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Kirtanman
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 Posted - May 08 2009 : 8:16:14 PM
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Unenlightenment
Paddling upstream against the current of the River of Life with all your might; gasping, going under, breaking the surface again, fearing for your life, and somehow finding that last little reservoir of strength and will, in order to paddle with all your might, with everything you have, yet again - to somehow - somehow, survive - while, despite everything you can do, being pulled downstream at ten miles an hour.
Enlightenment
Floating downstream in the River of Life at ten miles an hour. |
Edited by - Kirtanman on May 08 2009 8:20:42 PM |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 08 2009 : 8:44:22 PM
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Love it...Just let go and let life happen. It's going to anyways!
Love,
Carson |
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machart
USA
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Posted - May 08 2009 : 10:32:11 PM
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Kirtanman and CarsonZi,
Not sure I agree with this one...the salmon fight to go upstream for a reason.
No tapas...no fire...no progress.
If you guys think spiritual progress requires no discipline (just mindlessly floating downstream)...I must respectfully disagree.
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Edited by - machart on May 08 2009 11:27:27 PM |
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2009 : 11:28:08 PM
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Active Surrender (that's just my path though)
Love,
Carson |
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machart
USA
342 Posts |
Posted - May 08 2009 : 11:38:17 PM
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CarsonZi,
It took a lot of discipline to give up drugs...I respect that...You just need to be mindful of what you surrender to. Sounds like you are surrendering to God..that is good!
Floating downstream is too easy...any block of wood can do that.
I still have lots of impurities in my system that I must fight...so surrendering to tamas is not the best path for me...although it might be the easiest. |
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cosmic_troll
USA
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 12:04:51 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by machart
If you guys think spiritual progress requires no discipline (just mindlessly floating downstream)...I must respectfully disagree.
In my experience, surrender takes a great deal of discipline. Have you tried it? It's very difficult until it happens. I see nothing mindless about it...
With Love
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 04:19:53 AM
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I think it's a brilliant analogy (or whatever you call that word)
To me it provides a snapshot glimpse of the huge fights, struggles, almost drownings, heartwrenchings aches and pains, which are the sufferings of life.
Comparing this to the freedom of floating down the stream, which is the action of non-doing or stillness in action, is beautiful.
We can get stuck in the small detail of analogies like this and miss the point.
my 2 irishcents
Thanks Kirtanman |
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CarsonZi
Canada
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 12:12:56 PM
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It's easy to fight...it's hard to let go.
Love,
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Kirtanman
USA
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Posted - May 09 2009 : 7:47:54 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by CarsonZi
It's easy to fight...it's hard to let go.
Love,
Carson
So fully agreed, indeed, Brother Carson!
Until it's easier to let go ... easier to let go ... it's the flow to let go ...
... and then ... this one beautiful eternal moment now, where it's realized ...
It's dreaming to fight.
It's real to let go.
Harmonizing in the Happiness of the Heart of Us All,
Kirtanman |
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