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Ananda
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 Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 5:29:51 PM
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namaste everyone,
i've been wondering today about this chakra between the third eye and the crown chakra and this is why i thought about posting this topic in the 1st place.
b4 coming to ayp i had a premature crown chakra, but when i got here i got it under control due to the practice of spinal breathing pranayama in precise.
and then i achieved kechari mudra to it's fullest in a very short while but without snipping and now there's serious activity in the third eye similar to that i used to have in the crown when i had the premature crown opening but it's concidered as smooth sailing unlike what used to happen in the crown.
and before a connectivity used to be established from the crown toward the third eye and i never felt the chakra between them in the forhead above the ajna.
but now there is 1st an ecstatic conductivity from the heart toward the ajna then it goes up towards the forhead chakra towards the crown.
but this forhead chakra is really active now.
so it would be really nice if anyone here could share his knowledge or relate to what i'm going through and maybe give me some tips about what to expect and some info concerning the forhead chakra for example and i know it's a good thing but it would be nice to have some info on the matter and see the experiences of others at the same time and relate to them.
kind regards,
Ananda |
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Jun 21 2008 : 9:37:06 PM
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I say just grounding and pretty much any mindfulness practices that will help you train your focus.
I don't know what you mean by "really active" though, some details on symptoms would be really helpful. Here's my rule though, it's the only one really needed. When in doubt, bring your awareness to it, and let it do its thang (sometimes a little "setting ego aside" is needed I guess, but that's mostly natural once you get in touch with looking at stuff haha. Yup, we're in the business of looking at stuff here at AYP haha).
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 22 2008 : 02:22:40 AM
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:) hi dear Divineis, it's always nice to hear from you.
but the case here is different then grounding, i should carry on cz it's nice ecstatic conductivity and i've asked yogani about it and he told me it's a good thing and to be honset he's right it's a very good thing :)
and it's all under hand not like when i had the premature crown chakra where sometimes the energy would be very overwhelming.
here it's just ecstatic conductivity plus an amazing sense of being grounded and focused while meditating :) and while being active throughout the day.
to tell the truth since the third eye opening happened i never felt more grounded or focused and mindfulness just is by itself now an automatic practice.
and i ow it all to ayp's main lessons, thk you yogani.
but the reason why i'm posting this is bcz i know that there are others here like me and it would be nice to relate with others and understand the matter at hand more.
in the end this is what satsangs are for :)
namaste
Ananda |
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Jun 22 2008 : 07:23:18 AM
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haha, sweet, I dig it, It's really awesome to hear that Ananda :). I've been quite ecstatic myself lately too. A lot of heart stuff going on. I lovingly hugged so many people yesterday... (well still "today" since I haven't slept).
I think it's kinda weird at first that ecstatic conductivity thing, sorta like you have all this energy you just want to give, energy that's like bursting out the seams sometimes hehe, but you're not really sure where to focus it.
It seems for me it was more of a third eye/crown sort of ecstatic energy going on at first(the everything you look at kind, I wish I could explain that), and it's really starting to relax in the heart lately. Like i'll still get pissed off at people from time to time, but when I really look at the behaviours, it all comes down to "it's never enough" (ego stuff, which is 100% fine) and I get that, and I have so much compassion for that, but all we have is this moment, and all I want to say\express any way I can is that it's always been enough (not enough included, its always been just enough, otherwise it woudln't be, gotta cherish what be haha), there's a mighty treasure sitting underneath all our noses.
And I forget this all the time, not that it's something I remember, more something I feel strongly from time to time. I'm sure most of you know just what I mean... but I just look at it as "forgetting" as being part of what "be", and I just keep on relaxing into "awareness" the best I know how, and it seems to be working hehe.
Just felt like sharing, I felt I could relate in some way :).
I wish you all your hearts desires, peace out and namaste to all you beautiful people. |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 22 2008 : 3:16:05 PM
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:) that hit the spot, you are a kind soul Div.
and the hugging part is the best part to be exact, you get the feeling as if everything is that sweet divinity that sweet love and you just want to cherish and share that feeling of joy and bliss so you express it in the best way you know hugging saying a good word loving praying it's all good :).
namaste my brother,
and thk you for sharing this beautiful post. |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 24 2008 : 11:30:45 AM
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Hi Ananda
quote:
but this forhead chakra is really active now.
so it would be really nice if anyone here could share his knowledge or relate to what i'm going through and maybe give me some tips about what to expect and some info concerning the forhead chakra for example and i know it's a good thing but it would be nice to have some info on the matter and see the experiences of others at the same time and relate to them.
There are a number of minor charkas going in a line up from the third eye to the crown. The first is the 5th eye, and after that the 7th eye. Around the crown is a ring of minor charkas and the front one of these is the last in the row. The one you are feeling is probably the 5th eye. It is quite cool when it becomes active, but it doesn’t play a major part in the awakening game which is why it doesn’t get much of a mention. Barbera Brennon charts these charkas pretty well I believe in her book “Hands of Light”.
Christi
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 26 2008 : 2:34:23 PM
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hi Christy it's nice of you to drop by, and thk you for your post and i've read smthg about that chakra on the site www.swamij.com there is some talk about it over there but they to give it more importance than the ajna and with that i disagree.
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Edited by - Ananda on Jun 26 2008 6:33:40 PM |
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Jun 26 2008 : 3:34:52 PM
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| " but they to give it more importance than the ajna and with that i disagree." haha, I lol'd at that. I disagree too. More importance... haha. |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jun 26 2008 : 6:36:56 PM
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to each his own way of thinking, i laughed when i read your reply dea Div but with little guilt out of respect to others beliefs:
anyways here's the link:
http://www.swamij.com/kundalini-awakening-6.htm
kind regards |
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Christi
United Kingdom
4514 Posts |
Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 09:28:02 AM
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Hi Ananda,
I assume the text from that website is this part:
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Between ajna and sahasrara: From the ajna chakra at the eyebrow center, the journey is up the brahma nadi, an extension of the Sushumna channel. This may be first experienced in the dark field of mind as a black object, lingam, circle, or tunnel entrance. Along the journey to the sahasrara chakra at the crown of the head (also known as the thousand-petalled lotus or brahmarandra), there are other chakras, bindus (points), and levels of consciousness that are encountered and transcended. To go through these levels (called piercing the bindu) can seem like explosions or crashing through walls. If awareness does not stop at one of these points along the way, it comes to the union of the individual and the Absolute.
Forgive me if I am wrong, but I think you are confusing what the SwamiJ site call the ajna chakra, and what is normally called the "third eye". I believe the SwamiJ site treats the ajna chakra as being located in the centre of the head, very close to the pineal gland. So the minor chakras they are referring to are not located on the front of the skull above the third eye (which is what I was talking about above) but rather on the brahma nadi within the sushumna going in a straight line from the centre of the head, up.
The minor chakras on this line include the guru chakra, the nirvana chakra, and then above sahasrara is the brahmarundra, and the bindu point. They are of more major importance that the 5th and 7th eye above the forehead, and they do play an important role in the process of transformation.
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Ananda
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 10:34:30 AM
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i appreciate your point but this is what i was reffering to and what mislead me is the part concerning that the ajna is little knowledge and the guru chakra is a more important one and is higher knowledge and with that i simply disagree:
Guru chakra: Beyond the first six chakras, between there and the crown chakra, many other chakras, levels, or layers of reality are experienced. For the aspirant who is willing to do so, the guru chakra is used to purify the mind and to bring down spiritual truths. "Gu" means darkness and "ru" means light. Guru is the light that dispels the darkness of ignorance. Guru is not any person, although guru may operate through a person. Guru is actually the higher knowledge itself. Guru chakra is the doorway to that knowledge, to the wisdom and guidance of the teacher within. The sixth chakra, at the eyebrow center, is called ajna chakra, which includes "a" and "jna", which means the center without knowledge or with little knowledge ("a" is without and "jna" is knowledge). Guru chakra is experienced in the forehead, and is also called jnana chakra, or the center with knowledge. The knowledge of ajna is lower knowledge, while the knowledge of jnana is higher knowledge. The yogi invites all of the thoughts and samskaras to arise in the mind field of ajna chakra and offers them into the higher knowledge, the triangular shaped fire of guru or jnana chakra (Ajna and guru chakras are also called drikuti and trikuti respectively). From that process the pathway is cleared, and higher wisdom and teachings come down to the ajna. Eventually, awareness itself travels upward, receding through and beyond, to That which is the final abode, the Absolute, the union of Shiva and Shakti.
kind regards,
Ananda
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Anthem
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Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 10:44:49 AM
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Hi Christi,
That text you quoted above reminded me of an experience I had a few months ago unlike anything I have ever experienced before that really startled me. I was in deep sleep in the middle of the night and an explosion went off in the middle of my head of such intensity I thought either a- a star had exploded somewhere or b- I had experienced a stroke or something to that effect. I had trouble going back to sleep but eventually did. My mental faculties checked out normally the next day so any concern soon subsided., but I never cold fathom what I had experienced.
I thought to post it, to see if anyone else ever had a similar experience but figured we could speculate till the cows came home but never figure it out. Putting it out there in case anyone else has a similar experience.
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Jun 30 2008 : 5:11:58 PM
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| hmm, about that Guru Chakra, I'd just chunk up the "guru chakra" and "ajna" into one main chakra that either deals with stuff above it (crown) or stuff below it. I've heard of the crown and the third eye melting into one chakra though, I reckon this "guru" chakra is basically just that... just a third eye that's a little more in touch with the crown, and thus another "band" of energy is probably felt above it, and was named... the guru chakra. But really... I have no clue. I've only ever felt anything substantial (firey burning, prodding feelings, twitching... ) in the third eye area, and crown stuff in the crown. The area in between, I call... my forehead haha (for now...) |
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emc
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Posted - Jul 01 2008 : 11:57:31 AM
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Ananda, if you hadn't started this topic I would never have given it any thought, but lately I have noticed that during sambhavi (both in and out of practices, that is, during pranayma and meditation as well as when it happens spontaneously) they don't focus as low as they used to. They are drawn much higher up. I'd say the spot is at the hair line somewhere. I have felt much intensity there lately also. Thank you for bringing it up.
The 'guru chakra' that you mention is interesting, and another interesting thing is that I associate that name with another chakra that nandhi brought to my attention. See here: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....ID=2412#2412 A dear child has many names, and a dear name has many chakras... 
Anthem, your description of "a star exploded in the head" made me think of what happened to me lately during tantra... http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....=3933#34259I used a similar description - of "being inside a star". Don't know if there are any similarities to the experiences, though. I can only say it was extremely strong... and then there's this inability to write about the rest......
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 01 2008 : 1:49:05 PM
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Originally posted by Anthem11
Hi Christi,
That text you quoted above reminded me of an experience I had a few months ago unlike anything I have ever experienced before that really startled me. I was in deep sleep in the middle of the night and an explosion went off in the middle of my head of such intensity I thought either a- a star had exploded somewhere or b- I had experienced a stroke or something to that effect. I had trouble going back to sleep but eventually did. My mental faculties checked out normally the next day so any concern soon subsided., but I never cold fathom what I had experienced.
I thought to post it, to see if anyone else ever had a similar experience but figured we could speculate till the cows came home but never figure it out. Putting it out there in case anyone else has a similar experience.
dear Anthem, thk you for dropping by and i've had a similar explosion as well but in a different way i guess it might be some kind of an opening.
check this out:
http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....OPIC_ID=3991
namaste |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 01 2008 : 1:53:39 PM
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Originally posted by Divineis
hmm, about that Guru Chakra, I'd just chunk up the "guru chakra" and "ajna" into one main chakra that either deals with stuff above it (crown) or stuff below it. I've heard of the crown and the third eye melting into one chakra though, I reckon this "guru" chakra is basically just that... just a third eye that's a little more in touch with the crown, and thus another "band" of energy is probably felt above it, and was named... the guru chakra. But really... I have no clue. I've only ever felt anything substantial (firey burning, prodding feelings, twitching... ) in the third eye area, and crown stuff in the crown. The area in between, I call... my forehead haha (for now...)
hi Div as i'm speaking now i'm in kechari and i can feel it as it's all one concerning the front up back to the crown.
and yogani wasn't kidding when he said that from the third eye it's smooth sailing.
namaste |
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Ananda
3115 Posts |
Posted - Jul 01 2008 : 2:04:36 PM
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Originally posted by emc
Ananda, if you hadn't started this topic I would never have given it any thought, but lately I have noticed that during sambhavi (both in and out of practices, that is, during pranayma and meditation as well as when it happens spontaneously) they don't focus as low as they used to. They are drawn much higher up. I'd say the spot is at the hair line somewhere. I have felt much intensity there lately also. Thank you for bringing it up.
The 'guru chakra' that you mention is interesting, and another interesting thing is that I associate that name with another chakra that nandhi brought to my attention. See here: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....ID=2412#2412 A dear child has many names, and a dear name has many chakras...
Anthem, your description of "a star exploded in the head" made me think of what happened to me lately during tantra... http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....=3933#34259I used a similar description - of "being inside a star". Don't know if there are any similarities to the experiences, though. I can only say it was extremely strong... and then there's this inability to write about the rest......
hi emc,
i must admit i liked nandhi's subject thks for leading me to it, but there seems to be a difference in the place of the guru chakra i mentioned up there cz nandhi says it's above the navel.
and you're welcome and thk you for sharing your thoughts with us you are a kind soul.
namaste
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Edited by - Ananda on Jul 01 2008 2:26:46 PM |
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Divineis
Canada
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Posted - Jul 01 2008 : 11:35:30 PM
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| "and yogani wasn't kidding when he said that from the third eye it's smooth sailing." haha, maybe thats where I am... hehe |
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Ananda
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Posted - Jul 02 2008 : 03:52:47 AM
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| :) sweet Div, good to hear that. |
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