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Scott

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Posted - Apr 29 2007 :  8:48:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone noticed strange things about their blood, from doing yoga?

Anytime I enter a deep samadhi for a while and come out of it, then brush my teeth, my gums bleed pretty bad.

Etherfish

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Posted - Apr 29 2007 :  10:36:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably a coincidence, as bleeding gums is sign of a minor germ problem. I forget what
but my dentist talked about it.
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Scott

USA
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Posted - Apr 29 2007 :  11:40:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I originally assumed that was the case...or at least something similar. But this has been consistent the past month. My meditation schedule is sporadic (any time I feel like it, some days not at all). Brush my teeth usually 3 times a day, and the only time my gums actually bleed is after samadhi. And they bleed pretty bad! Another strange thing is that they stop bleeding within like 5 seconds.
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Jim and His Karma

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Posted - Apr 30 2007 :  10:46:47 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
You may be brushing harder and/or differently as a result of the more intense concentration and energy post-samadhi.
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Scott

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Posted - Apr 30 2007 :  12:12:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
That sounds legitimate, I'll pay more attention and see.
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riptiz

United Kingdom
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 :  1:02:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit riptiz's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Scott,
I find that sometimes during the cleansing times that my nose bleeds easily and of it's own accord.This was a problem years ago as a child but has reoccured now during cleansing.
L&L
Dave
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Scott

USA
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Posted - Apr 30 2007 :  1:32:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Same case for me, Dave. My nose would bleed often when I was young, for whatever reason. It stopped. But a few times after a very deep samadhi, my nose would bleed. It had the same phenomenon as the gums...the bleeding would stop very quickly. I was able to "snot-rocket" the bloody mucous out (sorry for the disgusting mental image) and it wouldn't bleed anymore, which is usually strange for a nose bleed.

Thanks for sharing.
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emc

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Posted - Mar 24 2008 :  4:18:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting to find this thread. I have started nose bleeding lately, particularly after meditation, and I have two hypothesis why this may be. What are your thoughts?


1. I associate it with starting to use the neti pot more regularly, getting very dry and sensitive mucous membranes in the nose from the salt. Perhaps wrong kind of salt? Used one with jod, have now switched to a clean salt without any extras. I started to use the neti pot to get rid of snot that has been a "left over" from the flu some weeks ago. So, very sensitive nose right now with some virus in as well... what can I do to ease the problem?

2. Perhaps I lack some mineral or vitamine due to a bad diet? Does anyone know what nose bleeding may be a sign of when it comes to lack of essential nutrients?

Grateful for any suggestions and thoughts...
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Scott

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Posted - Mar 24 2008 :  4:38:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Scott's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
As time has gone by, I've found that at least for me, it really is due to yogic purification.
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Nancy

USA
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Posted - Mar 26 2008 :  6:40:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Nancy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott
FYI Toothpaste with peroxide or Whitening Agents can have gums bleedou also

Do you bruise easily?
Nancy
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emc

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Posted - Mar 27 2008 :  04:57:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I bruise easily...
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Nancy

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Posted - Mar 27 2008 :  08:06:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit Nancy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
emc
Is your bruising eaisly, like someone at the dinner table taps you to pass the gravy and after you find the tap had left a bruise?

I had a blood problem a while back and it began as such
- Fatigued always
- Bruised easily, my body was covered in bruises
- My gums would bleed when I brushed my teeth, and when I went to the dentist for my normal cleaning, they had to stop due to the excessive bleeding from my gums.

If any of those problems occur, please dont write it off as to oh it's the meditation, which it very well can and may be. What can and may be also is that your platlett counts are very low that they are unable to clot your blood.
I would go to the Dr. and request a full CBC w diff - and do so fasting for best results.

In an attempt to save you from feeling unheard by your dr. I would say my symptoms, not that I think, it's hapening due to my meditation.

Personally, I believe it's KUNDALINI -

Having gone through a sponteneous Awakening
(not knowing back than)
4 months thereafter my blood issues began

Just another reason why qbody says STOP - TOO SOON - premature awakening can be dangerous)

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emc

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Posted - Mar 27 2008 :  08:28:26 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Nancy,

I do believe kundalini and energies can mess up the body quite well on it's own, as you mention. My problem is that I also live a very irregular life when it comes to food, exercise, sleep and to some extent also hygiene. Many reasons for that, often ending up in Catch 22 situations where the cure of one symptom would increase kundalini, so self-pacing stops the possible intervention to increase health etc etc... Almost all yogic practices for increasing health boosts energies, so at the moment it seems I am "forced" to a non-healthy and "muddy" life style or my kundalini symptoms quickly gets worse. So I have difficulties knowing what symptoms are due to an unhealthy life style, and what are only due to energies doing their job...

Lately symptoms have been piling up considerably simultaneously with an energy overload that has been going on for some months now. I now have a lot of minor uncomfortable symptoms of all kinds, and the latest being nose blood, gum bleeding and bruising - though not as easily as in you example, I just find myself having more bruises in strange places. I also have my period now and I have never bled this much ever!!! Gosh! It's pouring!

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Nancy

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Posted - Mar 27 2008 :  10:30:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Nancy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi emc
I hear you completely and am glad that you are aware of the varies possiblities - when I had my "stuff" going on I was completely ignorant to meditation - nonetheless Kundalini - I didnt even know such a word existed.
I cannot CAUTION you enough to go and get a blood count to see where your platlettes are at - regardless of where the issues are stemming from.
The main reason I am telling you so bluntly is not to create fear for you, because I am only telling you my experience. When I finally went to the Dr it got to the point where I was immediately transported to the hospital via ambulance from the dr.'s office - they didnt let me go home and pack - nor have my sister drive me to the hospital. A normal platlett count ranges from 150,000 - 400,000 - my count was 2. Not 200 not 2,000, it was 2, they said I was a walking bomb if I had the slightest tap on my head that I would of bleed internally and die. Then had to undergo 2 years of oral steroids which had me appear as a blow fish - then to succum to remove my spleen. I know you dont want a 2 year set back.

My menstral cycle was ridiculously heavy and was lasting 10 days. Another FYI - if you can completely soak up a pad from top to bottom and one end to the other within a 2 - 3 hour time frame you need to call your dr. immediately.

Personally many health issues subsided when I finally learned what was up - did a complete total body cleanse and added more nutrients to the body.
Especially with kundalini - she hurts a lot less ripping through a cleaner system. If we are blocked at a certain chakra point, she cannot go straight up,so she enters the body to look for him and literally creates "Hell Like" within.

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emc

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Posted - Mar 27 2008 :  3:34:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Nancy, gosh, it sounds like quite a ride you got there! I'm glad to know you're ok now.

I think you might have a great point in going to a doctor just to do a check up and take a blood test. I have recently gotten that message from another source as well, and synchronicity is seldom random... Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
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emc

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Posted - Apr 15 2008 :  3:49:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I took a blood test - nothing unusual!
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Propundit

USA
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Posted - Nov 24 2008 :  5:16:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit Propundit's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by emc

Interesting to find this thread. I have started nose bleeding lately, particularly after meditation, and I have two hypothesis why this may be. What are your thoughts?


1. I associate it with starting to use the neti pot more regularly, getting very dry and sensitive mucous membranes in the nose from the salt. Perhaps wrong kind of salt? Used one with jod, have now switched to a clean salt without any extras. I started to use the neti pot to get rid of snot that has been a "left over" from the flu some weeks ago. So, very sensitive nose right now with some virus in as well... what can I do to ease the problem?

2. Perhaps I lack some mineral or vitamine due to a bad diet? Does anyone know what nose bleeding may be a sign of when it comes to lack of essential nutrients?

Grateful for any suggestions and thoughts...



Yes, definitely do not use salt with Jod (Iodine). Also, you can vary the amount of salt:water, and reduce the frequency of neti if it gets too dry and bleeds. Also, if you live in a cold, dry climate, you may want to apply each day a small amount of oil to the insides of your nostrils or put a drop or two of oil in the neti pot. Sesame oil is good for me (vata, vata disturbances), ghee is good for everyone.
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emc

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Posted - Nov 14 2010 :  10:53:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Gotta come back to this topic and report!

The sensitiveness for bleeding, having gum bleeding and inflamations, and teeth problem - rottening teeth - was eventually followed by loosing a lot of hair, getting aches in muscles and joints etc... Feeling the body was not functioning well at all.

I went to take a proper check and found out that I was right in my first question - "Do I lack a vitamine or mineral?":

Lack of Calcium!

And in order to take up calcium we need D-vitamin and Magnesium.

Lack of calcium gives all the above symptoms. Bones get weeker, I already knew that, but I didn't know it could affect teeth, gum, hair, muscles and joints AND the coagulation of the blood. What a surprise!

I'm now filling up with all the vitamins and minerals and are curing my mouth problems with suberb herb medicins from Weleda.

Hopefully I don't have to make the tooth operation for millions of money, which also will lead to loss of nerves and sense of touch in the whole lower jaw.

Make sure you get all the nutrients! Don't do it my way! I had it suggested some years ago that I had a lack of calcium. Ate some extras then, and just forgot about it. Continued instead to eat as usual. Stupid! So there has been a deficiency for years... No wonder the body just went into catastrophy.

I don't know how fast you recover from it, but I'm feeling better already. Not loosing so much hair, and gum instantly better.

Edited by - emc on Nov 14 2010 12:04:27 PM
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swaha

Lebanon
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Posted - Nov 14 2010 :  12:28:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
hi emc ;)

yes...thank u for the reminder..
lack of calcium may lead to so many problems later on..
and we notice them once the damages are already acute..
in emergency cases like yours, one may have the necessary nutrients in the form of tablets ...
both my parents found out they have bone loss.. they started to take calcium and vita-D tablets..
i still prefer the "organic" way...whenever it is possible..
i mean daily 10-15 minutes of sun gazing/bathing (only hands/feet and face is enough) and a variety of food that is well known to contain calcium.. on the top of the list: dark green leafy veggies (kale is great) and nuts (walnuts, almond, cashew...)
instead of having dairies - which actually deplete the body of calcium - have a cup of sezame milk everyday.. u can add natural sweeteners to it (grain malts/syrups/molasses)..
sezame is a great source of calcium..
it is also important to mention that no matter how many nutrients we take in, if there is a poor absorption in the intestines, that may lead to poor blood quality..
personally, i did a colon hydrotherapy (1-2 sessions only) years ago..
before the session and after 2 months, they took a drop of blood and put it under the microscope..
the first test (prior the session) showed pale red blood and small cells, whereas the second test showed vivid red blood and full cells..
so it is important to find out the cause of the lack of calcium or poor quality blood..

great that you are getting positive results, emc...
wish you all the best

love

Edited by - swaha on Nov 14 2010 12:30:54 PM
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Deemo

USA
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Posted - Nov 29 2010 :  01:39:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Make sure you get your magnesium too (magnesium glycinate is good). Very very important. Even more important than calcium, as it's needed by the body to properly use calcium and is more likely to be depleted from the body. Take magnesium at a different time than calcium as they compete for absorbtion in the body if taken at the same time, making it less effective.

And at least 1000 units of vitamin d(3) which you already mentioned. Especially in the winter if there's less sunlight where you live. And eat foods high in these nutrients. Most dietary sources of vitamin d are non-vegetarian though. DHA and EPA are great too, which are found in fish oil and quality cod liver oil (which also has vitamin D). But it's very important to keep the body well nourished.
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ADLAI

USA
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Posted - Sep 27 2011 :  06:29:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by emc

I took a blood test - nothing unusual!



Yes I do agree with you friend, nothing is unusual.
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