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111 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Mar 7, 2005 7:53pm
Subject: Prana in the air: Can you see it? nearoanoke
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Hi everyone,
Sometimes especially in broad daylight and on white/fluroscent
backgrounds, I see colorless white curvy thread like things moving
in the air before me. When I try to concentrate and look at them
they move away in the direction of my eye movement. When I move my
eyes left, they move left, when i move my eyes right they move
right.
When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air and
some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
any past life association with meditation?
Please shed some light on this
Thanks,
Near
113 From: "Mercurius Trismegistus" <magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 2:12am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? magisterium_magnum@sbcglobal.net
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> When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air and
> some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
> while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
> prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
> backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
> any past life association with meditation? Please shed some light on this
> Thanks, Near
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115 From: Clay <goatlove@khephera.net>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 0:36am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? contagion93
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On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:53:25AM -0000, nearoanoke wrote:
> When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air and
> some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
> while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
> prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
> backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
> any past life association with meditation?
What you're describing sounds more like eye floaters than prana,
orgone, or anything else. They're bits of cellular debris, protein,
and other cruft floating in the eye's vitreous body that occasionally
pass just behind the pupil, casting a shadow onto the retina. It's
because these object are *inside* your eyeball that they appear to
dart away from your focal point when you move your eye to get a better
look.
Most everyone who pays close enough attention will see floaters from
time to time, but seeing a lot of them (and "a lot" is an
intentionally loose term) can be indicative of chronic eye problems
(e.g. macular degeneration) that deserve medical attention.
Enjoy,
Clay
121 From: "David Fiske" <david.fiske@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 8:40am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? fiskedavid
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I think the answer given as floaters is probably correct. However
one can see things. I often see trees against a background of gold
colour. It is very ecstatic. It made me realise that trees are
rooted in the Divine.
love, david> What you're describing sounds more like eye floaters
than prana,
> orgone, or anything else. They're bits of cellular debris,
protein,
> and other cruft floating in the eye's vitreous body that
occasionally
> pass just behind the pupil, casting a shadow onto the retina. It's
> because these object are *inside* your eyeball that they appear to
> dart away from your focal point when you move your eye to get a
better
> look.
>
> Most everyone who pays close enough attention will see floaters
from
> time to time, but seeing a lot of them (and "a lot" is an
> intentionally loose term) can be indicative of chronic eye problems
> (e.g. macular degeneration) that deserve medical attention.
>
> Enjoy,
> Clay
133 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 9:56am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? nearoanoke
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Floaters make more sense to me. I thought it was something on my eye
ball thats causing this to happen (the way it moved when i move my
eyes made me think like this). Thanks for the explanation clay.
Near
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, Clay <goatlove@k...> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 12:53:25AM -0000, nearoanoke wrote:
> > When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air
and
> > some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only
sometimes
> > while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
> > prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
> > backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it
indicate
> > any past life association with meditation?
>
> What you're describing sounds more like eye floaters than prana,
> orgone, or anything else. They're bits of cellular debris,
protein,
> and other cruft floating in the eye's vitreous body that
occasionally
> pass just behind the pupil, casting a shadow onto the retina. It's
> because these object are *inside* your eyeball that they appear to
> dart away from your focal point when you move your eye to get a
better
> look.
>
> Most everyone who pays close enough attention will see floaters
from
> time to time, but seeing a lot of them (and "a lot" is an
> intentionally loose term) can be indicative of chronic eye problems
> (e.g. macular degeneration) that deserve medical attention.
>
> Enjoy,
> Clay
116 From: Vinod Haritwal <nikmo@vsnl.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 0:46am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? herbayur
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Near, I dont see the curvey threads so cant comment on them. I see a patch of tiny alternating green and black squares on an orange canvas. The squares vibrate constantly. I see them only after closing my eyes and can call them at will. The feeling is of deep peace.
Vinod
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From: nearoanoke
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Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 6:23 AM
Subject: [AYPforum] Prana in the air: Can you see it?
Hi everyone,
Sometimes especially in broad daylight and on white/fluroscent
backgrounds, I see colorless white curvy thread like things moving
in the air before me. When I try to concentrate and look at them
they move away in the direction of my eye movement. When I move my
eyes left, they move left, when i move my eyes right they move
right.
When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air and
some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
any past life association with meditation?
Please shed some light on this
Thanks,
Near
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122 From: Ashwin Sun <ashwinjlsun@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 9:30am
Subject: Re: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? ashwinjlsun
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Prana can be seen...and once you see it, it is hard to
ever forget its presence and appearance...
Namaste-
Ashwin
--- David Fiske <david.fiske@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I think the answer given as floaters is probably
> correct. However
> one can see things. I often see trees against a
> background of gold
> colour. It is very ecstatic. It made me realise that
> trees are
> rooted in the Divine.
> love, david> What you're describing sounds more like
> eye floaters
> than prana,
> > orgone, or anything else. They're bits of
> cellular debris,
> protein,
> > and other cruft floating in the eye's vitreous
> body that
> occasionally
> > pass just behind the pupil, casting a shadow onto
> the retina. It's
> > because these object are *inside* your eyeball
> that they appear to
> > dart away from your focal point when you move your
> eye to get a
> better
> > look.
> >
> > Most everyone who pays close enough attention will
> see floaters
> from
> > time to time, but seeing a lot of them (and "a
> lot" is an
> > intentionally loose term) can be indicative of
> chronic eye problems
> > (e.g. macular degeneration) that deserve medical
> attention.
> >
> > Enjoy,
> > Clay
>
>
>
>
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125 From: "Paula Youmans" <paula@webboise.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 10:08am
Subject: RE: Prana in the air: Can you see it? paula_youmans
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Hi near -
I have kind of a weird history with those white pixel-like
things. That doesn't mean that I know squat about
What they are or mean technically, but I do see them often.
When I first began to acknowledge these "things," I was in
college.about 17 or so, I had gotten into a habit
of falling asleep on the couch about midday. When I would wake, I'd lay
there for a while in a lucid state. When I would
Finally open my eyes, I could see the little lights flowing.spinning around
each other everywhere. At first I thought I was
having a flashback or something and shrugged it off. Over time, however,
those little things kept dancing around everywhere if I
bothered to look.
Once when I was little I asked my mom what the fuzz around
everyone was. She told me I was just seeing hair on them,
and being as young as I was I thought, "OK.everyone has about an inch or so
of hair that floats about them. Gross, but whatever."
Ironically, my first thought was that this was not anything like the hair
around people LOL. So really I began testing.could I see it fully
Awake.what if I pushed my eyes really hard with my fingers.*ouch* .no still
there, maybe they are little bugs, and so on.
A couple of years ago I read something that talked about prana
or "breath of god," and wondered if that was what I see. I still cannot
answer if that is what it is, but I was glad to read that I wasn't the only
weirdo who saw things like this. To answer some of your questions, I see it
every time I bother to look. It's like looking out a window.depending on how
I focus I either see what's beyond the window or if I look just right, the
window itself. Background doesn't matter at all.
In my mind I remember them always moving in a clockwise motion, but looking
just now I would have to say that it appears to flow in the direction of
energy.for example, horizontally through the window and then there's
somewhat of a puddle at the wall, etc.
Perhaps it is energy? That would explain why it accumulates
where you focus your attention. As I say this though, I can't help but think
"what isn't energy?"
Anyway, seems I have more questions than answers. I'm not sure what the
implications are regarding meditation and past life. I think it's just there
and if you bother to look then you can see it. I know that sounds weird, but
it is human nature to blind out what is right in front of our faces.
I wonder, is there a way to tell if it's prana? Why is it always easier to
tell what something isn't rather than what it is?
I would love to have light shed on this as well
(Ha-ha.oh the irony!)
Paula
Oh yeah, my eyes are fine. See an eye doctor about once a year.still perfect
vision no problems.
It is a good thing to get checked however, in part of your "testing" ;)
_____
From: nearoanoke [mailto:nearoanoke@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:53 PM
To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AYPforum] Prana in the air: Can you see it?
Hi everyone,
Sometimes especially in broad daylight and on white/fluroscent
backgrounds, I see colorless white curvy thread like things moving
in the air before me. When I try to concentrate and look at them
they move away in the direction of my eye movement. When I move my
eyes left, they move left, when i move my eyes right they move
right.
When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air and
some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
any past life association with meditation?
Please shed some light on this
Thanks,
Near
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126 From: "nearoanoke" <nearoanoke@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 10:29am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? nearoanoke
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Thanks for the reply paula. Good to know that there's some company
for me.
I see colorless curled thread like things. If I observe clearly,
they have pixels and stripes embedded in them. You can try one
thing. (anybody can try). Go near a white tube light with your eyes
close to it (around 1 feet distance). As you see the tubelight, you
can see these curled thread like things more clearly. Along with
these threads you can see individual pixels moving in the air too.
White backgrounds like the computer screen we are currently looking
at (yahoo group page which has white background) also make me see
these threads but tubelight has the highest effect. In daylight i
can see them whenever i want.
Hope it has some relation to past life meditation. lol. such things
are always good to hear :)
Near
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <paula@w...> wrote:
> Hi near -
>
>
>
> I have kind of a weird history with those white pixel-
like
> things. That doesn't mean that I know squat about
>
> What they are or mean technically, but I do see them often.
>
> When I first began to acknowledge these "things," I
was in
> college.about 17 or so, I had gotten into a habit
>
> of falling asleep on the couch about midday. When I would wake,
I'd lay
> there for a while in a lucid state. When I would
>
> Finally open my eyes, I could see the little lights
flowing.spinning around
> each other everywhere. At first I thought I was
>
> having a flashback or something and shrugged it off. Over time,
however,
> those little things kept dancing around everywhere if I
>
> bothered to look.
>
> Once when I was little I asked my mom what the fuzz
around
> everyone was. She told me I was just seeing hair on them,
>
> and being as young as I was I thought, "OK.everyone has about an
inch or so
> of hair that floats about them. Gross, but whatever."
>
> Ironically, my first thought was that this was not anything like
the hair
> around people LOL. So really I began testing.could I see it fully
>
> Awake.what if I pushed my eyes really hard with my
fingers.*ouch* .no still
> there, maybe they are little bugs, and so on.
>
> A couple of years ago I read something that talked
about prana
> or "breath of god," and wondered if that was what I see. I still
cannot
> answer if that is what it is, but I was glad to read that I wasn't
the only
> weirdo who saw things like this. To answer some of your questions,
I see it
> every time I bother to look. It's like looking out a
window.depending on how
> I focus I either see what's beyond the window or if I look just
right, the
> window itself. Background doesn't matter at all.
>
> In my mind I remember them always moving in a clockwise motion,
but looking
> just now I would have to say that it appears to flow in the
direction of
> energy.for example, horizontally through the window and then
there's
> somewhat of a puddle at the wall, etc.
>
> Perhaps it is energy? That would explain why it
accumulates
> where you focus your attention. As I say this though, I can't help
but think
> "what isn't energy?"
>
> Anyway, seems I have more questions than answers. I'm not sure
what the
> implications are regarding meditation and past life. I think it's
just there
> and if you bother to look then you can see it. I know that sounds
weird, but
> it is human nature to blind out what is right in front of our
faces.
>
>
>
> I wonder, is there a way to tell if it's prana? Why is it always
easier to
> tell what something isn't rather than what it is?
>
>
>
> I would love to have light shed on this as well
>
> (Ha-ha.oh the irony!)
>
>
>
> Paula
>
>
>
> Oh yeah, my eyes are fine. See an eye doctor about once a
year.still perfect
> vision no problems.
>
> It is a good thing to get checked however, in part of
your "testing" ;)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: nearoanoke [mailto:nearoanoke@y...]
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:53 PM
> To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AYPforum] Prana in the air: Can you see it?
>
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Sometimes especially in broad daylight and on white/fluroscent
> backgrounds, I see colorless white curvy thread like things moving
> in the air before me. When I try to concentrate and look at them
> they move away in the direction of my eye movement. When I move my
> eyes left, they move left, when i move my eyes right they move
> right.
>
> When I asked Yogani about this he told me it is prana in the air
and
> some ppl see it all the time, while some ppl see it only sometimes
> while some dont see at all. What are your experiences with this
> prana? Do you see it on any background or only white/fluroscent
> backgrounds and daylight? Being able to see them does it indicate
> any past life association with meditation?
>
> Please shed some light on this
> Thanks,
> Near
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
127 From: "Athena Janiszewski" <athena5250@rogers.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 10:51am
Subject: RE: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? soror_x2
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The string or hair-like filaments in the air, are to me, most likely
floaters, as someone has already pointed out.
When I see 'prana', it is like a thick static electricity in the air. It is
as if the air is dense, full of this sparkling, yet clear, energy. I notice
it most often after I have performed some ritual work, like chanting for a
very long, for example.I do not notice it while I am engaged in the
activity, unless part of the activity involves movement, such as tracing
stars in the air (I am a practising occultist as well).
Afterward though, the air is *packed*. In high energy situations, like a
concert in a small venue for example, this is also noticable. I was amused
to have a musician ask me about this recently, as I had never spoken of this
with him before and he is not engaged in anything even remotely close to
yoga or occultism.
In any case, I believe it is safer for us to err on the side of caution.
Seeing this stuff is only a side effect, far from the point. It is there, we
know it is, and so we move on.
L*,
Athena
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129 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 11:21am
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? nagoyasea
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Thank you Athena. Excellent point.
You wrote:
"In any case, I believe it is safer for us to err on the side of
caution. Seeing this stuff is only a side effect, far from the
point. It is there, we know it is, and so we move on."
Yogani mentions this in his lessons as well. So when I see lights,
or feel the energy radiating from my spine or up my spine as I
meditate, I gently return to my mantra, knowing it is only a side
effect of the practice...
Kathy
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "Athena Janiszewski"
<athena5250@r...> wrote:
> The string or hair-like filaments in the air, are to me, most
likely
> floaters, as someone has already pointed out.
>
> When I see 'prana', it is like a thick static electricity in the
air. It is
> as if the air is dense, full of this sparkling, yet clear, energy.
I notice
> it most often after I have performed some ritual work, like
chanting for a
> very long, for example.I do not notice it while I am engaged in the
> activity, unless part of the activity involves movement, such as
tracing
> stars in the air (I am a practising occultist as well).
>
> Afterward though, the air is *packed*. In high energy situations,
like a
> concert in a small venue for example, this is also noticable. I
was amused
> to have a musician ask me about this recently, as I had never
spoken of this
> with him before and he is not engaged in anything even remotely
close to
> yoga or occultism.
>
> In any case, I believe it is safer for us to err on the side of
caution.
> Seeing this stuff is only a side effect, far from the point. It is
there, we
> know it is, and so we move on.
>
> L*,
> Athena
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
135 From: "Paula Youmans" <paula@webboise.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 2:34pm
Subject: RE: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? paula_youmans
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Athena wrote:
I was amused to have a musician ask me about this recently, as I had never
spoken of this with him before and he is not engaged in anything even
remotely
close to yoga or occultism.
Hi Athena -
I remember when I first started being interested in spiritual matters,
someone had asked me if
I had ever meditated before. Thinking I hadn't I answered no. I played many
instruments growing up
And spent more time in an orchestra pit than I care to count. Now that I
have a few years of formal meditation under my belt, I realize that time I
spent playing music is and has been some of the best meditation I ever took
part in.
I never thought about it at the time, but it's almost like a mantra.The
conductor would begin the symphony and before a few measures had past I
wouldn't even be reading the notes and the room would disappear.
It was just a passing thought I had while reading about your friend; that he
might spend more time in a meditative state than he (or anyone else)
realizes.
~Paula
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197 From: "Paula Youmans" <paula@webboise.com>
Date: Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:32am
Subject: RE: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? paula_youmans
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Your welcome and I'm sure you have tons of company LOL.
I thought I had something else to say but my mind keeps going blank...
Ugh, what having a 4 month old in the house will do to you :p
~Paula
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From: nearoanoke [mailto:nearoanoke@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:29 AM
To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AYPforum] Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it?
*
Thanks for the reply paula. Good to know that there's some company
for me.
I see colorless curled thread like things. If I observe clearly,
they have pixels and stripes embedded in them. You can try one
thing. (anybody can try). Go near a white tube light with your eyes
close to it (around 1 feet distance). As you see the tubelight, you
can see these curled thread like things more clearly. Along with
these threads you can see individual pixels moving in the air too.
White backgrounds like the computer screen we are currently looking
at (yahoo group page which has white background) also make me see
these threads but tubelight has the highest effect. In daylight i
can see them whenever i want.
Hope it has some relation to past life meditation. lol. such things
are always good to hear :)
Near
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132 From: amyrose6@aol.com
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 8:35am
Subject: Re: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? caravan1212
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i have felt that energy..tingly feeling in the middle of my back from time
to time...but not during meditation or yoga or anything in particular...have
you ever heard of that?
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136 From: "Kathy" <nagoyasea@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Mar 8, 2005 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Prana in the air: Can you see it? nagoyasea
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Amy,
I can only speak for myself and I don't want to get off topic. Yes,
I have heard of this. I started having energy currents running up my
spine (always up) when I was about sixteen. I didn't know what it
was and never discussed it with anyone. Shortly after, I began
seeing things and hearing things before they actually came to pass
in this world, often in dreams.
I never understood it- it simply is. Later, I was drawn to yoga and
meditation and the energy currents occur during meditation and
sometimes as I rest.... As Yogani said, these are just side-effects
of our practice and perhaps it is best not to dwell on such things
that divert from our practices...
In light, life and love,
Kathy
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, amyrose6@a... wrote:
> i have felt that energy..tingly feeling in the middle of my back
from time
> to time...but not during meditation or yoga or anything in
particular...have
> you ever heard of that?
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