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Ananda
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 Posted - Jul 30 2013 : 01:23:03 AM
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There is a difference between being spiritually evolved and being fully human. I would just like to say that I am not responsible for any act done by teachers or disciples whom I've introduced to each other. Or for the people who contact certain teachers because of my posts. I have failed to find a perfect teacher so far... from the ones living yogani is number 1 and from the ones not in the body "jesus 1st, ramana 2nd."
This lesson explains it best:
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Namath
350 Posts |
Posted - Jul 30 2013 : 11:01:37 AM
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Hi Ananda,
there's no teacher and disciple...Each receives what is most ordained by Allah suitable for his/her spiritual development.
I shall Thank you for recommending Ramanaya in the first place.He played the role of my father and his family are my family till now.
I shall Thank you for Yacin  ...words can't express how much love and gratitude I have to know him . For me, he's the full human and spirituality evolved being that I aim to be!...yet sooo humble. I simply love him.
I shall Thank you for AYP..Shanti,Chas & All!It was tough lessons for me ...yet very grateful for each lesson.Especially the last one from Jeff before I move to yacin.It opened my eyes to a dark attribute within me I weren't aware of...A lesson for Life :) thank you Jeff.
Remember this!
"And (remember) when Musa (Moses) asked for water for his people, We said: "Strike the stone with your stick." Then gushed forth therefrom twelve springs. Each (group of) people knew its own place for water. "Eat and drink of that which Allah has provided and do not act corruptly, making mischief on the earth."~ Quran
Allah lights people's hearts to the path they are meant to take...Lesson learnt/ unlearnt...move on!
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 30 2013 : 1:11:01 PM
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Dear Namat, you are welcome...
This was the aim from the first place... Finding teachings or guides who could help me and help others find their peace... I am grateful to all my teachers but I don't take responsibility for their acts... They are human in the end and so am I.
I needed to post this topic in order to relieve myself of that responsibility. As you said, it's Allah's light in the end. And it is thus that I now view my relation with my teachers. As Shantiji once said: "Fall in love with the gift, and not the gift box."
If you want an example of a perfect enlightened/human being; This is one of the best IMHO:
"Yesterday, I used to deny my friend if his religion wasn't as mine.
But today; My heart has become capable of every form: it is a pasture for gazelles and flowers...
A convent for Christian monks,
And a temple for idols, and the pilgrim's Ka'ba, and the tables of the Tora and the book of the Koran.
I follow the religion of Love, whichever way his ships take me."
Ibn Arabi
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 30 2013 : 3:53:31 PM
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By the way, I don't take responsibility for pointing out Ibn Arabi either 
By saying he is perfect... Maybe this is my version of a perfection human being... An all loving heart... But who knows, I might be wrong or living in my own illusions about how things should or shouldn't be... All I know is that to Allah there are many doors... As many as their are beings in existence...
Much love to all |
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Namath
350 Posts |
Posted - Jul 30 2013 : 11:05:37 PM
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True.
It's clear now that the issue is not in the religion or the teacher...It's a matter of purity of heart.That's why it's been said in the holy Quran about the Quran "Only to be touched by the pure"...& only to be interpreted by those who are established in Knowledge....Someone sinking in Nafes "Ego" can never be touched by the light of Quran.
The same applies to all religions...Allah's light come in many forms.There is nothing wrong with them...It's the darkness within that makes someone thinks otherwise & it's the darkness within that makes someone not practice properly & thus becomes extremist....
Before I was always skeptical about the ritual practices of Islam (Praying,fasting...).Did it for sometime out of longing to Allah...only for my mind to object later on.
With Yacin now,I do it for Love & out of trust in his guidance.Fasting has never been more enjoyable & praying is something I look for five times a day.
What i read for Ibn Arabi is his interpretation of the Holy Quran.It's very good.But I have Sidi Yacin,I don't need Ibn Arabi.
Salam
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 12:12:38 AM
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| Yacin is a great guide No one said you shouldn't follow him or any other to your own liking. This topic is about me letting go of responsibility towards others. The translation work and the topics I write... I do that out of love... What the reader does with the knowledge I share... That's his or her responsibility. Salam |
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Namath
350 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 05:35:26 AM
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I know Ananda .
I just said what I felt like saying.
Salam |
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jeff
USA
971 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 08:58:35 AM
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From chapter 79 of the Tao Te Ching,,,
When men lack honesty and trust, quarrels will occur.
When they occur some resentment and bad feeling remains.
The answer lies in people's hearts.
Know your part and keep your word, then all will be well.
The Sage keeps his word and knows his part,
but does not expect others to fulfil their half.
With virtue a man performs his deed,
but a man without virtue is rigid in his desire for others to act.
Go with the flow and fulfil your part.
Best wishes,
Jeff |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 10:11:37 AM
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Dear Jeff,
Even with Jesus, Muhammad, Ramana, Amma and many other holy men and women quarrels did occur... This stuff happens with everyone... Best wishes for you to... Salam |
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jeff
USA
971 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 10:36:05 AM
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Dear Ananda,
The words above are not about quarreling, they are about the Sage (and virtue). My apologies if you do not think that the words fit with your thread.
Peace,
Jeff |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 10:54:18 AM
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| The second part does... Dear brother, my own experience is what made me post this topic... |
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Bodhi Tree
2972 Posts |
Posted - Jul 31 2013 : 12:17:36 PM
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| One day we will all get along. Why? Because the satisfaction of being unlimited, and of even having had some taste of that limitlessness, will allow us to let go of the fear and attachment of losing or being deprived. How can we be deprived if each of us is a microcosm of the universe? If I can see myself everywhere, then I am never lacking. Such is my quest. I gladly take up the gift of life so I can give it away in return. It's not a bad deal. |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Aug 01 2013 : 04:35:35 AM
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Namath
350 Posts |
Posted - Aug 01 2013 : 08:55:56 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Ananda
Dear Jeff,
Even with Jesus, Muhammad, Ramana, Amma and many other holy men and women quarrels did occur... This stuff happens with everyone... Best wishes for you to... Salam
Ananda!
Sri Ganesan words just rang in my heart...when you quarrel you're moving away from God.
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_shakti_
Canada
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Posted - Aug 24 2013 : 12:35:45 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Bodhi Tree
One day we will all get along. Why? Because the satisfaction of being unlimited, and of even having had some taste of that limitlessness, will allow us to let go of the fear and attachment of losing or being deprived. How can we be deprived if each of us is a microcosm of the universe? If I can see myself everywhere, then I am never lacking. Such is my quest. I gladly take up the gift of life so I can give it away in return. It's not a bad deal.
Beautiful :) |
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