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chit-ananda51
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 Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 12:32:34 AM
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After DM, I feel my breath almost stops or very slowed down and this eventually creeps outside meditation time too. So when I try to do spinal breathing, I feel like forcing the breath IN and OUT. I don't think that this is the way to go.
Can someone please share your views on this?
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 02:04:48 AM
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| you can rest for few minutes before starting SB |
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SeySorciere
Seychelles
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Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 04:07:50 AM
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The AYP recommended way is to start with SB, then do DM and when breath stops during SB, I simply track prana up and down the spine as if I am still breathing
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chit-ananda51
India
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Posted - Oct 25 2011 : 08:55:46 AM
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Hi Maheswari and SeySorciere
Thank you for the suggestion. |
Edited by - chit-ananda51 on Oct 25 2011 12:50:56 PM |
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eternalson786
India
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Posted - Oct 30 2011 : 10:55:01 AM
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Hello Ananda,, as SeySorciere told the way should be first SB n then DM.
you can see SB as "going there" n DM as "being there" so once you are settling into "being" there "going" again a moment after,, is not recommended..
i hope it helps!! good luck !!
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Oct 31 2011 : 03:25:35 AM
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| Do pranayama first, then meditation. Then after meditation I find that it is important to relax in savasana (corpse pose) for a few minutes just to let everything settle back down to a restful state. Start with active practice )pranayama), then meditation,then finish with rest (savasana) |
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chit-ananda51
India
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Posted - Oct 31 2011 : 12:08:21 PM
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Thanks Victor and eternalson,
I tried that way and it feels good  It's just that at times I feel that the breath gets locked inside with pranayama before DM - sort of good. But this pattern repeated even outside meditation time.
I will report back after 3-4 months (just for record) after adding SBP before DM. |
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chit-ananda51
India
127 Posts |
Posted - Dec 06 2011 : 12:10:21 PM
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Hi all
Thought of recording my update (just for record)
I slowly integrated SBP before DM and energy imbalances have smoothed out greatly. I did AYP practices as an addendum to other Yogic practices earlier which stimulated my energy way more than my body could handle. Now that its all behind after a lot of self-pacing for 6-8 months, I am doing only AYP - 10 mins SBP + 15-20 mins DM twice daily.
Interestingly as I come to experience, inner stillness is really pure bliss as Yogani puts it. It contains in itself the seeds of devotion, love, joy and what not
On a side-note, I found that Dynamic jalandara(just rotating head even without breath retention-this occurred instinctively) during SBP improved depth of DM considerably.
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vijikr
United Arab Emirates
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Posted - Dec 09 2011 : 11:45:18 PM
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Great chit ananda!May you be in eternal Bliss..Nithyananada!
Love n Light
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Dec 10 2011 : 3:06:17 PM
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Hi Chitananda,
Just for the record, with AYP spinal breathing, if you are tracing the spinal nerve and your breath suspends, then you remain with your attention at either ajna or root chakra until the breath continues again, depending on whether it was an inhale or an exhale that it suspended on. So if the breath suspends after inhale (antara kumbhaka), you maintain awareness at ajna until the breath goes out again.
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Edited by - Christi on Dec 10 2011 3:10:49 PM |
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emc
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Posted - Dec 10 2011 : 3:12:47 PM
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Good clarification, Christi.
And if you find it to be prevalent also outside practices, beware not to get into overload if you are on the sensitive side.
I had and still have those automatic breath sessations and they are very powerfully drawing up the level of energy, so it's easy to "boil over" after a while if it gets too much.
I will have to, just as you say, force the breathing in and out to stop it when it becomes too intense. Very nice feeling, though... like being a fish under water, not having to breath, just picking up prana anyway and feeling refreshed without air in the lungs. |
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CarsonZi
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chit-ananda51
India
127 Posts |
Posted - Dec 11 2011 : 12:11:01 AM
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Viji : An 8th century Yogi named Thirumoolar said 'May the world attain the bliss which I enjoy'  Wish you the same.
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chit-ananda51
India
127 Posts |
Posted - Dec 11 2011 : 12:36:06 AM
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Christi/CarsonZi
Thank you for pointing out additional lessons and finer points which I overlooked.
Emc/Christi/CarsonZi
My earlier yogic practices caused prana to be either locked up inside(automatic kumbhaka even outside practices) or unleashed more from the pelvic region resulting in heat waves sweeping across body.. it would be pleasurable in a retreat mode however on the run to mill work-setting, it sometimes over-heated my body.
So now that I do AYP, they are moderated. But can someone please clarify what ecstatic conductivity means on a personal note. I have read the lessons where it was contrasted with mental bliss & physical ecstasy.
Thanks so much for all your sharing! |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Dec 11 2011 : 08:08:07 AM
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Hi Chitananda,
Yes, ecstatic conductivity is the ecstasy that is experienced in the body, contrasted in the lessons with the experience of bliss, which has no specific location. Heat can often be experienced as a pre-cursor to ecstasy. So can things such as shaking and tingling sensations. These are all caused by prana moving in the nadis. Good that you are self-pacing to bring things under control.
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chit-ananda51
India
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Posted - Dec 15 2011 : 12:46:46 AM
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| Thanks for the clarification Christi.. :) |
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Suspended breath and pranayama
