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Etherfish

USA
3615 Posts

Posted - Jun 02 2007 :  09:59:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Iced Earth,

Sounds like you need self pacing, and I don't know how my headache technique affects self pacing.
But I'll give it to you and let you decide.
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When you have a headache:
Sit or lie in a quiet place (later you will be able to do it anywhere).
1)Imagine you are very small, and can travel inside your body.
2) Travel to where the pain is, and imagine what it looks like in there.
3) Put all your attention on the pain.
4) Imagine all your senses and their reaction to the pain.
5) Watch the pain. Ask yourself each sense separately:
What does the pain look like?
How big is it?
What color is it?
What shape is it?
What sound does it make?
How does it smell?
Is there a rhythm?
Any question you can think of that is a physical attribute. Treat the pain like it is a real, material object.
If nothing happens, start over, but something should happen, different for different people. The pain will often move, so don't be afraid of that. Just follow it and keep your attention on it. It won't go far, then it will disappear.

If your body has a physical reason for the pain, like a broken bone, the same pain will keep returning, maybe twice a day, even though you use this technique. That tells you there may be a physical reason.
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Etherfish

USA
3615 Posts

Posted - Jun 02 2007 :  8:52:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Iced Earth wants to know if this is likely to provoke energy overloads?

I'm not advanced enough to answer this. Anyone??
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IcedEarth

73 Posts

Posted - Jun 03 2007 :  03:10:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit IcedEarth's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The issue with that method is that it would require focusing on the ajna chakra for a minute..I tried it once, and the pain moved. But sometimes the headaches are like a halo around the front of my head.
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 03 2007 :  07:42:48 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Focusing on the halo around the front of your head shouldn't cause a problem, should it?
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IcedEarth

73 Posts

Posted - Jun 04 2007 :  07:18:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit IcedEarth's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I don´t know man... I´m going to experiment with it a little while.

I´m also going to try getting back into lifting weights. It makes the symptoms in my head worsen, but I think if I stick with it, eventually the energy will run its way through the muscles rather than stay in my head. If anyone has experimented with lifting weights during energy problems I´d like to know. The problem is the activity itself increases pressure in the head.
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weaver

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Posted - Jun 04 2007 :  09:55:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi IcedEarth,

I'm sure that the technique that Ether presented for ordinary headaches can be good for headaches, but if it hasn't been tested for head energy problems, then I think one should approach it with caution. One reason would be, as Jim has said many times, that focusing on anything brings energy there. So, it may work against you if you bring more energy into the head by "Putting all your attention on the pain". Also, "focusing on the halo around the front of your head" will bring more energy to that area, so you will have to think about if that is what you want.

If I were you, if I add things for relief of the energy symptoms, I would only try one thing at a time, and find out if it helps or worsens things. You have seen that the ball between your hand works, so I would stick with that and other things you have found that works. Weight lifting could possibly be good. The main reason would be that strenuous physical activity usually has a grounding effect. The pressure that it creates in the head is of a purely physical nature, so even if it feels similar to pressure caused by energy, it may or may not change the energy situation in the head.
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Sparkle

Ireland
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Posted - Jun 04 2007 :  10:32:34 AM  Show Profile  Visit Sparkle's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Some people might warn against this, and if so let them say it.

If it were me, and I have been in a head energy overload situation recently, I would allow my attention to rest in the head pressure, feel the halo and just allow the energy to go where it wants. For me it went up around the head and dispersed in a cone shape around the top of the head. After a couple of time doing this it didn't bother me any more.

But, as I said, some people here might have warnings about this.
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Jack

United Kingdom
305 Posts

Posted - Jun 05 2007 :  3:15:45 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.emofree.com/

Above is a link to EFT - Emotional Freedom Technique. It would be worth watching the video and downloading the free basic manual, and having a go at it.

Jack
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IcedEarth

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Posted - Jun 07 2007 :  12:59:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit IcedEarth's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey weaver, thanks for the input. I´ve only done a couple weight training sessions and it moved around a ton of stagnant energy in my head and body. I´m going continue with it, even though it makes the ringing in my ears louder and makes the headaches move around. I actually feel more sane and down to earth afterwards.

I read through the EFT manual and I tried it a couple of times. Real change happened after practicing it. I was in the park a couple hours later I felt unusually happy, as if something heavy had been lifted off my shoulders. It is an energetic practice so I am going to use it sparingly until I have a better idea of what it is doing. I´ll try using it after the energy ball exercise. Has anyone else had luck with the EFT technique? I remember seeing it a few months ago and thought it was some mumbo jumbo, but I found out that psychology specialists have been investigating these techniques.
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Jack

United Kingdom
305 Posts

Posted - Jun 07 2007 :  2:20:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit Jack's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey IcedEarth-

I am glad to hear you are having success with EFT. I have only just started working with it so have yet anything very exciting to report.
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riptiz

United Kingdom
741 Posts

Posted - Jun 07 2007 :  2:34:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit riptiz's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I have had success with EFT for various things. Working on others for fear of flying, myself for a nail biting habit, and recently on a bereavement client with great success.
L&L
Dave
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IcedEarth

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Posted - Jun 23 2007 :  07:34:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit IcedEarth's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings all. Bad news: things have gotten much worse, nearly as bad as they were four months ago when I started my trip. I did a few sessions of intense weight training, and after the one yesterday, I’m having extreme health problems, including: Insomnia, super energy surges in the head accompanied by loud shrieking noises in the ears, tension headaches, burning on the right side of the face, pinpoint pains in the head, nasal passage stuck in contraction, more loud ringing in the ears, buzzing/surging sensations in my head, and a few other similar, serious things.

Something is seriously not right here. Obviously my insistence on doing upper body weight training didn’t help, which I now know I must stop doing. Flexing my spine causes me major issues right now. I have to stick to running and walking because those are the activities that help me. I guess I could give swimming a try.

Another thing I’ve tried working with is the EFT method. It pretty much cures the pain in my eye, as well as feelings of depression, as well as temporarily stabilizing some of the other health problems, but sometimes they get worse later, especially before bed and during sleep. Not good, especially if I do it too many times in one day. It also definitely moves the headaches around in my head. I’m dealing with the issue of stuck energy.

On the good side, my outer world circumstances are about to improve. I’ll be done with exams this coming week, traveling, and my family will fly and join me here in Spain for a couple weeks. After that I return to the US and I will see my acupuncturist/alt. health practitioner and my chiropractor. Boy will they have a challenging case on their hands.

I’m having a hard time seeing how I’m going to get through all this, even though I’ve been told that I’m going to make it. I have been somewhat reluctant to seek help for these health issues because they were caused by yoga and I’ve felt guilty about doing this all this to myself. I hope this stuff is just temporary and I haven’t done permanent harm to myself, even though I’m afraid I might have. In the meantime, I’ve found the spiritual teaching of Eckhart Tolle to be helpful in holding myself together. This too shall pass…Right?
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thimus

53 Posts

Posted - Jun 25 2007 :  1:28:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit thimus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
About physical pain : here is a quote from Walking Meditation by Thich Nhat Hanh : "The Buddha said that when an arrow strikes the body, a feeling of pain arises. But when a second arrow strikes at the same spot, the pain is not just doubled but it is many times greater. The second arrow represents our fear and the stories we have (and make) about our physical pain. These can make us suffer a great deal more than physical pain alone".
When you have a returning pain : in Walking Meditation you mentally say :"I feel the pain, its ok. Welcome back old friend pain. I am here for you. I take care for you ...I comfort you by sending my breath (chi, prana) to relax you".
There is now a distance, a difference between you yourself and the pain ( area of pain). So you no longer make stories or doom-scenarios for yourself because of that pain. You comfort the pain like a child with your slow belly breath.
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IcedEarth

73 Posts

Posted - Jun 29 2007 :  5:15:20 PM  Show Profile  Visit IcedEarth's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hmm, thanks for the advice thimus. I haven´t heard it said exactly like that, but I can agree what the story implies. I´m trying some tension relaxation exercises that involved every part of the body. It involves doing eye exercises, mudras and tensing muscle groups and relaxing them. It is making my eye pains go away and smoothing out the energy flow in my body. I´m going to keep experimenting with it unless it give me big problems. It´s like it resets my nervous system. I hope I can continue to practice them because they are giving me physical and emotional relief.
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thimus

53 Posts

Posted - Jul 10 2007 :  05:31:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit thimus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
pain and suffering : here a nice thing : eckhart tolle :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aUjLiLiriA
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yogibear

409 Posts

Posted - Jul 10 2007 :  5:07:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link Thimus. Wow, he is really kick butt isn't he?
I like the way he thinks. I never thought of it quite that way before and it helped to clarify it, the media and the pain body, that is.
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