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Non

USA
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Posted - Mar 23 2009 :  7:59:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Non's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I have a huge problem with masturbation and feeling "horny" all the time, and also feeling desperate for love and more (I've never had it and I'm 22, and my social life is very empty, has been for pretty much all my life). It keeps me from doing anything too productive when I am alone and I can just pass the whole day being preoccupied with my non existent social life and sex life. It's been very hard to beat. On top of that I usually don't sleep well, and Im always feeling tired and lethargic, and depressed because of my state of being the way it is. It's a vicious cycle, and I end up wasting a lot of time. First I need to learn transmutation so I can at least get something done.

I need some effective transmutation techniques as soon as possible. I'm holding my virya as long as possible. I've done it before, longest I went was 2 months but not without masturbatory pleasure (not until full ejaculation though).

Does it just work if I don't focus on sex at all?

I've tried doing that but I can't help but feel a physiological "need" for release. I dont even know if it's my mind as much as it is my body.

kind regards

Edited by - Non on Mar 23 2009 8:14:56 PM

Scott

USA
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Posted - Mar 23 2009 :  9:07:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
It doesn't work to try to transmute it or suppress it.

In the Chinese "Yellow Emperor's Classic of Medicine" (the book that brought about Traditional Chinese Medicine as we know it), they say that men need to find partners and have sex, for their health! I agree with it.

I also agree with the idea that masturbation is a healthy behavior (to a certain point). Don't feel so bad about it. When you're horny, it's normal.

Trying to be celibate when you're at this point in your life does more harm than anything. No matter what. It's unnatural.

The best thing that will help transmute the sexual energies is deep meditation (or pretty much any other type of meditation). I caution you to avoid other techniques.

Treat the root of the problem...

You should try to fix your love life! Check out the pick up artist book, "Magic Bullets"...but don't get all caught up in that scene. Pick up artists are pretty annoying creatures. The book is just good info to know for great social skills, and it will help you meet more girls and not screw it up for yourself. You deserve the opportunity.

Also, go to the gym and work out so that you stop feeling so depressed. It'll give you something to do, too...so that you stop sitting around all the time. Come up with some hobby. Check out www.meetup.com to come up with some ideas and try out some groups.
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Goddessinside

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Posted - Mar 24 2009 :  06:50:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit Goddessinside's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Non,

I agree with Scott: you need physical activity (running outdoor, swimming, etc.)
Neither suppression nor indulgence without awareness will do.
Sex is natural and doesn't harm as long as it is practiced in a non-guilty state and with acceptance.. (alone or with a partner).
What is much more harmful is a suppressive attitude towards it.
To transmute or transform your sexual energies, it doesn't happen in 1 week!
You need first to look at it as it is, try to understand it..
And this cannot be done mentally.
To transmute sex, you will have to go deep in it, as deep as you can, lovingly, slowly.. take your time, be open to your senses.
I can suggest a book: "From Sex to Superconsciousness" - Osho.
Meanwhile, you can take the time to read about deep meditation on this website..(see in the Key Lessons on the left of this page).
It will calm your mind and agitations, and help you deal with your frustrations.

Good work and best regards.
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Sparkle

Ireland
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Posted - Mar 24 2009 :  09:32:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Sparkle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Non, welcome to the forum

As well as the recommendations above, just to say that the whole process of the AYP system is supportive of transmuting the sexual energy up the spine into the higher vibrations.

Would recommend you start at lesson one and work your way through gently, no rush.
http://www.aypsite.org/10.html

All the best
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anthony574

USA
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Posted - Mar 24 2009 :  11:35:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit anthony574's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Do AYP, but dont obssess about it

EXERCISE
Do stuff in the real world

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wotanica

Norway
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Posted - May 12 2009 :  6:08:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit wotanica's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
It will take to long to explain, but here are some pointers:

1. Overactivity in one area means that something is blocked somewhere else. You mention your social life, who in turn is a result of your abillity to communicate. SUCCESS Depends on how well we interact with everything around us. To be plain, you have a problem interacting with live people. My guess would be your self-image, not knowing just who you are and where you belong. This leads you to be introverted and imprisoned to a world of fantasy and boredom.

1b. Look at yourself as a city. Always. Now what has happened here? You have the "tax collectors" going nuts, selling off your gold in exchange for nothing. Each organ has his govenor. Each emotion has it's storage-house. Why does your energy stop dead at your penis? Why does it now flow to your stomac, your solar plexus without being "taxed" by typhon and his crew? Like you said, your social life is not right. Search your feelings, forgive or be forgiven, release it. Heal the emotions like you are holding a small child that cries. That, is plucking the thorns of karma.

2. Mastrubating is fine, but to many orgasms will deplete your body if vital fire, vital energy and - to some extent, induce melancolia (hence the cycle repeats itself). Also, the sexual organs have different reflex zones. The stem of the penis f.ex, stimulates kidneys and liver, while the heart is stimulated by the "sensitive area". How about mastrubating and massaging the stem, each side - knowing that this will also benefit the rest of your body?

3. Try a "7" period of activity. Mastrubate daily, lets say 2 times each day - without orgasm. This will give you a lot of energy, and after 7 days you will be able to benchpress 20 kilos extra. Now go to the gym each day and transmute that energy (investing) into muscle power.

4. You can also transmute it easily into strengthening your organs. But it will take to long to explain here. I suggest you get some books on the subject (tao of sex, tao of longivity etc.).

Stay away from orgasm for 7 days, but mastrubate all you want. When you feel the energy begin to take you over. STOP. Then contract your anal muscles, try to do it calmly, hold it for at long as you can. It should feel almost like air is being sucked in, and you should feel a tingling sensation at the back of your neck or head. You will notice after a while that you no longer want to mastrubate, because the energy level is just so great!

This means that you have transported sexual energy from the waters below ("john" the baptist, get it?). This can greatly benefit your organs.

BUT - this is useless if you dont clean your emotional systems, meaning your liver and your kidneys. Forgive yourself, and forgive others. This was done in special houses, called purgatoriums, in ancient greece and rome. It is that effective.

I should also mention that the word "Sin" (that seems to haunt us in the west) stems from the Greek hamartia, which is connected to archery and means "to miss the mark". In other words, dont beat yourself up. You miss, forgive, and try again. No magic, no miracles, just patience, love and being careful will help.

Note: Depending on your age, there is a simple calculation formula on how many orgasms you can have each month/week before it get's unhealthy (I believe it was "Age * 0,2 / 2" rounded upwards). If you are in your twenties, I would guess that each 3'th day is ok (no loss of chi, but no gain either). Thirties is between 4 and 5 days, and fourties once a week. At fifty, depending on your general health I would say once every 8'th or 9'th day - and sixty: be careful but enjoy. These are just guideline numbers, each individual is different. But dont blow your life force just on porn and silly dreams during your 20's. You are going to live with your vital essence for a long time, so take care of it (do not insult the spirit).

Play, live, be happy - but don't think that this is magical. Because it's not. Its work. Energy work. And emotions always lie at the heart of all our expressions, be they overactive sex, lack of holy spirit fire - leading to back pain, loss of memory -- you name it.

Dont exploit the passions (use them to heal)
-Buddha

My methods are simple, but they work
-Lao Tzu

Do ye not know that the body is a temple for the holy spirit?
God examines the kidney and liver, and gives back to each what they have done.
-Saint Paul of tarsus



Edited by - wotanica on May 12 2009 7:14:04 PM
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mikkiji

USA
219 Posts

Posted - May 13 2009 :  12:39:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit mikkiji's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a syllogism: Life Is Joy. Sex is Life. Therefore, Sex is Joy. So enjoy!
Michael

Edited by - mikkiji on May 13 2009 12:47:22 PM
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markern

Norway
171 Posts

Posted - May 13 2009 :  1:58:51 PM  Show Profile  Visit markern's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
mindfluness and mindfulness based cognitive therapy and aceeptance and comittment therpy (also using mindfluness) should work great with addictions of any kind.

Superbrainyoga.com

their techniques suposedly is good for sublimation while boosting your brain. Extreemly simple.

You could also check out Karezza for a different sexuality
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Non

USA
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Posted - May 17 2009 :  1:58:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Non's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
wotanica: when you say orgasm do you mean ejaculatory orgasm?

because I have no problem having non ejaculatory orgasm but it may not be the same that everyone else has, and probably more short-lived also.
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wotanica

Norway
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Posted - May 20 2009 :  6:45:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit wotanica's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Non

wotanica: when you say orgasm do you mean ejaculatory orgasm? because I have no problem having non ejaculatory orgasm but it may not be the same that everyone else has, and probably more short-lived also.



With orgasm i mean with ejaculation, yes.
The thing is, that once in a while you have to ejaculate. If you walk around with a full prostate - that too is dangerous.

There is also a more plesant way of emptying the prostate. Simply mastrubate and allow it to leak (let it leak out a gush or two, relax, then continue). Dont try to hold it in.

But the sex thing is easy. A child can do this.
The hard part, is the emotional bit. I can not underline this enough.

The lust thing

I should mention perhaps, without sounding like a over-protective parent, that your thoughts also impacts the energy. If you use lust as the main power-source, this will polarize the generated chi to lust. Think of it like a clear glass of water, being coloured red for instance.

There are practices where you must maintain the errection, but not a lustful thought must enter your mind.

Depending on your focus, you can actually use porn to excite - and then constantly recognize that it is just forms. But the best way is natural.

If you experience bloating, loads of air "stuck" in your stumac, a burning sensation moving in your abdomen - then you should probably blow your load to get rid of it.
If you have a girlfriend however, she can easily transform the fire. Simply by laying behind her - "spooning" as the americans call it, so your absomen is in contact with her back. It is the female energy that actually does the transformation. Fire and water creates the steam that vitalize the organs.

Well, take care my friend
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