, this is by my interpretation. UG only knows.
If you care to read another individual's experience - " I am That" by Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, fields questions from various aspirants.
Brahmavid brahmaiva bhavati
"The knower of Brahman is Brahman itself"
Mundaka Upanishad, 3.2.9
Regards,
Frank in Sandiego
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Manipura
USA
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Posted - Oct 22 2005 : 1:01:35 PM
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I see snow in my dreams a lot.  Usually I'm knee-deep in it. Don't know if it's Brahman, but it's a lot of fun. |
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Frank-in-SanDiego
USA
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Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 9:45:30 PM
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Hari Om
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Hello Meg,
Nice to see some snow eh? I have soo much fun during dreaming I kinda look forward to that portion of the evening!
I have been fortunate to see "fireflys" and some "suns" as the Upanishads have pointed out - yet not on a regular basis. The key is not to expect anything as this gets things convoluted.
Perhaps others in AYP may have an experience or two.
Its nice to know the Upanishads can point this out.
Regards and thanks for responding.
Frank In San Diego
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_Yogi_
USA
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 06:24:36 AM
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| Some people with depersonalization and derealization see snow. It's like static everywhere. I've seen it before, you have to look in a different way sort of. I've had a similar experience to seeing the sun like it says. I've read somewhere stating enlightenment looks like a thousand suns. I once had a dream where in it I realized I didn't exist then everything turned into yellow like the sun, there was no me no other just this light that looked just like the sun everywhere with no boundaries. I wonder if that's rigpa the primordial awareness or a clear light dream. I've read saffron is a holy color its an amber, orange yellow type color. After I saw that light I tried to distinguish separateness and the light changed to a vibrant sparkling saffron. |
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karl
United Kingdom
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 09:01:55 AM
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Yes, a thousand suns, while conscious, it is the capstone, the minds attempt to understand. I am like mist when I stay within it, translucent, ephemeral. I am connected to it at all times, yet can step in and out of it's presence while still connected. When fully engaged there is no I. Tying the senses to it, it is sweet, warm, soft, bright and it sings in the most beautiful tone. I would describe it as pure love, but it seems far more, it fills me completely. Movement in stillness.
I can imagine to some it would seem like a soft fall of snow, the moon, frost and wind all have these qualities and that would be the minds attempts to understand. I think some hear it as a ringing bell.
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tonightsthenight
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Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 11:00:17 AM
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| yes, seeing that has been part of my experience for many years, but it's just another something on the path, and not important per se |
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