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Mattimo
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 Posted - Feb 23 2007 : 7:30:15 PM
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First of all I would like to say that I have never before seen such a well constructed and free website. I look forward to reading through all of the lessons and browsing through the forum posts and putting into practice what I have learned. I have one question, however, and that is: has Yogani required sufficient meditation "skills" to enter at will into Samadhi?
Thanks for any replies |
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Hunter
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 01:12:10 AM
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Welcome Mattimo!,
Glad to read that you are enjoying the lessons and forum.
Hunter |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 05:08:58 AM
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Hi Mattima
Welcome to the forum.
I am sure Yogani can answer this question better than anyone else. Anyone else could really only speculate from his writings. Samadhi is one of those words that mean different things to different people. This isn't surprising, as in the Yogic texts, many different kinds of Samadhi are described. Of course here, with regard to your question, what matters is what you mean by Samadhi. So if you want to describe for us what your understanding is, then we (and probably Yogani too ) would be in a better position to answer.
Thanks,
Christi
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Mattimo
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 08:06:13 AM
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| My definition of Samadhi would be the process by which the breath is suspended for a duration of time and the consciousness of the individual is merged with all. I only ask if Yogani has achieved this because according to some books I have read, this is the measure of a true master (whatever that might be or whatever truth that holds). I was simply curious. |
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Guy_51
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 08:16:08 AM
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Hi Mattimo:
Welcome to the forum.
I think you'll find the more one gets to know about AYP the more one realizes that it's less about Yogani and more about the work. That is to say, building a long term daily practice. Keep reading the lessons and I'm sure you'll find all the answers you're looking for.
No disrespect intented, but with questions such as yours I can see clearer now why Yogani chooses to remain anonymous.
Best regards:
Guy
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 09:04:18 AM
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Hi Mattimo, and welcome!
Samadhi means absorption in silent Self, or pure bliss consciousness. Deep meditation leads directly to this, and the many other methods we employ add a substantial boost, including the judicious voluntary use of kumbhaka (breath suspension) in certain techniques.
Automatic breath suspension may also occur naturally in samadhi. Anyone who has practiced daily deep meditation for a while can attest to this. But stopping the breath is not the object. Cultivating inner silence is. If we have abiding inner silence, do we really care whether we are breathing or not? It can be a distraction in deep meditation, so we just easily favor the mantra over all that.
An even better condition than samadhi with no breath is samadhi while breathing and being active in the world. Then we are bringing stillness into the world in everything we do. Better not to keep our light under a bushel, or in suspended animation. Divine stillness likes to move, breathing sweetly out on everyone.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 09:55:04 AM
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Hi Mattimo,
It's possible that you may be trying to judge if Yogani is the best teacher for you based upon criterion set up by gurus on other paths. What Yogani has set up as "AYP", is a whole new system of transmitting information, and he prefers not to be called a guru. The "Old School" system was to almost worship a guru, and whatever he says is written in stone. While we have specific rules against bashing any other system, we choose to do things differently, and feel that we get better results because of it.
What we are finding with this new system, is that what is really important is the techniques we practice, and the effects those have on ourselves.
With this system, feedback is allowed, and most of it is between students, in this forum.
With the old system, some gurus may give their followers some cryptic answer they don't understand, and they're supposed to shut up and have faith. Here, we discuss answers until we understand each other. Some of the concepts are difficult enough to understand by themselves.
So a lot of information is transmitted between people, without Yogani intervening. We are all on the same path, and other people have probably been where you are, and there are ways to tell if you are getting somewhere or not, rather than depending on "faith in the master". By the way, you can still have a guru and practice AYP techniques. Many people here belong to various religions also.
In case you didn't understand why yogani didn't specifically answer your question: what he is implying is, what is important is what YOU can do, not what HE can do, and there is something beyond samadhi in meditation. |
Edited by - Etherfish on Feb 24 2007 10:04:09 AM |
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Mattimo
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 9:25:13 PM
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My primary motivation for asking the question was not to judge Yogani, but to judge the efficacy of the lessons presented. Indeed I was attempting to judge them by measure of what I had read with regards to Samadhi. Ultimately, however, I am well aware that solely judging by what I have read is narrow-minded and inherently flawed and in the end it doesn't matter. Yes, what matters is what I get out of the lessons and practice and add to my cognition of reality.
Ignore my initial question and forgive me if it sounded juvenile. I already believe I know the answer anyhow.
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Guy_51
USA
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Posted - Feb 24 2007 : 11:22:19 PM
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Mattimo:
The lessons are already working. Your truth and insights are their own reward. Welcome to AYP.
Warmest regards:
Guy
PS: like Ether said: it's not important what He can do, it's only important what you can do. A sincere Yo for you on your path. We all have lots of questions which is ok, but the real important stuff is to maintain your twice daily practice. tosabe? |
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