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260 From: Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:14pm
Subject: Kechari Mudra; stretching the tongue with Ghee ashwinjlsun
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Dear Victor,
You Said..."To stretch it I took hold of my tongue
with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple times so
it won't slip) and then just gently pull, first in
front, then to one side then another. You can time the
stretch for maybe a minute per side or something like
that."
My Ayurvedic Teacher, who can do Kechari Mudra, said a
similar thing about gently pulling the tongue forward,
and thus 'stroking it' to lengthen it...I just wanted
to add that he recommended putting a little Ghee
(clarified butter) on the tongue when doing this to
use the oiliation principle to soften the tongue
making it more susceptible to the lengthening
practice. Oil is unctuous, and aids the tissues in
increasing their flexibility, and thus length...
Just a note...let me know if you get a chance to try
it, and what affects it has for you...
Namaste-
Ashwin Sun
--- victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alex,
> Congratulations! You will probably not feel much
> lengthening at first. it will be a little swollen
> and needs to heal. To stretch it I took hold of my
> tongue with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple
> times so it won't slip) and then just gently pull,
> first in front, then to one side then another. You
> can time the stretch for maybe a minute per side or
> something like that. Once you are completely healed
> you will never even notice that you snipped. I did
> the stretching while driving my car as i had some
> time and no one was watching me. Once the snip is
> completely healed you can do the next one. Best of
> luck!
>
> Alex Marks <alex@amarks81.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Victor; I made my first snip yesterday. There was a
> bit of blood but no pain and huge adrenelin as I
> found it a struggle to modify my body in this way,
> I've always profoundly held my body as sacred and a
> perfect as it is. In terms of pushing the tongue
> back towards the nasal pharynx it doesn't seem to of
> made a difference (yet). You refer below to
> stretching your tongue; can you explain to me how
> you do this.
> Thanks,
> Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: victor yj
> To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AYPforum] Re: Kechari Mudra, what
> are your experiences?
>
>
> Georgia,
> Trim gently and keep practicing! As things
> progress for you please keep us updated as I am very
> interested in others experience and will be happy to
> help in any way I can.
> I was lucky, I only needed to snip once but I
> think I overdid it a bit as my tongue was sore for a
> week! I stretched it every day and when it healed I
> was able to practice kechari during pranayama. I had
> been able to take the tongue back before but not for
> a whole practice.
> I wouldn't say that practicing Kechari created a
> dramatic alteration in my conciousness as much as
> that it feels like an essential missing piece to the
> puzzle of pranayama and meditation. For some reason
> while in Kechari I find that the mantra "works"
> whereas before it just seemed like repeating sounds.
> hard to describe but something kicks in. The same
> goes for the dynamic jalandhara which is very
> closely tied to Kechari and together they really
> open the throat area and create connection between
> the head and heart energetically. It is a process of
> "purification" as Yogani says and sometimes feels as
> if lower sludgy energies are being dredged out and
> cleared. After doing Pranayama for over 20 years
> this Kechari is clearly the next step for me and I
> am so glad to have found these teachings as they do
> not seem available anywhere else.
>
> Georgia Victoria Weinkauf <sss3333nnn@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Victor,
>
> Oh, THE FLOW!!! I AM at Stage 1 Kechari, and am
> about to begin
> trimming my frenum, as I am throat-jamming, as
> Yogani explains, and
> perhaps I'm a little early now...however Kechari I
> DO SO want to
> learn, as I feel it would ELEVATE BOTH my
> CONSCIOUSNESS, as well as my
> level of practice! Perhaps you can help here.
> Yogani calls it "a Giant
> Leap for Mankind," and I WANT TO make THAT LEAP!!!
>
> My tongue is, at present, not long enough to
> stretch up into the nasal
> septum, although I practice daily. CONGRATULATIONS
> to YOU!!!
>
> Blessings,
> Nirmal!
>
> ..."to learn Kechari Mudra and this was the only
> source of teaching
> that I found. It has been a great help in my
> practice and I am
> wondering who here is practicing Kechari and at
> what level and what
> your experiences...
>
>
>
>
>
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263 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:22pm
Subject: Re: Kechari Mudra; stretching the tongue with Ghee vic
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I have heard about using ghee and am sure that it works well in "milking" teh tongue. What I was talking baout was that the tongue is wet and slippery and if I got it a little dryer it would be easier to hold. I think we are talking about two things here. In your case you use ghee like a massage oil and squeeze and massage and milk the tongue. What I described was holding it and applying a gentle pull to lengthen it. Both are no doubt good methods. I just did this casually while driving my car so couldn't apply full attention with ghee etc. It did work for me though. no doubt the ghee method is more classical and thorough.
Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com> wrote:Dear Victor,
You Said..."To stretch it I took hold of my tongue
with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple times so
it won't slip) and then just gently pull, first in
front, then to one side then another. You can time the
stretch for maybe a minute per side or something like
that."
My Ayurvedic Teacher, who can do Kechari Mudra, said a
similar thing about gently pulling the tongue forward,
and thus 'stroking it' to lengthen it...I just wanted
to add that he recommended putting a little Ghee
(clarified butter) on the tongue when doing this to
use the oiliation principle to soften the tongue
making it more susceptible to the lengthening
practice. Oil is unctuous, and aids the tissues in
increasing their flexibility, and thus length...
Just a note...let me know if you get a chance to try
it, and what affects it has for you...
Namaste-
Ashwin Sun
--- victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Alex,
> Congratulations! You will probably not feel much
> lengthening at first. it will be a little swollen
> and needs to heal. To stretch it I took hold of my
> tongue with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple
> times so it won't slip) and then just gently pull,
> first in front, then to one side then another. You
> can time the stretch for maybe a minute per side or
> something like that. Once you are completely healed
> you will never even notice that you snipped. I did
> the stretching while driving my car as i had some
> time and no one was watching me. Once the snip is
> completely healed you can do the next one. Best of
> luck!
>
> Alex Marks <alex@amarks81.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Victor; I made my first snip yesterday. There was a
> bit of blood but no pain and huge adrenelin as I
> found it a struggle to modify my body in this way,
> I've always profoundly held my body as sacred and a
> perfect as it is. In terms of pushing the tongue
> back towards the nasal pharynx it doesn't seem to of
> made a difference (yet). You refer below to
> stretching your tongue; can you explain to me how
> you do this.
> Thanks,
> Alex
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: victor yj
> To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AYPforum] Re: Kechari Mudra, what
> are your experiences?
>
>
> Georgia,
> Trim gently and keep practicing! As things
> progress for you please keep us updated as I am very
> interested in others experience and will be happy to
> help in any way I can.
> I was lucky, I only needed to snip once but I
> think I overdid it a bit as my tongue was sore for a
> week! I stretched it every day and when it healed I
> was able to practice kechari during pranayama. I had
> been able to take the tongue back before but not for
> a whole practice.
> I wouldn't say that practicing Kechari created a
> dramatic alteration in my conciousness as much as
> that it feels like an essential missing piece to the
> puzzle of pranayama and meditation. For some reason
> while in Kechari I find that the mantra "works"
> whereas before it just seemed like repeating sounds.
> hard to describe but something kicks in. The same
> goes for the dynamic jalandhara which is very
> closely tied to Kechari and together they really
> open the throat area and create connection between
> the head and heart energetically. It is a process of
> "purification" as Yogani says and sometimes feels as
> if lower sludgy energies are being dredged out and
> cleared. After doing Pranayama for over 20 years
> this Kechari is clearly the next step for me and I
> am so glad to have found these teachings as they do
> not seem available anywhere else.
>
> Georgia Victoria Weinkauf <sss3333nnn@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear Victor,
>
> Oh, THE FLOW!!! I AM at Stage 1 Kechari, and am
> about to begin
> trimming my frenum, as I am throat-jamming, as
> Yogani explains, and
> perhaps I'm a little early now...however Kechari I
> DO SO want to
> learn, as I feel it would ELEVATE BOTH my
> CONSCIOUSNESS, as well as my
> level of practice! Perhaps you can help here.
> Yogani calls it "a Giant
> Leap for Mankind," and I WANT TO make THAT LEAP!!!
>
> My tongue is, at present, not long enough to
> stretch up into the nasal
> septum, although I practice daily. CONGRATULATIONS
> to YOU!!!
>
> Blessings,
> Nirmal!
>
> ..."to learn Kechari Mudra and this was the only
> source of teaching
> that I found. It has been a great help in my
> practice and I am
> wondering who here is practicing Kechari and at
> what level and what
> your experiences...
>
>
>
>
>
> For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to:
> http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AYPforum/
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
> AYPforum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the
> Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
>
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265 From: Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Kechari Mudra; stretching the tongue with Ghee ashwinjlsun
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I agree with you, and I didn't mention it, but yes the
tongue must be made dry BEFORE applying the
ghee...thanks for the clarifying notice.
Doing this while driving would be dangerous, huh? I
think you have a good thing going there...we can
simply stretch the tongue any time we have a spare
moment, and when at home we can dry and milk/stretch
the tongue with ghee also! What a beautiful combo!
Thanks Victor...
Ashwin
--- victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have heard about using ghee and am sure that it
> works well in "milking" teh tongue. What I was
> talking baout was that the tongue is wet and
> slippery and if I got it a little dryer it would be
> easier to hold. I think we are talking about two
> things here. In your case you use ghee like a
> massage oil and squeeze and massage and milk the
> tongue. What I described was holding it and applying
> a gentle pull to lengthen it. Both are no doubt good
> methods. I just did this casually while driving my
> car so couldn't apply full attention with ghee etc.
> It did work for me though. no doubt the ghee method
> is more classical and thorough.
>
> Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com> wrote:Dear
> Victor,
>
> You Said..."To stretch it I took hold of my tongue
> with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple times so
> it won't slip) and then just gently pull, first in
> front, then to one side then another. You can time
> the
> stretch for maybe a minute per side or something
> like
> that."
>
> My Ayurvedic Teacher, who can do Kechari Mudra, said
> a
> similar thing about gently pulling the tongue
> forward,
> and thus 'stroking it' to lengthen it...I just
> wanted
> to add that he recommended putting a little Ghee
> (clarified butter) on the tongue when doing this to
> use the oiliation principle to soften the tongue
> making it more susceptible to the lengthening
> practice. Oil is unctuous, and aids the tissues in
> increasing their flexibility, and thus length...
>
> Just a note...let me know if you get a chance to try
> it, and what affects it has for you...
>
> Namaste-
> Ashwin Sun
>
>
> --- victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Alex,
> > Congratulations! You will probably not feel much
> > lengthening at first. it will be a little swollen
> > and needs to heal. To stretch it I took hold of my
> > tongue with my hand (had to wipe the hand a couple
> > times so it won't slip) and then just gently pull,
> > first in front, then to one side then another. You
> > can time the stretch for maybe a minute per side
> or
> > something like that. Once you are completely
> healed
> > you will never even notice that you snipped. I did
> > the stretching while driving my car as i had some
> > time and no one was watching me. Once the snip is
> > completely healed you can do the next one. Best of
> > luck!
> >
> > Alex Marks <alex@amarks81.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > Victor; I made my first snip yesterday. There was
> a
> > bit of blood but no pain and huge adrenelin as I
> > found it a struggle to modify my body in this way,
> > I've always profoundly held my body as sacred and
> a
> > perfect as it is. In terms of pushing the tongue
> > back towards the nasal pharynx it doesn't seem to
> of
> > made a difference (yet). You refer below to
> > stretching your tongue; can you explain to me how
> > you do this.
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: victor yj
> > To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 7:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AYPforum] Re: Kechari Mudra, what
> > are your experiences?
> >
> >
> > Georgia,
> > Trim gently and keep practicing! As things
> > progress for you please keep us updated as I am
> very
> > interested in others experience and will be happy
> to
> > help in any way I can.
> > I was lucky, I only needed to snip once but I
> > think I overdid it a bit as my tongue was sore for
> a
> > week! I stretched it every day and when it healed
> I
> > was able to practice kechari during pranayama. I
> had
> > been able to take the tongue back before but not
> for
> > a whole practice.
> > I wouldn't say that practicing Kechari created a
> > dramatic alteration in my conciousness as much as
> > that it feels like an essential missing piece to
> the
> > puzzle of pranayama and meditation. For some
> reason
> > while in Kechari I find that the mantra "works"
> > whereas before it just seemed like repeating
> sounds.
> > hard to describe but something kicks in. The same
> > goes for the dynamic jalandhara which is very
> > closely tied to Kechari and together they really
> > open the throat area and create connection between
> > the head and heart energetically. It is a process
> of
> > "purification" as Yogani says and sometimes feels
> as
> > if lower sludgy energies are being dredged out and
> > cleared. After doing Pranayama for over 20 years
> > this Kechari is clearly the next step for me and I
> > am so glad to have found these teachings as they
> do
> > not seem available anywhere else.
> >
> > Georgia Victoria Weinkauf <sss3333nnn@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Victor,
> >
> > Oh, THE FLOW!!! I AM at Stage 1 Kechari, and am
> > about to begin
> > trimming my frenum, as I am throat-jamming, as
> > Yogani explains, and
> > perhaps I'm a little early now...however Kechari
> I
> > DO SO want to
> > learn, as I feel it would ELEVATE BOTH my
> > CONSCIOUSNESS, as well as my
> > level of practice! Perhaps you can help here.
> > Yogani calls it "a Giant
> > Leap for Mankind," and I WANT TO make THAT
> LEAP!!!
> >
> > My tongue is, at present, not long enough to
> > stretch up into the nasal
> > septum, although I practice daily.
> CONGRATULATIONS
> > to YOU!!!
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Nirmal!
> >
> > ..."to learn Kechari Mudra and this was the
> only
> > source of teaching
> > that I found. It has been a great help in my
> > practice and I am
> > wondering who here is practicing Kechari and at
> > what level and what
> > your experiences...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to:
> > http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AYPforum/
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> > to:
> > AYPforum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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> > Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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