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 A hot drink that stimulates ecstatic conductivity!
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 03 2009 :  5:30:17 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
namaste friends,

the drink is Mate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_ beverage

and i wanted to bring this hot drink to your knowledge in case you don't know about it.

it has a lot of health benefits including burning fat and cleaning the body even though it has caffeine within it but it is a very healthy drink and at the same time in my case it produces ecstatic conductivity every time i drink it which means that it purifies bcz ecstatic conductivity is a result of friction.

now i don't know if it's the drink or the instruments which are used to drink it with bcz they involve taking breaths while taking sips from the bombilla (we call it bambiji or massassa here) but it brings ecstatic conductivity in the spine especially in the heart and neck areas and it happens every time with me so it's experiential.

for those who have ecstatic conductivity going on i would like to hear your opinions on the matter in case you try out this hot beverage or have tried it before.

light and love,

Ananda

miguel

Spain
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Posted - Apr 03 2009 :  5:57:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh yes,yerba mate! excellent drink from Argentina and other countries of sudamerica,they are drinking it all the day with other people (its a social thing),and the seem to be very well while doing it!.
I have bombilla and a little special pumpkin fot its traditional use.You know,the first time you use the pumpkin 8only the first time,after buying a new one) you fill the pumpkin with 3/4 of mate and you add the hot water.Then you leave it resting for 2 days.Then you throw away the mate and the water that was there resting and it is ready for drinkin mate.this process is named "cebar el mate".
The water temperature always must be a little before than boling,just a little before when you see the first bubbles.The you put in the pumpkin 3/4 of yerba mate and after the hot water.
when there is no more water after drinkin,you dont have to throw the coontent,just add more hot water.you throw the mate away and add new mate when there is no bubbles in the surface each time ou add hot water. Only After lot of uses.
mmmmmm...excellent,depurative and stimulating,i have some now in my kitchen,and im gonna prepare one
Thanks ananda!

Edited by - miguel on Apr 03 2009 6:14:06 PM
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 03 2009 :  6:45:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
you are most welcome my friend, and thk you for the instructions now i am thinking of buying a new pumpkin next time i go up mount Lebanon bcz i did the "cebar el mate" all wrong.

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miguel

Spain
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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  03:27:18 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
if you use pumpkin you will have best taste after this procedure of "cebar el mate".After the 2 days of resting,you must clean well the pumpkin (inside)with a spoon and water.the reason of all that procedure is to soften and clean up all the wooden splinters in the pumpkin that have a bad influence in mate's taste.
Enjoy mate!
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  10:39:17 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi miguel,

yes i am using a pumpkin but i've been told that i should put it in hot water for like an hour or so.

next time i buy a pumpkin i'll keep your instructions at bay, thk you for the advise.

namaste,

Ananda
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  11:04:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
What is this pumpkin you are talking about? a "gourd" maybe?
What we call pumpkins are a fresh vegetable that would not work well for a reusable container.
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miguel

Spain
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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  11:56:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ananda.No,it is taken just after adding the water.You always drink mate with a good quantity of hot water beside you.The water is kept in a thermo-recipient or vacuum flask.You add the water when there is no more water in the pumpkin.
A guy from argentina told me all of this instructions.He had a little shop spezialized in mate,in one of that travelling markets...
Etherfishhi!
No,it is not like the halloween pumpkins.It is a very little pumpking of wooden wich is empty, for adding the mate.I think its a gourd,but im not secure.You have to buy the "pumpkin" in a shop spezialized,or one of those little hippy markets...places like that...
remember,its a stimulating drink!(im gonna take another one now)

Edited by - miguel on Apr 04 2009 12:06:40 PM
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  2:09:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi Ether it's a gourd, there is a drawing of it in the wikipedia link.

brother miguel i know how to drink it but what i didn't know was the "cebar al mate" and for that i think you.

by the way most of the druze sheikhs here in Lebanon take this drink, and these guys are pretty much into suffism in the deepest of deepest ways.

kindest regards,

Ananda
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  2:43:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks,
i went to ebay and searched "mate gourd" and there are a lot from all different countries. There's even a kit with mate, gourd, and bombilla. OK back outside; wish I had that now!
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miguel

Spain
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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  5:17:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
wow,i didnt know it was knowed in other countries of the world,what a great thing!
love for lebanon from here
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 04 2009 :  6:36:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
brother miguel, i think that you should take a look at the wikipedia link up there.

and concerning this drink i read on wikipedia that it affects the nervous system in a certain way i hope Yogani or someone else would chime in and comment on this maybe this drink does or doesn't go so well with for those of us who are doing practices to purify the nervous system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate" target="_blank"> br / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate
quote:
Studies of mate, though very limited, have shown preliminary evidence[citation needed] that the mate xanthine cocktail is different from other plants containing caffeine most significantly in its effects on muscle tissue, as opposed to those on the central nervous system, which are similar to those of other natural stimulants. The three xanthines present in mate have been shown to have a relaxing effect on smooth muscle tissue, and a stimulating effect on myocardial (heart) tissue.
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Anthem

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Posted - Apr 06 2009 :  9:38:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ananda,

There have been some reports to suggest there are some health risks for yerba mate, namely increases in certain types of cancer, especially if consumed in the traditional way they do in South America. Just type "yerba mate health risks" into google. If you drink it like tea, the health risks seem to be minimal. See this article here for a fairly balanced perspective:

http://www.caring4cancer.com/go/can...on/questions

Seems like drinking it in moderation would be ok.
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  08:18:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi Anthem, thk you for chiming in my good friend and thx for the link i already read some stuff about the dangers of cancer related to mate but they all seemed contradictory but this topic clears it all.

guess it would be wise to quote the ending of the topic, but i will keep on drinking mate cz as far as i know everything we are eating or drinking these days has cancer risks within it even the air we breath and the sun we bask in:

quote:
The Bottom Line

Despite the general belief that mate is a health drink, the evidence suggests otherwise. When prepared and consumed in the traditional South American manner, yerba mate contains high levels of carcinogenic (cancer causing) chemicals called PAHs (26).

It is important to note that the traditional preparation of yerba mate involves adding water to the same batch of leaves several times and drinking all of these cups of tea. This will expose the person consuming mate to higher levels of PAHs than if the drink were prepared once and the leaves discarded. In this sense, enjoying a single cup of yerba mate tea that has been prepared from a fresh tea bag is unlikely to expose a person to the high levels of PAHs that are found in traditionally prepared brews.

The bottom line is that when consumed in the traditional South America way, yerba mate drinks contribute significant amounts of carcinogenic PAHs to the diet. If you have enjoyed a cup of yerba mate yourself from time to time, do not panic. You have not been exposed to PAH levels beyond what is found in many foods and drinks in the average American diet.

In summary yerba mate may not be the best choice of beverages for good health, but when consumed occasionally, yerba mate is very unlikely to be linked with any type of cancer.


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Anthem

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Posted - Apr 11 2009 :  4:24:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ananda,

So you got me curious and I went out and bought some yerba mate, the version which comes in the tea-like bags and have been drinking it a few times over the last few days. I did notice a slight increase in ecstatic conductivity and sexual energy in general. I know it may not be what you were looking for, but for me there were some negative side-effects too, enough that I will discontinue drinking. I'm definitely on the highly sensitive side, but did notice a few things like an inability to relax deep muscle tissue in the chest, upper-back and neck/ head four hours after drinking, I felt a little "hyped" up. An uncomfortable heat(for lack of a better description) in general particularly in the neck, back and throat and again for hours after drinking. I definitely didn't expect any reactions like that so was surprised and don't ever notice these from drinking tea. I should say for objectivity reasons, I don't drink coffee ever or tea very often so am sensitive to the effects of caffeine in general.

Just some feedback from one perspective.

All the best!

A
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Scott

USA
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Posted - Apr 11 2009 :  9:29:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I like this as an alternative to coffee. The buzz is "cleaner" and apparently it's not addictive.
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 12 2009 :  12:41:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
thk you for the feedback brother Anthem and i am sorry it reacted that way on your body; bcz in my case it's quite the opposite and i am a sensitive meditator as well and i don't drink coffee nor tea well maybe once every month or so with good company.

best wishes!

hi Scott, and thk you for chiming in.

kindest regards,

Ananda







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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 25 2009 :  1:59:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
just want to point out that the ecstatic reaction is still going on with me when i drink this stuff and neither me or my friends nor anyone of my family have had any health issues from it; actually it's the whole other way around and my mother is happy bcz she says that she's losing weight bcz of it.

so i still do heartily recommend this drink for everyone.

light and love,

Ananda
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Goddessinside

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Posted - Apr 25 2009 :  2:30:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Goddessinside's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ananda,

Matte drink reminds me of my childhood when I used to see my aunts drinking it.. I used to feel it was a special ritual, like a magic potion or something like that (but my aunts were never turned into frogs )

I never felt attracted to tasting it because of its color: a kind of green mixture with a weird smell

After reading your post, I said why not trying it now!

But now that you say matte makes us loose weight, I'm hesitating a little bit.. because it's been 6 months I'm getting thinner, no matter what I eat.. and I was the kind of person who would gain weight very easily.. I don't know if it has to do with the pranayama I'm doing.. coz the weight loss started from the moment I started to include them in my daily routine..

Anyway, I will give matte a try, why not.. maybe it will have a reverse effect on me! you never know

Love.

Edited by - Goddessinside on Apr 25 2009 2:32:35 PM
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Ananda

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Posted - Apr 27 2009 :  03:35:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi Goddess, it's always good to have you around my dear friend.

i hope that all is going well with you, and sorry to hear about your weight loss maybe you should think of making a change in your diet giving the fact that your diet is considered kind of a little strict among some people.

and about Mate, yeah it's true it has that whole ritual scenery to it and as i said before it's mostly dranked by druze sheikhs and you know what a bunch of suffis and secretive people these guys are.

and this is some of the folklore surrounding this drink:

from wikipedia
quote:

The Guaraní (Guarani, in Brazilian Portuguese) people started drinking mate in the region that now includes Paraguay, southern Brazil, north-east Argentina, and Uruguay. The Guaraní have a legend that says that the Goddesses of the Moon and the Cloud came to the Earth one day to visit it but they instead found a Yaguareté (a jaguar) that was going to attack them. An old man saves them, and, in compensation, the Goddesses gave the old man a new kind of plant, from which he could prepare a "drink of friendship".


by the way i just wanted to point out that Yogani says that he stays away from everything which involves caffeine within it and that he is getting enough kicks as is from the inside.

warmest regards to you sweet Goddess.

love,

Ananda
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Goddessinside

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Posted - Apr 27 2009 :  9:25:06 PM  Show Profile  Visit Goddessinside's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ananda

About my weight loss, it happened about 6 months ago, when I started pranayama.. but it has been stable since then. However, no matter what and how much I eat now, there's no weight gain, and I wouldn't mind gaining 2 or 3 kilos and by the way, I eat a variety of food including fish. I only discard dairy products, baked flour and meat, which I cannot tolerate anymore. (even if I include small portions of whole wheat bread or pasta)
But I must share with you another "magic hot drink" that stimulates kundalini: it's called "belly dancing"
I had my first official private course yesterday:
cannot tell you how it felt and still feeling now!
I only slept 4 hours, and feel such wholeness and energy.
It was just waiting for me, although I never liked dancing, especially on arabic music (which I can't really "feel", by the way but I actually found out that I was pretty talented and the movements came very naturally.. This is what I needed in my life, and the call came right on time

When I first saw the teacher performance, only by watching her, it stimulated my 3 first chakras in a very obvious way and I felt energy buzzing in the breast and heart area..

I wish all the ladies could learn this dance, coz it's really designed for women's body and energies..

Love

Edited by - Goddessinside on Apr 27 2009 9:33:02 PM
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Ananda

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Posted - Jun 05 2011 :  04:51:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ananda's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
A change of view concerning all stimulant drinks, I can't recommend them any more.

I've been going through a couple of days of caffeine detox (which also exists in Matte) and it's not an easy thing... The body seems to be really attached to this stuff and my nervous system is very exited right now plus I have a mild headache which I know will become stronger like the days before but I will go through this...

I've also noticed in the friends I teach who drink a lot of coffee, that when they start meditation they usually experience some headache...

Love,
Ananda
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maheswari

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 05 2011 :  10:59:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
txs for the continuous update over the years
never liked matte
i only have one latte per day with small spoon of coffe...and no tea no nothing...only on rare occasions
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woosa

United Kingdom
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Posted - Mar 19 2013 :  09:38:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I just thought I would do a resurrection and revive this old thread. Not as miraculous as Lazarus... but I try.

I was just wondering if any of you out there are drinking yerba mate and how it's working for you and your practice?

For part of my discovery of hot beverages quest type thing (yeah I'm like a housebound Indiana Jones) I got a wooden mate cup and some bags full of loose herbs (even if it tasted horrible the cup looked like a cool pencil holder, or a holy grail from The Last Crusade). They look very suspicious, cannabis like. I think I might carry it about with me to stir up the authorities, because I'm annoying like that.

Anyway, I must say that it's ridiculous the effect slurping this has had on me today. It hasn't been stimulating at all, in fact I'm really, really relaxed, more so than usual which I never thought was possible! - it has really boosted the ecstatic conductivity too, in a subtle, calming way. My nerves feel divine (I sounded a bit camp there ). I feel like it really easy to 'space out', but be alert when I need to be. This is really handy because I have been going through a continually exhausted phase lately and this seems to have lifted me without the crash I get from coffee.

I'll stop now because with this much praising I should be getting royalties... I wonder though if the initial drink has an exaggerating effect as I get used to it. Or maybe I was just poisoned from the wooden cup releasing sap.

Just thought I would share, so to interest other people who are wondering whether to take the plunge. Please bear in mind I'm using loose yerba and not tea bags, because with the traditional way of drinking you use quite a lot of it, so you will be getting a lot more of the good stuff.
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