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846 From: "Danny" <danny@metalhosts.com>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:18am
Subject: Inner eyes mysticaldan
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Namaste All,

I am again at a crossroad where I need some help.

You guys are all great here but i need some help on the technique.

I am bad at visualisation and at sensations also i guess.

How do u start to look up from the perinieum up the spine? Do u feel urself
climbing up the spine. I cant feel my perineium? So if i need to visualise
what do i do?

I am sure all of u have ur method of visualising or feeling. I would like to
know how? Also can this visualisation be done just sitting at the office?

Om Tat Sat
Dan



848 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:01am
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Danny" <danny@m...> wrote:
>
> Namaste All,
>
> > I am sure all of u have ur method of visualising or feeling. I
would like to
> know how? Also can this visualisation be done just sitting at the
office?
>
> Om Tat Sat
> Dan

Hello Dan

I think you are probably trying too hard. Visualisation isn't that
important, just imagine your breath is running up and down your spine
the sensations will come on their own in time and then it will be
easy.

Yes you can do it anywhere but on your own in your private place is
best.

Blessings R.C.



849 From: "Adam West" <adamwest1@iprimus.com.au>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:57am
Subject: Re: Re: Inner eyes fraterandros1
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Hi all,

I would second this! I would add that if you can day dream and fantasize, if you can imagine, you can visualize. Secondly, if you are having trouble with visual imagery, try using 'feeling'. Feel 'Cold' energy going up the spine, and Warm energy coming down the spine (both is even more effective, live it as real and as intense as possible, while remaining relaxed mentally and physically. Be so absorbed that you loose awareness of all else, just you and the energy will bring best rests. That is a natural advanced state, though in truth, intent is enough for results in the beginning).

In many respects from my experience, feeling works better than 'Seeing'/Visualizing. Practice and experimentation is appropriate, I guarentee you will get there in the end :-)

In kind regards,

Adam.


> Namaste All,
>
> > I am sure all of u have ur method of visualising or feeling. I
would like to
> know how? Also can this visualisation be done just sitting at the
office?
>
> Om Tat Sat
> Dan

Hello Dan

I think you are probably trying too hard. Visualisation isn't that
important, just imagine your breath is running up and down your spine
the sensations will come on their own in time and then it will be
easy.

Yes you can do it anywhere but on your own in your private place is
best.

Blessings R.C.









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854 From: "obsidian9999" <obsidian9999@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:03pm
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I was going to say *exactly* the same thing as Adam --- 'feeling' works better for me
than 'visualising'.

I have also used sandalwood oil to stimulate the feeling in the perineum --- the Vick's Vaporub should do exactly the same thing and be easier to get your hands on.

Dan,
If you cannot feel your perineum, can you *imagine* yourself feeling it?



--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Adam West" <adamwest1@i...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I would second this! I would add that if you can day dream and fantasize,
if you can imagine, you can visualize. Secondly, if you are having trouble with
visual imagery, try using 'feeling'. Feel 'Cold' energy going up the spine, and
Warm energy coming down the spine (both is even more effective, live it as
real and as intense as possible, while remaining relaxed mentally and
physically. Be so absorbed that you loose awareness of all else, just you and
the energy will bring best rests. That is a natural advanced state, though in
truth, intent is enough for results in the beginning).
>
> In many respects from my experience, feeling works better than 'Seeing'/
Visualizing. Practice and experimentation is appropriate, I guarentee you will
get there in the end :-)
>
> In kind regards,
>
> Adam.
>
>
> > Namaste All,
> >
> > > I am sure all of u have ur method of visualising or feeling. I
> would like to
> > know how? Also can this visualisation be done just sitting at the
> office?
> >
> > Om Tat Sat
> > Dan
>
> Hello Dan
>
> I think you are probably trying too hard. Visualisation isn't that
> important, just imagine your breath is running up and down your spine
> the sensations will come on their own in time and then it will be
> easy.
>
> Yes you can do it anywhere but on your own in your private place is
> best.
>
> Blessings R.C.
>
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852 From: Isolde Manasa <babalon_v@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 0:51pm
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A good way to give yourself a feeling in your perineum
is to give it a small dab of Vicks Vaporub! That way,
you will be able to feel it fer shure! I emphasize
SMALL..you just want to create a sensation there, not
make yourself extremely uncomfortable! Barely touching
the tip of your finger to the surface of the stuff
should be plenty. You could use Tabasco too, if you
want a hot instead of cold sensation, but again, use
just the tiniest amount! This reminds me of a story
about Ramakrishna Paramahansa, who was having trouble
concentrating on his Ajna, and his teacher, Totapuri,
jammed a sharp piece of glass into his forehead
between his brows and thundered, "Concentrate the mind
on this point!" Ramakrishna then sat down with renewed
determination and achieved very rapidly after that!
You might also want to put some Vicks on your
forehead as well, to avoid over-concentration on your
Muladhara. I find movie images I have seen make
excellent visualization aids...for instance, the scene
at the end of "I, Robot", a giant column of glowing
white, was a useful image to give the mind.
Unfortunately, most people's imaginations are so
crippled by TV that they have virtually lost the
capacity to come up with their own images.
Lilith M.
--- Danny <danny@metalhosts.com> wrote:
>
>
> Namaste All,
>
> I am again at a crossroad where I need some help.
>
> You guys are all great here but i need some help on
> the technique.
>
> I am bad at visualisation and at sensations also i
> guess.
>
> How do u start to look up from the perinieum up the
> spine? Do u feel urself
> climbing up the spine. I cant feel my perineium? So
> if i need to visualise
> what do i do?
>
> I am sure all of u have ur method of visualising or
> feeling. I would like to
> know how? Also can this visualisation be done just
> sitting at the office?
>
> Om Tat Sat
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
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853 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:10pm
Subject: Re: Inner eyes azaz932001
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--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Isolde Manasa <babalon_v@y...> wrote:
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> A good way to give yourself a feeling in your perineum
> is to give it a small dab of Vicks Vaporub! That way,
> you will be able to feel it fer shure!

Oh yes I love that I'm sure that would do the trick, good thinking it's
a wonder no one else has come up with it.

Blessings R.C.



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