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maheswari
Lebanon
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 Posted - Apr 06 2011 : 03:28:32 AM
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| "Swamy:for realization effort is needed ,but grace is also required, and grace is more important.The mind can move towards the Self but it can not reach it.If the devotee is sufficiently advanced the Self will pull the mind completely into the Heart and destroy it.Ramana Maharshi used the analogy of a candle and the sun.The candle is the mind and its light can not be compared to the light of the sun,which is the Self.If a candle travels to the sun,the heat of the sun will melt it before it gets anywhere near it.So it is with the mind.The mind can not reach the Self,but if it makes the attempt ,the Self will destroy it."(No mind, i am the Self/David Godman) |
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manigma
India
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Posted - Apr 06 2011 : 07:08:55 AM
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Yes, beautiful. Effort & Grace. It works just like that.
The affirmation of Absoluteness is suited only for the highest class of aspirants whose minds are ready to receive the higher spiritual Light. When the Sadhaka practises such severe assertions the physical consciousness will try to revolt against all measures taken against its well-being. The general result of such affirmations by weak-minded aspirants is great fear and shock. The Divine Consciousness tries to manifest itself in the individual and shatters the ego like a mad elephant that has entered a small hut. This supreme meditation is called Brahmabhavana or Brahmabhyasa. The force of intense meditation lights up the entire materialised nature and at once liberates the soul like a sudden flash of lightning. At one stroke the universe dwindles into nothingness and the Majesty of Brahman is revealed. This is the Goal.
~ Moksha Gita
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Originally posted by maheswari
If the devotee is sufficiently advanced the Self will pull the mind completely into the Heart and destroy it.
Do you know where this Heart is?
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 : 03:04:22 AM
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| liked "The Divine Consciousness tries to manifest itself in the individual and shatters the ego like a mad elephant that has entered a small hut"...hehehehe so funny |
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manigma
India
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 : 06:01:16 AM
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Originally posted by maheswari
liked "The Divine Consciousness tries to manifest itself in the individual and shatters the ego like a mad elephant that has entered a small hut"...hehehehe so funny
Well its not so funny when it actually happens.
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hemanthks
Canada
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Posted - Apr 07 2011 : 08:53:01 AM
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Originally posted by manigma
Do you know where this Heart is?
Namaste Manigma:
I would like to know where this Heart is ?
Hemanth |
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 : 02:26:52 AM
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manigma ...you are talking as if our current spiritual situation is funny or confortable
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hemanthks.."In describing the origin of the ‘I’-thought Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi sometimes said that it rose to the brain through a channel which started from a centre in the right-hand side of the chest. He called this centre the Heart-centre and said that when the ‘I’-thought subsided into the Self it went back into the centre and disappeared. He also said that when the Self is consciously experienced, there is a tangible awareness that this centre is the source of both the mind and the world. However, these statements are not strictly true and Sri Ramana sometimes qualified them by saying that they were only schematic representations which were given to those people who persisted in identifying with their bodies. He said that the Heart is not really located in the body and that from the highest standpoint it is equally untrue to say that the ‘I’-thought arises and subsides into this centre on the right of the chest. "
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manigma
India
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Posted - Apr 08 2011 : 06:46:23 AM
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Originally posted by hemanthks
I would like to know where this Heart is ?
Its here... and everywhere.
Your beautiful mind is floating in it... right now.
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Ramana analogy
