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Anthem
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 Posted - Feb 20 2007 : 12:27:52 AM
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Sharing some perspectives.
Our minds are one.
The thought you have, your neighbor has acted on and another has suffered from. It can be just a thought here in your mind and the same thought can generate an emotion in your friend, an action in another person and a series of actions, emotions and thoughts in yet another person. The way the thought manifests depends on how the energy flows through/ around the multitude of obstacles blocking the flow of life-energy in our bodies and mind.
How can we judge another person when we have thought, felt, done the same things at some point in our lives/ existence? We are all manifestations of the universal consciousness experiencing life here on earth in a multitude of forms. What's it like to be smart, slow, hungry, happy, sad, etc. In living it, it is known. Can we judge experience, doesn't all experience lead us back to ourselves in the end? Isn't this the great gift of suffering, that the pain will lead us back home to our true nature?
Suffering ends when we embrace and flow with what is. Be here and now, be tired of thinking and deliberating, rest in just being and find peace.
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Kirtanman
USA
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Posted - Feb 20 2007 : 01:46:53 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Anthem11
Sharing some perspectives.
Our minds are one.
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Suffering ends when we embrace and flow with what is. Be here and now, be tired of thinking and deliberating, rest in just being and find peace.
Um ... er ... well ... mm .... this isn't phrasing I commonly use, but it's kinda sorta completely what fits:
AMEN, BROTHER!!
Wow.
... and, "indeed" (that's the way it is).
We have all this illusion / misconception surrounding our "personal" thoughts and lives ... when none of it is personal .... "personal" is just another conception.
Thought arises / thoughts arise -- impersonally.
The apparently external form may differ (anger arising through one form may cause one person to not speak to another, anger arising through another may cause a fatal shooting, and anger arising through yet another may cause a declaration of war - but the seed - the anger - may be quite nearly identical).
Especially if we are "graced" with the ability to open our hearts and minds just a little (practices tend to help ....  ) -- we begin to experience this dynamic that you posted about -- and begin to experience that "one mind" is far more than just a poetic concept.
On this side of things (the physical, "molasses-y" side - seemingly slow time, seemingly sorta-rigid matter, etc.) - the One can so easily look like many ...
Yet (as you eloquently, and in my experience, truthfully, stated) - it's like light shining through a prism ....
"Light is red!" says one person.
"No, it's obviously green, you infidel!" says another.
When, in reality - the One light is just shining ... and the apparent filters create the illusion of apparent distinction.
Powerful post, Anthem -- Thank You!
Peace & Namaste,
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Richard
United Kingdom
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Posted - Feb 20 2007 : 07:29:27 AM
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Great post Anthem, It made me sit up and think. 
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The thought you have, your neighbor has acted on and another has suffered from. It can be just a thought here in your mind and the same thought can generate an emotion in your friend, an action in another person and a series of actions, emotions and thoughts in yet another person. The way the thought manifests depends on how the energy flows through/ around the multitude of obstacles blocking the flow of life-energy in our bodies and mind.
YES YES
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Suffering ends when we embrace and flow with what is. Be here and now, be tired of thinking and deliberating, rest in just being and find peace.
So simple,
So true,
but so hard to do consciously..more of a natural process brought about by deep meditation I think.
I AM
Richard
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Balance
USA
967 Posts |
Posted - Feb 20 2007 : 11:32:18 AM
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"One who has attained to the position of unstinted emancipation can never be disliked by others, for the people themselves are the very Self-luminous soul though ignorant of the fact."
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Anthem
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Posted - Feb 21 2007 : 12:13:09 AM
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Thank you Kirtanman, Richard and Alan for the positive replies and for making the ideas even more clear!
A
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Katrine
Norway
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Posted - Feb 21 2007 : 11:21:01 AM
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Hi All
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How can we judge another person when we have thought, felt, done the same things at some point in our lives/ existence?
And why do we judge ourselves accordingly?
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Can we judge experience, doesn't all experience lead us back to ourselves in the end?
Actually.....it is the very experiencing that seemingly leads us away from ourselves. Attention fixed on what changes. Interest in what changes. "Outside" or "inside". Identifying whith objects. Yet we do it because we are all the time searching for what is. Longing for our very own Being. The scale tips when we - often through pain, as you point out, Andrew - become more interested in what does not change. Thus is revealed the source we are - and always was and always will be.
Andrew - thank you.
It is a wise reminder to not be so concerned about "others". How "others" are "doing". I am. Stay here. Be. First know I am
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Anthem
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Posted - Feb 22 2007 : 12:43:44 PM
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Hi Katrine,
Thanks for your comments and clarifications, always appreciated.
A
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