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adamantclearlight

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Posted - Jan 28 2010 :  5:01:44 PM  Show Profile  Visit adamantclearlight's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Looks like Wikipedia has updated its entry on Jhana. It really does well to resolve and account for the Upanishadic influence of the Buddha's first teachers, and also his innovation. Very informative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jh%C4%81na

Adamant

alwayson2

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Posted - Jan 28 2010 :  8:12:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit alwayson2's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe jhana is simply a trance state (like that used for wake induced lucid dream, OBE and clairvoyance)

Trance is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

Edited by - alwayson2 on Jan 28 2010 8:52:19 PM
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adamantclearlight

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Posted - Jan 28 2010 :  8:58:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit adamantclearlight's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The arupa-jhanas (formless jhanas), i.e., neither perception nor non-perception is not an pathway to anywhere. Neither is cessation. The rupa jhanas are the way to siddhis, but more importantly are the access route to vipassana (and therefore nibbana).

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Tibetan_Ice

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Posted - Jan 28 2010 :  11:40:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by adamantclearlight

Looks like Wikipedia has updated its entry on Jhana. It really does well to resolve and account for the Upanishadic influence of the Buddha's first teachers, and also his innovation. Very informative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jh%C4%81na

Adamant



Hi Adamant, :)
The only part about that article that bothers me is this:
quote:

Tibetan Buddhism also lacks emphasis on achieving levels of concentration higher than access concentration. According to B. Alan Wallace, one possible explanation for this situation is that virtually all Tibetan Buddhist meditators seek to become enlightened through the use of tantric practices. These practices require the presence of sense desire and passion in one's consciousness, but jhana effectively inhibits these phenomena.


Comments on that?

Thanks.
:)
TI
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