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astralprojectee
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 Posted - Sep 17 2012 : 02:35:20 AM
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Hi you all. I thought Kum Nye and Tantra had some things in common. So I checked this aypsite to find that nobody here has mentioned Kum Nye.
You can learn about it here some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kum_Nye
Anyway it seems that Kum Nye is very much about opening, balancing, awakening, invigorating, the senses, and feelings. The main guy that teaches Kum Nye is Tarthang Tulku. If I remember correctly he is an enlightened man. He has written many books. Of which some are a real philosophical feast. And he really really gets into the nature of reality itself. Tarthang Tulku is always so poetic in the way he writes. Let me give you all a preview here.
http://www.amazon.com/Kum-Nye-Tibet...p/0898004217
Here is a excerpt from Kum Nye - Tibetan Yoga by Tarthang Tulku
"The Inner and Outer Massage of Feeling
Through relaxation we discover a whole new way of being.
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"In early childhood, when our senses were more open,
we may have experienced a greater sense of union with
the universe, but as we grow, we learn to foster our personalities
too intensely, deepening feelings of separation
rather than the feelings of warmth and security our hearts
desire. The pressures and complications of modern society
make it difficult to do otherwise, for to be successful in
business, in friendship, even in play, we are almost forced
into competitive and stressful situations which develop
feelings of alienation and anxiety. All our major undertakings,
including school, raising a family, and becoming
established in a career, involve complications and limitations
we cannot seem to avoid."
"Even when we try to open our lives, we may end up
contracting our experience rather than expanding it. Our
mental and physical activities seldom succeed in truly
satisfying us, because we do not integrate the two. Not
realizing the importance of integrating body and mind in
all our activities, we emphasize mental achievement at the
expense of feeling, or our physical body at the expense of
the rich sensations within.
When we restrict our feelings and sensations, we prevent
them from giving us the sustenance we need to be
healthy and happy. Our senses may react to this constriction
and subtly urge us to open, but our 'rational' mind
is in control of delicate sense impressions, and so we
may not even hear their plea. Hungry for fulfillment, we
begin to search outside ourselves, often racing restlessly
from one source of enjoyment to another, as if there were
a limited supply. We are captivated by the idea that satisfaction
is 'out there'... only we look, work, or play hard
enough. We are drawn to exciting activities which seem to
stimulate our minds and senses, but leave us still wanting
more. The faster we run, the further we move away from
true satisfaction, which remains within, behind the door
of the senses............................................ ............."
"In Kum Nye there are various ways, including both
stillness and movement, to stimulate the flow of feeling
and energy that integrates body and mind. We begin by
developing stillness of body, breath, and mind. Simply
sitting still and relaxing gives us a chance to appreciate feelings
of which we are normally unaware. Relaxation is then
subtly aided by breathing through both nose and mouth,
so gently and evenly that we are hardly conscious of inhaling
and exhaling at all; a way of breathing which allows us
to contact the positive vitality of the throat center.
As the breath becomes calm and quiet, fewer distracting
thoughts and images run through the mind, and the
whole body comes alive. Our mental and bodily energies
become refreshed and tranquil, like a clear forest pool.
We discover a quality of feeling common to body, breath,
and mind—a calm, clear, deepening quality—soothing
and 'massaging' us deep within. As we relax more, the
subtle level of this feeling opens like a lens, letting in more
light' or energy and creating comprehensive and more
illuminating 'pictures' of experience.
To explore the qualities of this relaxation further, we
add self-massage and the 'massage' of movement exercise
to sitting and breathing. Usually we think of massage as
something done for us, but the body can massage itself.
Massage can involve our feelings and sensations and our
whole inner structure, as well as our outer shape and form.
During massage, subtle feeling-tones or energies permeate
and soothe our whole being, integrating the mental
and the physical, relating feeling to form. These energies
are like a vibrating, moving aura which runs through us
and outward from us, and also surrounds us. We can learn
to heal ourselves inwardly with these energies, and direct
them to flow outwardly, harmonizing all aspects of our
being. We can generate an inner sun, radiating feelings
that warm us and pervade everything around us.
While at first we stimulate the massage physically—by
breathing, pressing and rubbing our bodies, moving very
slowly in certain ways, or producing and releasing tension—
later we can initiate massage through feeling-tones
alone. As relaxation deepens, we begin to feel directly the
interconnections among breath, senses, body, and mind.
The senses open new channels and dimensions of sensation,
releasing joyful feelings that expand and accumulate
until we are aware of nothing else in the world. Every cell
becomes suffused and saturated with positive feelings of
wholeness and completion. Even between the muscles
and tissues we drink in these wonderful feelings.
When we truly use our senses, every part of the body
becomes alive and healthy—mentally and emotionally
we become fully awake. We discover we can experience
ecstatic beauty at every moment, as if we were always
hearing beautiful music or seeing the finest works of
art. We are even capable of healing ourselves, for this
relaxation quickens a feeling-tone that itself becomes a
self-generating massage, a system of self-nurturance that
expands and develops. This is the massage of Kum Nye.
The deeper and richer our experience of this selfoperating
massage is, the more we will find that it simply
can occur naturally, vitalizing every sense, feeling, and
activity of daily life. Expanding in space and time, subtle
feeling-tones or energies activate massage outside as well
as inside our bodies, harmonizing surrounding levels of
existence. Feelings of love or the joy of laughter expand
beyond the body, floating through space and time like
softly falling snow. The senses expand in a subtle way,
increasing enjoyment.
When seeing, we lightly concentrate on an object so
that we sense a feeling from its form. By opening our eyes
in this way, we invite an ecstatic interaction between subtle
'inner' and 'outer' energies. Seeing then becomes vision, a
constant expression of a vital totality.
Food becomes an offering to the senses. When we
learn to enjoy all the feeling-tones of tasting, distributing
them throughout the body and beyond it, eating is truly a
meeting of the senses with their object, a ceremonial act
of appreciation.
We learn to contact and appreciate sound as well, feeling
it fully in our bodies, using it to stimulate harmonious
interactions between ourselves and the surrounding universe.
As we allow soft music to relax and soothe us when
we are tired, we activate feelings which can even heal us.
When we speak, each sound is gentle, so there is no shocking
or destructive quality to our communication........................."
"By breathing more subtly, we feel even more; a quality
of softness intermixes with the warmth. Our bodies
become light and still. Within the body and beyond it,
subtle energies nourish feelings of satisfaction and harmony.
We become integrated with these feelings, we are
inseparable from them. Our awareness expands, relating
many thoughts and feelings simultaneously and extending
(heir duration. We discover the joy of exercising without
effort. We live within a sense of freedom, a vital totality,
a feeling which constantly accumulates. Life becomes a
joyful flow in the universe: every cell, every sense, every
part of consciousness past or future participates in this
(low. In this way, we learn to live cheerfully. We will even
live longer, for our lives are healthy and balanced.
As soon as the body and the breath are sufficiently
calm and relaxed, immediately, almost magically, the
joyful feeling arises. This is the feeling to expand and
accumulate; this is the cream of Kum Nye, the essence. We
can stir it so that it becomes richer and deeper, thick and
vast. It can become so great it is almost everlasting, and we
need never lose it. Its texture is creamy; its very essence,
nectar. We can accumulate it and distribute it through
the senses, between the skin and muscles, into every part
of the body. By this kind of relaxation, we can heal even
our grasping, shadow side, the unbalanced side that acts
against us. The soothing quality of this feeling can heal
thoughts, feelings, concepts, and images, embracing them
so there is no longer any negative quality.
When we tap and cultivate the source of relaxation
and healing energy within our sensations and feelings, we
are doing Kum Nye. Kum means body, existence, how to
become embodied. Nye means massage or interaction. In
Tibetan, lu means our ordinary body; ku a higher, more
subtle body. In Kum Nye, we activate the ku, stimulating
feeling, which is nye."
Correct me if I am wrong but this sounds a lot like Tantra? I have been doing some Kum Nye and I find it has some benefits that other meditations can't give me. It seems to be more grounding some some ways. Let me know what you all think so far. Or if you have or havn't heard of Kum Nye before now.
Thanks, Peace. |
Edited by - AYPforum on Sep 17 2012 06:55:16 AM |
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astralprojectee
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Posted - Sep 17 2012 : 7:37:10 PM
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| Nobody has anything to say on this? Come on guys you would be better at answering this than me. It's a much needed topic to understand if indeed there is a lot of similarities. If you have questions about Kum Nye I will try to answer them to the best of my ability. |
Edited by - astralprojectee on Sep 17 2012 8:25:15 PM |
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