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emc
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 Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 03:49:45 AM
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Just a thought that has bewildered me for a while. Some time ago a lot of men started to call eachother "Brother" here in the forum. I have not seen those men call female posters for "Sisters" in the same way, and I haven't seen any females call eachother "Sisters" in that way or any male poster for "brothers" either. Seems to be a bunch of men who join in in this "brother"-thing.
What does this expression stand for and why has it appeared here?
Coming from Sweden, I associate first to Communism. It was a popular expression among communists to increase the sense of "we" or "us". The second association is to black people. They call eachother "brother" or "cousin" to emphazise the group feeling although they don't know eachother, just share the colour of their skin. Third association is to monks in a monastery.
Are the men who use this expression at the forum in need to emphazise their "brotherhood" here? Who do you sense are "we" or "us" since the ladies don't seem to be included as "sisters"?  Do we have a lot of monks here?  |
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Wolfgang
Germany
470 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 04:58:07 AM
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Hello sister
(and no, I am not a monk)
Hugs
your brother |
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Sparkle
Ireland
1457 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 06:36:29 AM
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Blame Ananda, he started it all
your loving brother Louis |
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Katrine
Norway
1813 Posts |
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 10:30:16 AM
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Hi Sista emc....
Personally I used to call all males (and the odd female) "Dude" or "Duder"....but last August I went to New Zealand on my honeymoon, and everyone there calls each other "Bro"....I loved the sense of comradery over there with everyone calling each other "Bro". Everyone was already a friend even if you had never met before. I didn't notice any slang term of endearment for women. Anyways, ever since I went ot NZ I have adopted the phrase "Bro" as my term of endearment for a male friend. I personally wasn't trying to be sexist or purposefully not include the females in the comradery...I will make a greater effort to spread the Love evenly across the board. Thanks for pointing this out.
Love your Brother,
Carson |
Edited by - CarsonZi on Jun 25 2009 10:32:00 AM |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 11:01:48 AM
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namaste beautiful ones,
quote:
Originally posted by Sparkle
Blame Ananda, he started it all
your loving brother Louis
Guilty as charge
and here you go sweet emc: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....ID=440#41926
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....D=5416#48377
and i might've written the terms somewhere else as well.
it's common tradition here in my country for people to call each others as brothers (ya khaye) or sisters (ya okhte) as a sign of bonding especially among friends and we are very similar in it's use like the people of New Zealand (thx Carson ).
simply put we use it to express love and gratitude.
much love,
Ananda |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 11:07:40 AM
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| Oh and a salute from Beirut from your brother\khayik Ananda |
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emc
2072 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 11:48:12 AM
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Oki, so there are examples of sisters also being included, I do maintain, though, that it's more common among the men to say "brother" to eachother, no?
I'm glad it's a sign for you as an expression of love and gratitude to all. It has been used so many times as a means to include some and exclude others... to create "ingroups" and "outgroups". That's how it can become if some use it selectively.
Doesn't Brother Neil also have something to do with the development of this??? His nick encourages the monk association and I guess some might answer only "brother" to him in a way to shorten his nick! |
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Akasha
421 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 1:42:37 PM
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i'm sure brother neil will chime in here.i'm sure he can handle it.
forgive my rudeness, seeing as i'm a recent newcomer to ayp. you have allbeen here for a several years at least.i'm still learning though, with the help of pple here. thank God.
'brother' is a term of ( please provide the blank---)-affection,endearment,love & gratitude etc- i think it is all of this... in fact i know it is... |
Edited by - Akasha on Jun 25 2009 1:48:47 PM |
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grihastha
USA
184 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 1:58:43 PM
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As a Londoner (there's others here, I think), back in the day us lads used to call each other brother or 'bruvver.' It was also fine to call anyone Darling (not 'dahling,' like the actors do - more like 'me old darling.'). And down in Devon, where I've spent much of my life, anyone and everyone, regardless of age and gender, gets called 'my flower,' 'my lover,' 'my love,' 'my darling,' 'my pet,' 'my bird,' or 'my honey'... Love it!!
Anyway... alright, my flowers?
Namaste!
gri |
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Richard
United Kingdom
857 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 2:55:46 PM
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quote:
And down in Devon, where I've spent much of my life, anyone and everyone, regardless of age and gender, gets called 'my flower,' 'my lover,' 'my love,' 'my darling,' 'my pet,' 'my bird,' or 'my honey'... Love it!!
Anyway... alright, my flowers?
Yep he he same here in Cornwall its the same all over the west country I think my lover |
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emc
2072 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 3:10:16 PM
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lover ?!?!
That would NOT be appropriate anywhere in Sweden, I dare say! 
In fact, the old swedish word for "dear" or "loved" one - käring - has now been transformed into a foul word: kärring, meaning an ugly old bitchy lady.  |
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grihastha
USA
184 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 3:36:36 PM
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Funny, isn't it? The lady in the bakery will say it to the vicar and nobody bats an eyelid. Quite right, too. Tantra in action!
Namaste, my flowers!
gri |
Edited by - grihastha on Jun 25 2009 3:38:03 PM |
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Katrine
Norway
1813 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 4:08:59 PM
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 5:27:56 PM
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yes, in my part of th USA, "my lover" insinuates an intimate, usually sexual relationship. But "my love" doesn't, although it would be considered too sweet outside family members.
Also here, "bro" is used casually between males and has an unwritten connotation that both are heterosexual. However, "brother" means a fellow union member or a fellow black man outside the monastery. |
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 5:32:57 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish
However, "brother" means a fellow union member or a fellow black man outside the monastery.
Maybe "Brother" but how about "Brotha"  ....That's "toker" talk.....
Love,
Carson |
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cosmic
USA
821 Posts |
Posted - Jun 25 2009 : 5:58:37 PM
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Sister emc,
I think males are more inclined to use "brother" to each other than to use "sister" to females, because it's one of the few affectionate terms that's considered platonic/heterosexual. Men express their affection for women in a variety of ways, and in more intimate/non-platonic ways. We are more limited in our ways of expressing affection for men (without being perceived as coming on to them). "Brother" is clearly intimate and clearly platonic...
As for these forums, I think Ananda and brother neil are to blame 
I've used "brother" here once in a while, but I tend to subconsciously adapt to the way people speak/write.
With Love
cosmic |
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