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SeySorciere
Seychelles
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 Posted - Jan 03 2013 : 04:11:48 AM
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On New Year's Day, I heard for the first time of someone who is assumed to have died whilst out of the body. I mean the physical body died (obviously  ). This story was told to me by someone who is not into Yoga nor Astral Travel or anything like that. Upon hearing that I meditate, he told me the story of his cousin who died apparently when out of body. They found his body two days after death in bed in a pose as if warding off something. So he believes his cousin left his body and did not /could not come back.
Just a curiosity, I thought I'd share.
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jan 03 2013 : 10:54:49 AM
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| There is no reason to believe he was out of his body at the time of death. |
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AumNaturel
Canada
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Posted - Jan 03 2013 : 11:38:07 AM
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| Sad to hear he died of unknown causes. I agree with the point made by Etherfish. I don't believe assuming a posture in bed has anything to do with truly going out of body as in near death experience cases. That would by definition fall well beyond natural sleep paralysis stage, including the presence of much nervous system activity (or none, as in NDEs), capable of initiating anything, least of all coherent muscle activity. The other factor making this even more extremely unlikely is finding someone who has such abilities without knowing about them in the first place. For those very few who truly do, they know all too well what they are doing to be bothered by our petty speculations and superstitions. |
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SeySorciere
Seychelles
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Posted - Jan 04 2013 : 02:02:12 AM
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You are right. There is no conclusive evidence in this story. However, the man was into astral traveling - that's how the cousin knew about him going out of body and deduced that he had not come back. I was not too convinced myself.
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AumNaturel
Canada
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Posted - Jan 04 2013 : 03:59:35 AM
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Robert Monroe was one of the few who apparently could go all the way to what he called the point of no return (focus 28) where his body would feel very cold when coming back. I'm not sure if he ever did this experiment while being monitored. The rest of his journeys did read more like a blend of remote viewing combined with lucid dreaming, both of which happen under normal circumstances of sleep, and therefore no more dangerous than ordinary sleeping states. I say this based on my own limited experience (that almost anyone can replicate themselves), and by the descriptions of his journeys. What is certain is he did have unusual abilities to induce that state, and he did report siddhis (levitation during an accident) and other paranormal experiences (one involving multiple car batteries draining or something). He also attributed his abilities to having been a yogi in his past life.
Nowadays probably a lot of people are into exploring such altered states during sleep, or intend to do so on a regular basis, so it isn't such an outstanding thing anymore.
Thanks for sharing! |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jan 04 2013 : 07:38:05 AM
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| I used to be into astral travel, and found that it was easier when my body was cold, like in a very cold room without a jacket. |
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SeySorciere
Seychelles
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Posted - Jan 07 2013 : 12:43:26 AM
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I have experienced astral travel only once but have been out of the body several times. It is always a joyous experience for me and return has never been a problem.
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Etherfish
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Posted - Jan 07 2013 : 08:46:51 AM
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| Yes, staying out there is the hard part not returning, for me. I was always pulled back to the body upon losing consciousness in the astral, or just suddenly for no apparent reason. |
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