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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - Apr 30 2009 : 10:53:50 AM
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POST 4
Encouragement of Kundalini raising
At the end I'll share my experience how to begin Kundalini raising.
At first, the nervous system must be sufficiently clean for this raising (by the help of DM and other yoga limbs) - we have some presence of inner silence. When the time came, sometimes you will notice pleasurable feelings in the pelvic region. This is signal that you can encourage the gentle raising of the true sexual energy from the root to the spine - by the help of mulabandha and sambhavi contractions-relaxations.
Mulabandha contractions-relaxation: The secret here is in the power of this contraction. The contraction of the PC muscle can be really phisycal, but not very hard and not very weak. You must alone determine the suitable power of this contraction - exist the level of the contraction power when pleasurable feeling in the pelvic region appear and increase. You must alone discover this level and keep/call/provocate this pleasure in the PC muscle. When you do SB, this pleasurable/ecstasy feeling appear after relaxation of the PC muscle - just when you move the attention up. Feeling appear with delay after contraction - just when you move the attention up. Then this pleasure/ecstasy raise to the spine and gradually, day after day, will fill your entire body. If appear in sadhana, this ecstasy appear and persist in your daily activity.
Sambhavi contraction-relaxation: Sometimes you can't successfully raise the energy with mulabandha But probably in such case it'll be easy for you to notice that after sambhavi contraction-relaxation, when you move the attention down the spinal tube - ecstasy feeling raise from the root to the spine. Now sambhavi cause this raising. For Sambhavi details in SB Yogani give useful AYP lesson 131.
Idea is that when you notice some pleasurable feelings in the pelvic region, you can encourage in SB the gentle raising of kundalini by the help of mulabandha & sambhavi. This is so called the third stage of sadhana - to awaken ecstatic conductivity of the spinal nerve (see the end of AYP lesson 121).
Exercise with single contraction-relaxation of mulabandha we also must do, discovering the suitable level of power contraction &relaxation. The same rule exist for Yoni mudra kumbhaka too. The same rule exist also for siddhasana - for the pressure of the heel.
It is suitable to the end of these 4 posts remind something from AYP lesson 131: "We never strain or struggle for perfection. There is no such thing. The practice works best when we are easy about it, favoring the procedure we are doing when we realize we have gone off it."
Guru in you. |
Edited by - ThisIsTruth on May 02 2009 5:47:44 PM |
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divinefurball
USA
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Posted - May 01 2009 : 8:32:28 PM
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Hi ThisIsTruth, thank you for sharing these things. What you say in your last post, I have found True too. Knowing this helps me understand better. What do you say of kechari with respect to this.
With profound respect for your wish to share, divinefurball |
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alwayson
Canada
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Posted - May 02 2009 : 12:06:03 PM
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I only gave a cursory look at this thread, but I think I actually agree with this information |
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - May 08 2009 : 5:48:49 PM
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POST 5
Hi divinefurball,
I do the first stage of kechari from years and this is default habit for me.
I do this at every time when it is possible for me. For example - at all sadhana, at daily activity, at rest... Of course I can't do this at eating, drinking and ...
In AYP lesson 125 exist a short description of the energy circulation in the main channels: "On the physical level it occurs in the chest where ascending and descending pranas meet. From there it goes up the spine into the brain, then back down the front, and again back up the spine, and so on in an endless cycle."
The reason to do kechari at all the time when it is possible is very simple. Keeping/holding the tongue end on the roof of the mouth improve the energy circulation through the head - from the back main meridian to the front main meridian (Zhen-Mo). It is well known - the low ends of the front main meridian and the back main meridian are connected in the pelvic floor. But these 2 meridians aren't connected in the head - they are disconnected at the upper jaw and the lower jaw. The tongue make this missing connection at the upper ends of 2 main meridians - to improve the energy circulation.
There are some rules to make successfully kechari stage 1: - keep the tongue end approximately at the center of the palate - don't tense the tongue - this will obstruct the energy flow - do not hold the tongue end at the teeth - you will be sleepy - do not hold the tongue end much to the back - the energy can't move easy through the non relaxed tense tongue. By this reason if you want to hold the tongue back - must work gradually back over time to not tense the tongue. - if you hold the tongue end at the right place of the roof, saliva will appear. Just swallow the saliva and continue to do kechari.
You will feel the gentle energy flow - this is similar to if you touch an electric battery with the tongue.
Make kechari stage 1 every time when it is possible for you - not only in sadhana time. This is useful for the energy circulation.
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divinefurball
USA
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Posted - May 08 2009 : 6:45:15 PM
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Hi this is truth - this is excellent - Thank You So Much. It will take some time to digest all you have said, but it seems maybe you have intermittent internet access, so I wanted to ask you about stage 2 and 3 kechari with respect to this - as I do them often - right away. I will take much more time later and more carefully review your remarks. I can see you are a real adept. It is very gracious of you to communicate with me. I thank you again.
With great respect, divinefurball |
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 1:03:48 PM
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Hi divinefurball,
I'm sorry, but I can't be useful with the other stages of kechari. In my opinion they are wonderfully explained by Yogani in the basic AYP lesson 108 :-)
Or see links to the lessons at http://www.aypsite.org/TopicIndex.html where topic is 'Kechari Mudra'. |
Edited by - ThisIsTruth on May 09 2009 1:50:09 PM |
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divinefurball
USA
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 5:48:36 PM
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Hi ThisIsTruth, thank you again for sharing you wisdom, and you are right about Yogani's explanations, all the best, divinefurball |
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ThisIsTruth
41 Posts |
Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:41:33 PM
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POST 6
Hi to all,
Here is the final SB, suitable for each beginner in the third stage of sadhana (to awaken ecstatic conductivity of the spinal nerve).
//FIRST CYCLE: - put your forefinger between the eyebrows to feel contractions there; - breathe in; - pause breathe; - move down slowly (for 1 or a few seconds) the head and press the chin to the chest, keeping your attention between the eyebrows at the same time; - make sambhavi short contraction; - breathe out and at the same time move down óîur attention to the root; - pause breathe; - move up slowly (for 1 or a few seconds) the head detaching the chin from the chest, keeping your attention at the root at the same time; - make mulabandha short contraction; - breathe in and at the same time move up óîur attention to the place between the eyebrows;
//NEXT CYCLE: - pause breathe; - move down slowly (for 1 or a few seconds) the head and press the chin to the chest, keeping your attention between the eyebrows at the same time; - with your forefinger between the eyebrows make again sambhavi short contraction; - and so on
//Applying gradually in SB other things from my above posts - this is my hint: Suppose that energy movement is similar to the movement of band that we pull out. When we begin to feel how "the end" of the energy "band" enter into the place between the eyebrows or into the root - this is the suitable moment to apply at SB "the fist of wish" short contractions.
Guru in you. |
Edited by - ThisIsTruth on Jul 02 2009 5:35:45 PM |
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Akasha
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Posted - Jul 02 2009 : 9:35:38 PM
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Hi ThisisTruth,
A little clarification.--
In AYP i believe( i may have read that) holding the contractions at either poles, brow and root is developed as a habit as such during SbP.Or Correct me if i am wrong.
Is your approach just to hold the contractions at the end of each cycle as our attention reaches either pole, so respectively at the end of inhale- exhale, brow -to -root( i.e just when our attention is on those places rather than throughout the duration of the practice)?
Is this the ayp approach?
You speak of 'contractions/relaxation' and 'short contractions' as the energy movmement reaches either poles.Or perhaps this is what one does to start with,short contractions , in order to cultivate a habit out of it.
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - Jul 06 2009 : 2:39:37 PM
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Akasha said: "Is your approach just to hold the contractions at the end of each cycle as our attention reaches either pole, so respectively at the end of inhale- exhale, brow -to -root( i.e just when our attention is on those places rather than throughout the duration of the practice)? Is this the ayp approach?"
Hi Akasha,
Because of your rhetorical question - probably you have no need of my answer. But there is a need to answer - for the other members an guests of this forum.
Of course I can ask himself too - is this AYP approach? But here is a small difference among the my & your questions - this will be not a rhetorical question for me. I don't want to focus my attention at this question, because I comprehend that this is the object of a TEAM scientific research work, and this research want much time to bring me to the right answer - but I have no time to spend.
My focus in this topic is in THE DETAILED&PRECISE WORK at 2 POLES that give as a possibility to work efficiently with the energy movement by the help of the attention. This is just physics please, & nothing else - each action cause action against and etc.
And I not want to put my focus at this - "is this my approach or not". I feel that there is no need to put my attention at this. By my opinion for the man there is no need to spend his power in a quarrel disputes.
I WILL BE STRONG WITH YOU - who is the owner of Yoga, please? Why we use each idea from yoga if the idea isn't our? My answer is - Nonsenses OF YOUR MIND, and nothing else.
And because I'm devoted to this my opinion, I want to ask you here: Why you want to attract my attention in this dispute? I know very well that "the energy follow the attention" - why you so exigent/exacting, please?
With very wishes which that speeds from Bulgaria to you. 10x for your question.
The LoveIsInYou. |
Edited by - ThisIsTruth on Jul 07 2009 12:58:01 PM |
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ThisIsTruth
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divinefurball
USA
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Posted - Jul 06 2009 : 10:36:33 PM
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Hi ThisIsTruth, I have been very busy, and not up to my forum obligations on other threads. But I saw this and wanted to say something quickly. First, I want to thank you again, very much, for the real experience you have had the generousity to offer this forum. Second, I want to say, that I think Akasha is expressing real confusion about your reccomendations with respect to how he should conduct his ongoing AYP practices. I think refinments such as you discuss are things that can be seen to harmonize with ayp - especialy once there is a certain amount of ecstatic conductivity. I don't see a conflict, or a problem - as well, this thread is under "other systems of spiritual practices." I like your approach and generousity, in taking the time to express these more refined experiences. Thank You Again, dfb |
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - Jul 07 2009 : 1:02:33 PM
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I'm happy to be usefull for each seeker after truth. |
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Akasha
421 Posts |
Posted - Jul 07 2009 : 9:42:51 PM
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Hi ThisIsTruth,
This detail (SBreathingP-AYP) had been nagging me for a few months.
But i think you answered my question.
And Thanks for clearing that up, and sharing your knowledge with everyone here.
Akasha |
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ThisIsTruth
41 Posts |
Posted - Jul 09 2009 : 05:29:39 AM
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Hi Akasha,
I'm happy for the your Observer position.
I every day apply the bhakti technique that Yogani give as at the beginning of AYP lessons. New for me in this technique was the advice to send to ishta not only good feelings&emotions, but and bad/unpleasant/discomfort too (for example - to not be afraid to be angry with ishta).
And this technique give effect right on time - much easy for the strong feelings&emotions, much difficulty for the weak feelings&emotions, but work right on time. Although it is not easy to progress in this - this is the basic way for the man to learn how to protect his Heart. And progress is possible by the help of daili training (ishta sending/giving), because each of as each day have your oun suitable moments TO GIVE (while the feeling&emotion COMPLETELY disappear from the heart place).
The LoveIsInYou. |
Edited by - ThisIsTruth on Jul 09 2009 05:57:15 AM |
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Akasha
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Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 07:41:17 AM
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Hi ThisisTruth,
Sorry if i sounded like a pain in the pain.....( okay a little joke..)
I looked further back in this thread, and found a relevant lesson L119, (other approaches to mulbandha) you referred to.
Bear in mind i am new to some these advance yoga practices ,So feel free to school me anytime.
The Heart is a fragile thing.We have to be prepared to receive as well as give , and not let our ego and pride get in the way or prevent us from receving.Indeed for some people receviing can be harder than giving whilst for thers it can be giving,they need to slide over to that end of the spectrum to re-gain their balance..The receviing is the balance re-dressed when others,or more correctlly perhaps other forcea at work, are then allowed to give.You can be a container and soak all that love up,like a sponge.But you need to be open to it.It is not easy,. This something i struggle with because of my mis-directed ego and self-pride ,as youu can see.I think i can do everything myself. But we are all in this together,all intimately woven like a patchwork quilt,enmeshed in the intricately complex and unfathomable web of life. Thanks for sharing & shining light on a heavweight subject.
Yogani is a formidable teacher, and the ayp system is extraordinary and awe-inspiring.
Letting emtions like anger dissolve in silence(achevied by doing DM or samyama or both) sounds like a good idea as supposed to say let the thinking mind nibble over it, if & when there is no inner silence.This is like self-inquiry to a miserable person- not very clever.The sytem needs opened, especially the heart to evrything like a receptive vessel, but also giving whn it feels able.
Thanks for illuminating my path, and sharing with the community> Hope to hear read more of your lessons.I, like you, really do hanker after details- i like to know, as we wish to make sure time spent eengaged in sadhana is utilised most efficiently and worthile>So this in turn should amplify a practice's effectiveness.
God Bless,
Akasha![](icon_smile.gif)
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - Jul 10 2009 : 6:59:09 PM
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There is one basic book from James Redfield - "Celestine Prophecy". In this book we can find the basic "Four power roles" and "Four power dramas" of the person life too. Anyone can read this James Redfield book carefully and watch again himself.
GodLoveInYou. |
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ThisIsTruth
41 Posts |
Posted - Aug 24 2009 : 5:46:56 PM
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POST 7 Theme - "SPINAL BREATHING by the Dan Tian help"
Hi to all,
Now I represent here another more powerful technique for SB - SPINAL BREATHING by the Dan Tian help.
At the begining I must point that exist 3 types of channels longways the spine - Du Mai, Spinal Nerve and Central Channel. Do Mai is behind the spine and is well known in acupuncture. Spinal nerve is into the spine and have complex structure. Central channel is in front of spine and is at the line that connect the root with the crown (muladhara with sahasrara).
By the help of this exercise we can clean and drill each of these 3 channels. From these 3 channels - spinal tube is more difficult to clean (sometimes years, sometimes lifes).
CHI SPINAL BREATHING In this kind of spinal breathing we must move the attention into the spinal tube down and up: - drop the head down and press the chin to the chest (djalandhara bandha); - inhale inflating with air the abdomen and especially his low part. Must breathe lightly, without effort; - at the same time move down your attention, following the way of the air and to the root; - when inhalation finish - stop breathing. Among the navel and the pubic bone you must create light/pleasant pressure; - move up slowly (for 1 or a few seconds) the head detaching the chin from the chest, keeping your attention at the root at the same time (make together the head and spine to lie at one line)- don't breathe; - when you move up the head, only keep the pressure/exertion among the navel and the pubic bone. "Connect together" this exertion with the pleasant light exertion of the PC muscle. Don't breathe (you can realize that moving of the head up is the reason of the changes of the feelings at the low part of your abdomen; if you carefully watch the changes of the feelings, you can learn yourself how to create a pleasant feeling at the root); - powerfully contract and relax togrther two "connected" areas (the low part of the abdomen and the PC muscle - for PC muscle details see the above posts). Don't breathe; - move up óîur attention slowly (3 to 6 seconds) from the PC muscle to the place between the eyebrows - don't breathe; - make sambhavi short contraction; - breathe out and at the same time move down óîur attention to the root. //NEXT CYCLE - drop again the head down and press the chin to the chest - inhale inflating with air the abdomen and especially his .... //DURATION May be about 5 minutes, then about 10 minutes classic SB. Next step will be only this kind of SB - if you wish. Or continue with mixing, if they mix well.
EXPLANATION When we inhale - the life energy Chi come into Dan Tian - the energy reservoir. Now we use the Chi from Dan Tian - the energy come out from Dan Tian when we contract and relax the low part of the abdomen. And now - we have what to guide with our attention through the spinal tube to clean and drill... The breathing pause must be at least 6 seconds which is difficult for the begining. The beginner can make more short breathing pause (to feel yourself comfortable). Light shaking is normal for the hands and for the body at this kind of SB - don't worry. The energy just find his places - just relax and allow this. I call this shaking "The Snake".
"Look into you, because if you can't see into you - you can't see nothing out of you. And when into you wake up the Fire Snake that hiss and twist himself like a propeller - keep yourself from the Snake biting. Catch the Snake by the head and look her exactly into the eyes. The Snake will fall asleep and when she wake up again - she will be submissive to you." Nikola Rainov
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Edited by - ThisIsTruth on Aug 30 2009 06:00:24 AM |
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ThisIsTruth
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Posted - Aug 29 2009 : 12:27:35 PM
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POST 8 Posted - Aug 30 2009 : 15:30:35 PM Theme - "Dinamic cleaning of the channels longways the spine"
We know various ways to clean/open energy channels - fast, acupuncture, massage, meditation and other static exercises.
So far I talk about some static exercises, but now is the time to present some dinamic exercises for the channels opening/cleaning.
Some words about blocking of the energy channels - in the channels energy run difficultly, because of the channel heterogeneities. These heterogeneities are consequence of the energy writings (samskaras), some body scraps, or deformations into some body structures. To clean the channel, to delete samskaras, to normalize the body structures, we must bring the powerfull stream of energy into each channel, especially into spinal tube.
Here I put a link to the video of 2 dinamic cleaning exercises, and some explanations: - link to the exercise 1: http://87.121.148.59/Docs/Avi/04Right2x25.avi http://87.121.148.59/Docs/Avi/04Left2x25.avi - link to the exercise 2: http://87.121.148.59/Docs/Avi/05Right2x25.avi http://87.121.148.59/Docs/Avi/05Left2x25.avi
Some explanations: - breathe in and at the same time move your attention up (max 2 seconds) from the PC muscle (root) to the place between the eyebrows; - breathe out and at the same time move your attention down (max 2 seconds) from the place between the eyebrows to the root; - don't breathe - twist the head to the right, the legs to the left and return to the begining position (see videos of exercises); - breathe in - again make 1 cycle of classic spinal breathing (explaned by Yogani) - again don't breathe - make exercise again to the right ......................
Must make 25 repeats of each exercise to the right, then 25 repeats to the left. The body must be relaxed when you make these exercises (as far as possible). When you breathe - you make SB. In the pause you make phisical movement (twisting of the head to the right, the legs to the left and returning to the begining position)
You can include these 2 exercises into the begining of your sadnana.
These 2 exercises are part of the "Life care" dao complex. They can come in quite usefull even you don't make sadhana, just like spine gymnastics. The spine serve as and we can serve the spine too. Because the spine is our base, the base of life - this dao complex is called "Life care". :-)
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Edited by - ThisIsTruth on Aug 31 2009 2:36:59 PM |
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