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Lili
Netherlands
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 Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 07:29:36 AM
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Hi,
I had a weird incident just now. I went to have lunch with colleagues at a canteen. In the moment when I reached to get my plate above the glass counter the entire glass counter broke into small pieces on its own without anyone touching it. It litterally exploaded sending glass flying around in all directions. I am not saying it is related to the yoga but it is just weird. |
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Katrine
Norway
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Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 07:39:26 AM
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Hi Lili
When the glass broke - in that instant - in that shock:
What was in your awareness? |
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Scott
USA
969 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 08:51:46 AM
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| Good to hear that you are still safe, Lili. Exploding glass can be deadly. |
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Lili
Netherlands
372 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:01:42 AM
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Originally posted by Katrine
Hi Lili
When the glass broke - in that instant - in that shock:
What was in your awareness?
Hi Katrine,
I can't recall the exact moment but I think I was either not thinking at all or thinking about pretty mundane things nothing really special. However it was really strange the whole sound of this big thing that blew up in the middle of a boring office lunch the pieces everywhere this is what I recall. |
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Lili
Netherlands
372 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:05:08 AM
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Originally posted by Scott
Good to hear that you are still safe, Lili. Exploding glass can be deadly.
Thanks Scott. Yes there must be a physics-based reason for such things happening eventhough this glass was not under pressure and noone touched it. I was lucky none of the pieces that flew off hit my eyes or something because this would be horrible. I was standing right next to it with both hands and the plate above this thing. |
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Katrine
Norway
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Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:22:32 AM
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However it was really strange the whole sound of this big thing that blew up in the middle of a boring office lunch the pieces everywhere
So in that instant "the boring lunch" was replaced by "no words" after the explosion
It left an impression on you, Lilly - you had a taste of Now right then. That's probably why you write us about it......something happened that your mind cannot grasp. But you grasped it. |
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Kyman
530 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:27:27 AM
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I heard david wolf talk about randomness. Supposedly, there have been tests done which can demonstrate that there is no such thing as random.
You see that movie "The Cooler"? In this movie there is a guy called a cooler who goes to places in any casino to jinx the hot action. Just his presence is enough to mess up anyone's luck.
The message behind that is consciousness is always affecting something.
I'm sure the glass would've broke if someone else approached it, but maybe not everyone.
No matter what, like said above, physics should be able to explain it. |
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Lili
Netherlands
372 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:29:15 AM
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Very well put about the boring lunch and the no words
No initially I thought it might have a connection with yoga but now I think it is more of a coincidence with scientific explanation and I should not be bothering you with this.
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Edited by - Lili on Aug 15 2006 09:29:48 AM |
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Kyman
530 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:43:43 AM
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We're not bothered, Lili.
Some feel that coincidence is an illusion, or was that illusion was a coincidence, I can't remember the movie! |
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Lili
Netherlands
372 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 09:52:50 AM
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| Yes but I think I fell into the trap of linking everything that happens to the yoga practice. For instance a few months ago I forgot my travel pass at home and happened to be on a tram where 2 ticket controllers were checking people's tickets. It happened that both of them found one passanger without a ticket each and got off before checking me which is very unlikely event. I thought this one was related to the yoga and so on and so on but I don't think I should be flooding the forum with these things which are neither practices nor a big deal. Conclusion for me: think before starting a new topic |
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david_obsidian
USA
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Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 10:23:53 AM
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Lili,
I think one thing is relevant -- that Yoga does often seem to stimulate belief in magical explanations. In some cases, it is just a phase a person goes through. Sometimes, they never get out of it.
The phenomenon you have experienced is a phenomenon well-known to glass-blowers and many physicists. The glass wasn't manufactured properly; it was cooled too quickly from the molten state.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 10:37:47 AM
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I agree Lili, I don't think this had anything to do with Yoga.. however for the brief moment your heart stopped.. did it not? That brief shock that the heart got is what made you write this. I cannot explain it really.. but I know what everyone here is trying to say and what you were trying to say.. but sometimes it's hard to find the words.
I was driving a few months back.. on my way back home from work.. it was a red light and on the lane next to me, there was two cars.. another car came from behind and was in full speed.. and it hit this car next to me so hard. I have never seen a accident happen.. my heart just stopped.. it was so scary. I remember the guy in the car that got hit had a red t-shirt and I can see the look on his face.. it was so quick but bam.. so hard.. and yet it happened like in slow motion.. I remember how it shook my heart... just the shock.. still gives me the shivers..
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Alvin Chan
Hong Kong
407 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 10:39:29 AM
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Hi Lili,
By all means start a topic when you observe something that you think is abnormal and may have something to do with yoga. EVen a skeptic like me would be interested and open to anything weird, though I may not believe it fully all the time
But at the same time your preference to scientific explanations, when there are some, safe me from being irritable. .....I'm somehow joking, though I do sometimes feel compulsive to give a scientific explanation to something that looks extraordinary and/or to point out how careless some conclusions are...... well, a reaction that is irrational enough since it never do me any good  |
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Katrine
Norway
1813 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 11:22:12 AM
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I am not discussing whether what happened was a coincidence or not - I am simply saying that what happened was....crash/bang.....and then :
SILENCE.
Silence is yoga.
One.
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Yoda
USA
284 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 12:35:09 PM
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Alvin Chan
Hong Kong
407 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 12:59:54 PM
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I am simply saying that what happened was....crash/bang.....and then :
SILENCE.
If that happened on me, my heart would be bumping hard that it's hardly silence, even though my mouth would certainly shut for a while!
Lili, did you count how many pieces it broke into? I'm not familiar with the phenomenon, so I can only rely on thought experiments. (which could very well be wrong): after an initial crack the great tension should get a big relief so not too many pieces should be found--unless the type of glass is super-brittle and have not the least of extendability and the tension is really huge.
May I also know the brand of the glasses so that we won't buy it in the future? Hope it's not rude to you |
Edited by - Alvin Chan on Aug 15 2006 1:23:55 PM |
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david_obsidian
USA
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Kyman
530 Posts |
Posted - Aug 15 2006 : 11:20:02 PM
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| For future reference, lili, feel free to ask such questions. |
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Alvin Chan
Hong Kong
407 Posts |
Posted - Aug 16 2006 : 10:17:37 AM
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| Thanks David, very interesting. |
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sadhak
India
604 Posts |
Posted - Aug 16 2006 : 11:44:15 AM
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Hi Lili,
Not here, but I have been in very intense discussions where glass shattering with or without reason, being saved by the skin of teeth in an accident, etc. happened to a number of practitioners very, very often. There was a link to yoga ... glass breaking was related to some negative energy directed at you taken by the glass, and being saved in an accident was also the positive result of your practices giving you 'protection'. Of course this is debatable... I was sceptical till two practitioners, one my husband, were so miraculously saved in a common attack by thugs, that only a hardened sceptic would doubt divine intervention. I do believe that practitioners are 'protected' in some manner. Look at your glass... it went flying in all directions... must've been difficult to miss you. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Aug 16 2006 : 10:47:18 PM
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I think such things are not necessarily related to yoga, but to life in general. Of course you could find a scientific reason. If it broke in a million pieces (mostly little square ones) it was probably tempered glass, made to be safer when it breaks. If a little part of it was hot and a cold water drop hit it, it could cause it to break.
Splash a little cold water on a hot light bulb and they shatter.
But i digress. The scientific reasons are beside the point. like Katrine says, if instead you look at what's going on in your mind when synchronicities happen, you get more relevent information for yourself.
It's not that something you did made the glass break; it's where you were in your consciousness when the glass broke
that is important. These things serve to remind us that we are connected to what happens around us, even though "scientifically" we seem to not be. But don't obsess with it as that takes you out of the moment. Just watch. |
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Alvin Chan
Hong Kong
407 Posts |
Posted - Aug 17 2006 : 12:00:00 PM
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But i digress. The scientific reasons are beside the point. like Katrine says, if instead you look at what's going on in your mind when synchronicities happen, you get more relevent information for yourself.
No contradiction here. You get more relevant information about yourself by looking at what's in your mind when the glass breaks; and someone else get more relevant information about the world and the interrelations about things and events by looking and examining at the possible causes systematically and analytically.
You don't get much info about yourself by analyzing; and similarly you won't learn much(if any) about this physical world by looking inside.
Hope one day, the people from the two streams will understand the differences both in objectives and methods, and will start to understand more about themselves and the outside world. |
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Katrine
Norway
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Posted - Aug 17 2006 : 3:26:23 PM
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Hi all
Alvin wrote:
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No contradiction here. You get more relevant information about yourself by looking at what's in your mind when the glass breaks; and someone else get more relevant information about the world and the interrelations about things and events by looking and examining at the possible causes systematically and analytically
Actually; I am not discussing what is going on in the mind when the glass breaks. I am suggesting that being thrown into the now like Lili experienced, might bring you in touch with Silence/Consciousness/Emptiness - the source of mind. You are no-thing/no-body in that instant - any mental activity has been stilled for a split second. That glimpse; that gap; can be recognized. Not by the mind (it contains the mind) - but by itself. And you are that.
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Hope one day, the people from the two streams will understand the differences both in objectives and methods, and will start to understand more about themselves and the outside world.
I agree, Alvin. When mind sets out to understand, different methods and objevtives are needed. However - the source of the mind is the source of the world also. One source seeing itself everywhere. It is understanding itself. |
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Alvin Chan
Hong Kong
407 Posts |
Posted - Aug 17 2006 : 8:07:22 PM
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| I see you what, Katrine. Here's a way to systematically create that silence then: intentionally switch the glasses of your family members/close friends with a unannealed glass. Then it is a systematic way of inducing that kind of stillness in them, though with no guarantee that they will appreciate |
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Katrine
Norway
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Posted - Sep 05 2006 : 3:40:09 PM
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I see you what, Katrine. Here's a way to systematically create that silence then: intentionally switch the glasses of your family members/close friends with a unannealed glass. Then it is a systematic way of inducing that kind of stillness in them, though with no guarantee that they will appreciate
Well...
Alvin:
Silence need not (and cannot) be created by you or me. Silence already is. You and I (our personalities) do not have the power to induce stillness in anyone. In fact - that very intention casts you straight out of silence - it is effort/doing. Only silence can resonate with silence. In other words: when i am silent and you are silent (and I mean totally silent, whether we hear,think, feel or see anything or not) - we are totally synchronised with Being. One silence. Only the spontanious action of being can bring you in touch with itself. |
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Breaking glass ;)
