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garlic

USA
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Posted - Jan 31 2010 :  12:22:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit garlic's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Does anyone know what the Second, Third and Fourth Kriyas are?


Edited by - AYPforum on Jan 31 2010 12:33:22 PM

AYPforum

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Posted - Jan 31 2010 :  12:33:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Moderator note: Topic moved for better placement
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miguel

Spain
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Posted - Jan 31 2010 :  12:37:22 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Garlic,

I think they are different levels in the kriya kundalini pranayama technic from lahiri mahasayah,s kriya yoga lineage.The diferent levels incorporate diferent new elements to the technic.

PS-AYP pranayama tools are very simmilar than it in effects (maybe better due to keeping the simplicity to the maximun=more effect) and execution..

Edited by - miguel on Jan 31 2010 12:38:20 PM
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Ananda

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Posted - Jan 31 2010 :  12:39:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi garlic, in case you haven't check this website it will do you a big favor and save you a lot of time and money.

http://www.kriyayogainfo.net/Eng_Home.html

enjoy
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krcqimpro1

India
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Posted - Feb 01 2010 :  10:33:52 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ananda, Kirtanman or any other member,

Ennio Nimis has written (out of personal experience and conviction) euphorically in his version of Lahiri Mahasaya's Kriya Yoga,about the value of "incremental routines" in providing very rapid advancement on the path to enlightenment. Has any one tried this out? Would be interesting to hear about it.

Krish

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KriyabanSeeking

USA
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 :  12:39:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Garlic, the higher Kriyas are variations of the first kriya. Please remember Lahiri Mahasaya said, "All is possible with first Kriya alone."

Nonetheless, higher Kriya does have immense value.

Traditionally, higher Kriyas aren't even approached until: 1) a substantial # of first Kriya are regularly and properly executed for some time. 2) Kechari mudra is established.

I wish you the best on your journey.

Blessings!
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Kriyaban

USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  12:04:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

Edited by - Kriyaban on Aug 04 2010 09:43:24 AM
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Ananda

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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  07:28:43 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Kriyaban

quote:
Originally posted by Ananda

hi garlic, in case you haven't check this website it will do you a big favor and save you a lot of time and money.

http://www.kriyayogainfo.net/Eng_Home.html

enjoy


Dont waste your time with the site mentioned here. Or your money on the internet connection to get there. LOL practice the first Kriya. nothing else is required in actuality as was mentioned.



again with the narrow minded approach.
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Kriyaban

USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  09:40:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ananda

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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  10:11:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Some might say that they added some good twists in order to refine the whole thing. And if their students or followers are happy with that and with their practices then why not it's not your business and you could actually do more harm then good in certain cases. no practice toward God no matter how light or according to your opinion is lost. all of our practices are an offering to the divine. All the paths are true.

namaste
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Kriyaban

USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  10:59:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ananda

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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  11:06:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh no offense taken don't worry, and i am just truthfully telling people about the truth as well.
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Kriyaban

USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2010 :  2:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

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Clear White Light

USA
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Posted - Aug 04 2010 :  08:17:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
If there is any truth to Kriya Yoga (Or any spiritual practice), it is due to an inherent capability that we as human lifeforms have access to. It is illogical to think that some mind/body/nervous system other than your own would be required to gain results. If this were true, there would be no Gurus at all, because they will have had no one to "train" or "prepare" them. Where would the first guru come from? This is why many Guru based spiritual traditions are forced to trace their "lineage" back to some sort of mythological figure that likely never existed; It fills a huge loophole that any logical, clear thinking individual would recognize. If the first Guru was "God", then God is still available for that kind of connection. It's absurd to think that people living thousands of years ago had some sort of fundamentally superior access to God, and now that access is just closed off.

As far as I can tell, the fundamental forces of nature don't change. Electromagnetism hasn't changed, gravitation hasn't changed. Why would the nature of "God", or "God consciousness" suddenly change from being available to anyone, to needing some intermediary such as Guru? It doesn't make sense to me.

Edited by - Clear White Light on Aug 04 2010 08:41:52 AM
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Jo-self

USA
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Posted - Sep 02 2010 :  10:25:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jo-self's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Clear White Light:

You are so right! Just like having special places. Sure some places are more conducive to practice, more sattvic, but really, where is God not?

-- jo-self
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