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alwayson2
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 Posted - Sep 20 2009 : 6:21:20 PM
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If you look on youtube, there are a ton of videos of forked tongues.
There were even more videos, but think that youtube took them down...
Interestingly the FAQs on tongue splitting mention kechari mudra, and I have also read that most people who have gotten their tongues split had a spiritual experience. |
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alwayson2
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 1:06:34 PM
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Hi Alwayson:
Well, it all depends on where one hails from. Around these parts, this is self-mutilation inspired by an extremist view. Of course, just about anything can be considered extremist, depending on the perspective of the observer.
Suffice to say that tongue splitting is not recommended in AYP. You knew that already, right? I just wanted to make sure that anyone else who looks at this topic will know it. 
The guru is in you.
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alwayson2
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 1:11:10 PM
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I am trying to figure out if this is a real historic practice in India as is claimed in the link above. I don't recall it being in James Mallinson's khecharividya book.
I emailed a known academic author.
Hopefully I get a response. |
Edited by - alwayson2 on Sep 21 2009 1:16:02 PM |
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 1:18:49 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by alwayson2
I am trying to figure out if this is a real historic practice in India. I don't recall it being in James Mallinson's khecharividya book.
I emailed a known academic author.
Hopefully I get a response.
Yes, it is, but that has no bearing on what we are doing here, any more than holding your arm straight up in the air 24 hours per day for 40 years would be. It too is a "real historic practice." That does not make it useful for a community of practitioners.
For most, these are only attention-getters, obtained at a high cost.
The guru is in you.
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alwayson2
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 2:21:30 PM
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Well from a practical point of view, you could close both nostrils from the inside.
Thus an "internal" Yoni mudra kumbhaka |
Edited by - alwayson2 on Sep 21 2009 2:27:21 PM |
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Konchok Ösel Dorje
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 5:21:43 PM
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| You dont need this. Work w ur current set and you wont care abt specific mudras bandhas; ur mind is the mudra |
Edited by - Konchok Ösel Dorje on Sep 21 2009 5:24:15 PM |
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Victor
USA
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Posted - Sep 21 2009 : 8:34:39 PM
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I looked into this at one time and actually know two people who have split their tongues. I also have been practicing kechari daily stage 3 for about 5 years now so this is my opinion:
First of all I don't see a benefit to closing off both nostrils at once by technique of the tongue. The apparent stoppage of the breath during meditation comes from deepening refinement and silence in the nervous system rather than by force of effort during . During pranayama the breath is sealed in the throat not the inner nostrils and even if it were desirable to seal the inner nostrils it would be easy enough in kechari. That said, my opinion is that if stage 3 and 4 kechari is easy for you and you practice like this every day for several years then it would be entirely up to you. Until then I would just consider it as something to show off or be "cool" with little value otherwise.Perhaps tickling the erectile tissue in the inner nostrils would feel pleasant but aside from that it would be considered a procedure that should really only be considered at the advanced level of advanced practice and my guess is that when you get there it will be irrelevent.
Now if you practice comfortably and easily in full kechari every day then I guess I don't have much more advice other than it is your choice. I considered it and did not choose to do it.
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alwayson2
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Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 09:17:40 AM
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| I heard back from the scholar, and he said tongue splitting is never described |
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alwayson2
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Posted - Sep 22 2009 : 10:26:19 AM
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| James Mallinson also told me that he never heard of tongue splitting in relation to yoga |
Edited by - alwayson2 on Sep 22 2009 10:27:59 AM |
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