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snake

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Posted - Jul 17 2007 :  02:50:50 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Why is deep med in scientific terms more effective than watching the breath?
thankyou very much

yogani

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Posted - Jul 17 2007 :  09:32:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit yogani's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Snake:

...Because it is not possible to do fully effective meditation and pranayama at the same time -- an underlying principle upon which much of the AYP approach is based. It seems to work.

See here: http://www.aypsite.org/43.html

The guru is in you.

PS: A rudimentary proof of this is found in the fact that when breathing naturally suspends, deep meditation will continue. But how can breath awareness continue when that happens? It cannot. Real meditation is beyond breath awareness. That is why pranayama and meditation are two separate limbs in the eight limbs of yoga, with meditation being the limb right before samadhi (absorption in inner silence). Pranayama is right before pratyahara (introversion of senses), which is appropriate, since pranayama (spinal breathing especially) opens up inner space to us, and the introversion of sensory perception that comes with it. But this is not meditation -- a good preparation for meditation, but not meditation itself. This is why our routine goes asanas, spinal breathing pranayama and deep meditation, in that order. Each goes progressively deeper. Then, with samyama, we come pouring back out as stillness in action.
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