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gentlep
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 Posted - Jul 03 2007 : 5:02:10 PM
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| I once attended a talk titled "What is God?" by Mukundananda, a disciple of Kripaluji Maharaj. In that he mentioned God is nothing but sachidananda i.e. sat-chit-ananda (truth-beingness-bliss). Now if that's the definition of god, isn't that what AYP practice is leading us to. The truth, knowledge about Self and permanent bliss. Then how can you say you are an athiest? |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jul 03 2007 : 7:10:37 PM
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I agree.
I would bet that a lot of athiests just don't believe the definition of God that is put out there by so many organized western religions. And I agree with them on that.
So many religions claim some kind of exclusive connection to God. Then some say God is love, and love thine enemy. But if you don't follow "God's word", you will be tortured forever. No wonder there are so many athiests! |
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anthony574
USA
549 Posts |
Posted - Jul 04 2007 : 3:46:31 PM
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"Your brain is God"
-Timothy Leary
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gentlep
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 1:10:37 PM
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Originally posted by anthony574
"Your brain is God"
-Timothy Leary
:)
How do one interpret this? If this were to be true should one devote themselves to understand the brain? Now how about surrendering to the brain, that seems wierd. |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 8:09:42 PM
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I think that "revelation" was derived from taking psychedelic drugs. Since your brain interprets your perception, and drugs make radical uncontrollable adjustments to your perception, one can be fooled into thinking your brain is God.
The problem is, your brain is immersed in illusion, and drugs can't control whether you perceive illusion or truth. That is up to your bhakti and will, which can easily be put on hold by drugs. |
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anthony574
USA
549 Posts |
Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 8:32:37 PM
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| No, it is a quote that basically says that YOU are God, or rather one of the many manifestations of God. The brain in this case is a metaphor for You or your essence. |
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Kirtanman
USA
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Posted - Jul 05 2007 : 10:52:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by gentlep
I once attended a talk titled "What is God?" by Mukundananda, a disciple of Kripaluji Maharaj. In that he mentioned God is nothing but sachidananda i.e. sat-chit-ananda (truth-beingness-bliss). Now if that's the definition of god, isn't that what AYP practice is leading us to. The truth, knowledge about Self and permanent bliss. Then how can you say you are an athiest?
Hi Gentlep,
In my experience and awareness, one of the greatest obstacles to realization (awareness of your true nature, your true self) is belief.
Any belief.
"I believe in God" or "I don't believe in God" are both statements which keep the illusion of the ego-self in place. Prisoners and guards are both stuck in prison.
That's why the Bhagavad Gita says, "From attachment and aversion be freed" ... either attachment or aversion, toward a concept of God, or anything else, will keep you stuck in the illusion.
Yoga is not about belief, it is about practice.
Yoga allows you to know reality, to know yourself, and to not have to rely on anyone else's word regarding the nature of reality, or your self.
Hope this helps.
"Peace Out"; or rather "Peace IN",
Kirtanman |
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gentlep
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 12:11:00 AM
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| Thanks for your answer kirtanman. That was an intriguing thought. |
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Balance
USA
967 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 12:49:36 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by gentlep
I once attended a talk titled "What is God?" by Mukundananda, a disciple of Kripaluji Maharaj. In that he mentioned God is nothing but sachidananda i.e. sat-chit-ananda (truth-beingness-bliss). Now if that's the definition of god, isn't that what AYP practice is leading us to. The truth, knowledge about Self and permanent bliss. Then how can you say you are an athiest?
I am in agreement with Kirtanman about beliefs. Also from my experience I have seen that once the ball of beliefs is allowed to unravel down to the core then I see that I am left with nothing. The beliefs I had were based on thoughts I had held onto about everything and anything including what I believed God was. The only belief I can really validate for myself now is that I exist. Once the obstructions are cleared and there is nothing in the way then truth begins to be revealed about what is this. |
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yogibear
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Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 12:57:13 AM
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Originally posted by anthony574
"Your brain is God"
-Timothy Leary
:)
Hi Anthony,
Here is another way to conceptualize the brain:
"According to Jnana Yoga, the human being consists of three parts: body, mind and soul. The soul is the SELF, the never disappearing, eternally shining, divine spark which is liberated in death from its earthly envelope of dust and continues its existence on a higher plane. The mind is the seat of the emotional and instinctive life, a little storage house of instincts, and the subconscious little Self which connects the perfect immaterial soul with the imperfect material body.
In other words, the mind is the cloak of the soul, its semi-material, invisible garment, the storage battery of prana and cosmic rays, in contrast to our miraculously complicated, thoroughly material, precision radio transitter and receiver, the brain. This wonder instrument receives the animating love vibrations of the GREAT TRANSMITTER and, within its smaller range, enables us to contact and exhange thoughts with other human minds."
From Yoga and Health by Yesudian and Haich
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gumpi
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 06:27:36 AM
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| I am an atheist because AYP doesn't do anything for me. |
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lucidinterval1
USA
193 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 09:21:07 AM
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Originally posted by gumpi
I am an atheist because AYP doesn't do anything for me.
Why are you here then gumpi?
With Peace,
Paul |
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gumpi
United Kingdom
546 Posts |
Posted - Jul 06 2007 : 11:51:25 AM
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| Forgive me for sounding negative before. I am here because i know that God is but i don't have much tangible proof of it or i don't seem to want to know it. In any case, i have decided that Yogananda is my guru so i am going to follow his teachings now. |
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