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Eddie33
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 Posted - Nov 09 2007 : 1:29:09 PM
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I've been reading What is Enlightenment latley.
To anyone who's familiar with that line of spirituality (Ken Wilbur< Andrew Cohen) there's a lot of confusing talk about evolutionary enlightenment, spiral dynamics, tiers, god knows what else.
They also speak a lot about stages of advancement and they go very much into detail about it.
Which in turn made me reflect a lottle bit as to where I'm at.. Now i didn't get very analytical in all of this, but came up with something brief.
I think that in my relentless searching, via reading, constant meditating, and self-enquiry I've established and partly stabiliazed a very shallow form of non-dual awareness into my everyday life. I just feel like part of me isn't there in a sense, and like there's this kind of unbroken chain of awareness if you will, that's always there... But like I said it's very shallow. It's characterized by a paranoid personality, emotional deadness and confusion.. In this very brief assessment I can better see what I need to work on and where I'm going, and right now that mainly means dropping into my body, ingraining good habits and freeing up attention. Instilling a good view of my future so it will manifest better.
I think this is important, even though it can get out of hand in some cases, all this description, I don't know how Ken Wilbur exists.
So if anyone wants to anything of any kind to make a discussion that would be cool. Spiritual experiences are fair game too. I'm kinda pissed because i haven't had one in a while.. j'k.. banking on something big.
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sadhak
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Posted - Nov 09 2007 : 7:48:42 PM
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Hi Eddie,
If you've been going through the lessons/forums at ayp, you'll see that it is by eschewing the intellectual process while you are in meditation you move along the road faster. It is natural to 'want' a spiritual experience in the initial stages, but when you find that the want becomes a barrier, it is equally easy to just drop it. Then you may find that you have more than you want, or better still, that you don't want at all, and are at peace.
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Eddie33
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - Nov 09 2007 : 8:08:59 PM
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Eddie33
USA
120 Posts |
Posted - Nov 10 2007 : 12:11:12 AM
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yes my desire to know intellectually is very strong. it's hard to change it. i try. and it's been smoothing out well for the most part. although i feel like i've been lacking a rythem with my spiritual practice, upon looking at it now i see that it's been a rythem the whole time. but the rythem has just been different from what i've thought it or wanted it to be.. yes i have a powerful mind, and I can say now (now that i'm starting to touch my heart) that i appreciate it. i can't be decieved, by others or myself. i have firsthand experience of how many different angles a single person can look at something... i think to some it up best is to paraphrase my favorite teacher "it is one thing to understand enlightenment, it is a completley different ballgame in trying to understand ignorance".. i feel that i have a very strong bhakti to understand the behind the scenes of it all, and i'm not gonna try and change that anymore.. i want to reach the highest of what you might call an "objective perspective" all the while stabilizing a whole lot of inner silence. basically i want to be able to think very clearly and rationally with no idealistic or materialistic mumbo jumbo attached.. well maybe some mumbo jumbo, lol.. but i think you can catch my drift...
oh boy i can see the osho in me
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