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Phillip:
Hi Vil,

FYI, I don't think there is a better site than http://gnosticteachings.org/ . But also, feel free to ask anything here, sometimes a personal answer is much better.

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Originally posted by Doc

Greetings Chiron and Philip:

I hold no grudge against either of you. I also have no desire to engage the two of you in a 'my religion is better than your religion' debate and 'mud slinging' contest. In fact, quite sincerely, I feel great empathy and compassion for both of you. And I would like you to know that it saddens my heart to think that you apparently had an unpleasant 'church experience' or a hurtful religious upbringing, probably in a Christian church congregation of some kind.

Not outside Christianity looking in, as if trying to peer through darkly tinted glass, but from the inside where I am able to fully and clearly see the intrinsic value of everything within, I can tell you from direct and profound personal experience that Eastern Orthodox Christianity does in fact possess an 'Inner Circle' compilation of esoteric spiritual writings, teachings, and practices.

Traditionally, from the earliest days of Christianity, these materials and practices have been accessible to all Orthodox, but have been primarily preserved and perpetuated by monastics and ordained clergymen. This is because individuals in these two groups most often represent the majority of those who thirst for such Knowledge, Revelation, and Illumination.

I am such an individual, having been both a monk and a clergyman. Thus, I humbly speak on behalf of this 'hidden tradition' by posting on topics such as this one! It's a dirty job sometimes, but someone needs to do it!

I am not at liberty to openly discuss some things, but can freely comment on other topics at my own discretion. And I will gladly do so if there is an interest, but only if the Christian bashing ceases and desists on this thread.

Happy Holidays!

Doc

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Originally posted by Christi

Hi Philip,
I was just wondering how you know that Jesus of Nazareth was Master Aberamentho. Is this channeled information? If it is, do you know who channeled it?

Christi

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Jesus said unto his disciples: "Draw near unto me." And they drew near unto him. He turned himself towards the four corners of the world, said the great name over their heads, blessed them and breathed (Aleph) into their eyes.

Jesus said unto them: "Look up and see what you may see."

And they raised their eyes and saw a great, exceedingly mighty light, which no human being in the world can describe.

Jesus said unto them anew: "Look away out of the light and see what you may see."
They said: "We see fire, water, wine and blood."

Jesus, -- that is Aberamentho, -- said unto his disciples: "Amen, I say unto you: I have brought nothing into the world when I came, save this fire (Shin), this water (Mem), this wine (the overflowing of Divine blessing out of transmutation of the waters of Yesod) and this (purified) blood (by Nous). I have brought (from Schamayim) the water (Mem) and the fire (Shin) out of the region of the Light of the lights (the world of Atziluth) of the Treasury of the Light (Ain Soph Aur); and I have brought the wine (the overflowing of Divine blessing out of transmutation of the waters of Yesod) and the blood out of the region of Barbelo (the Ain Soph Aur, the Solar Absolute, the Sun, the Atom Nous in the Heart). And after a little while my father sent me the Holy Spirit in the shape of a dove.

'And the fire (Shin), the water (Mem) and the wine (of Alchemy) are for the purification of all the sins of the world (the Microcosmos, the human being). The blood on the other hand was for a sign unto me because of the (venom blood in the) human body which (becomes purified blood through the effluvia of the Atom Nous in the Heart which) I received in the region of Barbelo (the Ain Soph Aur, the Solar Absolute, the Sun, which is) the great power of the Invisible God (the Ain Soph, Aelohim or Adhi-Buddha). The breath (Aleph, the three Supernals in Atziluth) on the other hand advances towards all souls and will lead them unto the region of the Light.

"For this cause have I said unto you: "I am (Eheieh) come to cast fire (Shin) on the earth (Malkuth),' -- that is: I am (Eheieh) come to purify the sins of the world with fire (of Alchemy).

"And for this cause have I said to the Samaritan woman: 'If you knew of the gift of God, and who it is who say unto you: Give me to drink, -- you would beg of me, and I will give you living water (Schamayim), and there would be in you a spring (a Mem) which welled up for everlasting life.'

"And for this cause I took also (in Yesod, the Ninth Sphere) a cup (a Yoni, the Holy Grail) of wine (of Alchemy), blessed it and give it unto you and said: 'This is the blood (fire of the Ain Soph Aur) of the covenant (Perfect Matrimony) which (the Atom Nous) will be poured out for you (through scientific Chastity or sexual transmutation) for the forgiveness of your sins (Karma)."

'And for this cause they have also thrust (Shin, the fire through) the spear (the Iod) into my side (left ventricle of my heart), and (by means of sexual alchemy) there came forth water (Schamayim from the Mem in Yesod) and blood (Fire through the Atom Nous from the Mem above). "And these are the mysteries of the (Cross that hides the) Light which forgive sins; that is to say, these are the namings and the names of the Light (Iod, He, Vav, He)." - Pistis Sophia

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The narratives of the Doctrine are its cloak. The simple look only at the garment - that is, upon the narrative of the Doctrine; more they know not. The instructed, however, see not merely the cloak, but what the cloak covers. - The Zohar, iii.

The Mysteries of the Faith (are) not to be divulged to all ... It is requisite to hide in a mystery the wisdom spoken. - St. Clement of Alexandra, Stromateis

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The Hindu Lingham is identical with "Jacob's Pillar" -- most undeniably. But the difference, as said, seems to consist in that the esoteric significance of the Lingham was too truly sacred and metaphysical to be revealed to the profane and the vulgar; hence its superficial appearance was left to the speculations of the mob. Nor would the Aryan Hierophant and Brahmin, in their proud exclusiveness and the satisfaction of their knowledge, go to the trouble of concealing its primeval nakedness under cunningly devised fables; whereas the Rabbi, having interpreted the symbol to suit his own tendencies, had to veil the crude significance; and this served a double purpose -- that of keeping his secret to himself and of exalting himself in his supposed monotheism over the heathen, whom his Law commanded him to hate. A commandment now gladly accepted by the Christian too, in spite of another and later commandment -- "love each other." Both India and Egypt had and have their sacred lotuses, symbolic of the same "Holy of Holies" -- the Lotus growing in the water, a double feminine symbol -- the bearer of its own seed and root of all. Viraj and Horus are both male symbols, emanating from androgyne Nature, one from Brahma and his female counterpart Vach, the other, from Osiris and Isis -- never from the One infinite God. In the Judaeo-Christian systems it is different. Whereas the lotus, containing Brahma, the Universe, is shown growing out of Vishnu's navel, the Central point in the Waters of Infinite Space, and whereas Horus springs from the lotus of the Celestial Nile -- all these abstract pantheistic ideas are dwarfed and made terrestrially concrete in the Bible: one is almost inclined to say that in the esoteric they are grosser and still more anthropomorphic, than in their exoteric rendering. Take as an example the same symbol, even in its Christian application; the lilies in the hand of the Archangel Gabriel (Luke i. 28). In Hinduism -- the "Holy of Holies" is a universal abstraction, whose dramatis personae are Infinite Spirit and Nature; in Christian Judaism, it is a personal God, outside of that Nature, and the human Womb -- Eve, Sarah, etc., etc.; hence, an anthropomorphic phallic god, and his image -- man.

Thus it is maintained, that with regard to the contents of the Bible, one of two hypotheses has to be admitted. Either behind the symbolic substitute -- Jehovah -- there was the unknown, incognizable Diety, the Kabalistic Ain-Soph; or, the Jews have been from the beginning, no better than the dead-letter Lingham-** worshippers of the India of to-day. We say it was the former; and that, therefore, the secret or esoteric worship of the Jews was the same Pantheism that the Vedantin philosophers are reproached with to-day; Jehovah was a substitute for purposes of an exoteric national faith, and had no importance or reality in the eyes of the erudite priests and philosophers -- the Sadducees, the most refined as the most learned of all the Israelite sects, who stand as a living proof with their contemptuous rejection of every belief, save the LAW. For how could those who invented the stupendous scheme now known as the Bible, or their successors who knew, as all Kabalists do, that it was so invented for a popular blind -- how could they, we ask, feel reverence for such a phallic symbol and a NUMBER, as Jehovah is shown most undeniably to be in the Kabalistic works? How could anyone worthy of the name of a philosopher, and knowing the real secret meaning of their "pillar of Jacob," their Bethel, oil-anointed phalli, and their "Brazen Serpent," worship such a gross symbol, and minister unto it, seeing in it their "Covenant" -- the Lord Himself! Let the reader turn to Gemara Sanhedrin and judge. As various writers have shown, and as brutally stated in Hargrave Jennings' Phallicism (p. 67) "We know from the Jewish records that the Ark contained a table of stone. . . . that stone was phallic, and yet identical with the sacred name Jehovah . . . which written in unpointed Hebrew with four letters, is J-E-V-E or JHVH (the H being merely an aspirate and the same as E). This process leaves us the two letters I and V (in another form U); then if we place the I in the U we have the 'Holy of Holies'; we also have the Lingha and Yoni and Argha of the Hindus, the Isvara and 'supreme Lord'; and here we have the whole secret of its mystic and arc-celestial import, confirmed in itself by being identical with the Linyoni of the Ark of the Covenant."

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Ragon gives in his Maconnerie Occulte a very good illustration of the "hieroglyphical senary," as he calls our double equilateral triangle, [star of david image]. He shows it as the symbol of the commingling of the "philosophical three fires and the three waters, whence results the procreation of the elements of all things. The same idea is found in the Indian equilateral double triangle. For, though it is called in that country the sign of Vishnu, yet in truth it is the symbol of the Triad (or the Trimurti). For, even in the exoteric rendering, the lower triangle with the apex downward, is the symbol of Vishnu, the god of the moist principle and water ("Nara-yana," or the moving Principle in Nara, water;**) while the triangle, with its apex upward, is Siva, the Principle of Fire, symbolized by the triple flame in his hand. (See the bronze statue of Tripurantika Siva, "Mahadeva destroying Tripurasura," at the museum of the India House). It is these two interlaced triangles -- wrongly called "Solomon's seal," which also form the emblem of our Society -- that produce the Septenary and the Triad at one and the same time, and are the Decad, whatever way this sign is examined, as all the ten numbers are contained therein. For with a point in the middle or centre, thus it is a sevenfold sign; its triangles denote number 3; the two triangles show the presence of the binary; the triangles with the central point common to both yield the quaternary; the six points are the senary; and the central point, the unit; the quinary being traced by combination, as a compound of two triangles, the even number, and of three sides in each triangle, the first odd number. This is the reason why Pythagoras and the ancients made the number six sacred to Venus, since "the union of the two sexes, and the spagyrisation of matter by triads are necessary to develop the generative force, that prolific virtue and tendency to reproduction which is inherent in all bodies."

Belief in "Creators," or the personified Powers of Nature, is in truth no polytheism, but a philosophical necessity. Like all the other planets of our system, the Earth has seven Logoi -- the emanating rays of the one "Father-Ray" -- the PROTOGONOS, or the manifested "Logos" -- he who sacrifices his Esse (or flesh, the Universe) that the world may live and every creature therein have conscious being.

Numbers 3 and 4 are respectively male and female, Spirit and Matter, and their union is the emblem of life eternal in spirit on its ascending arc, and in matter as the ever resurrecting element -- by procreation and reproduction. The spiritual male line is vertical ; the differentiated matter-line is horizontal; the two forming the cross or [symbol of cross image].

http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena...sd2-2-12.htm

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In Tibetan Buddhism, especially if you look at the iconography of the deities with their consorts, you can see a lot of very explicit sexual symbolism which often gives the wrong impression. Actually, in this case the sexual organ is utilized, but the energy movement which is taking place is, in the end, fully controlled. The energy should never be let out. This energy must be controlled and eventually returned to other parts of the body. What is required for a Tantric practitioner is to develop the capacity to utilize one's faculties of bliss and the blissful experiences which are specifically generated due to the flow of regenerative fluids within one's own energy channels. It is crucial to have the ability to protect oneself from the fault of emission. It is not just a purely ordinary sexual act. And here we can see there is a kind of special connection with celibacy. Especially in the practice of the Kalachakra Tantra, this precept of protecting oneself from the emission of energy is considered to be very important. The Kalachakra literature mentions three types of blissful experience: one is the blissful experience induced by the flow of energy; one is the immutable blissful experience; and one is the mutable blissful experience. To me, when Buddha took the celibacy vow, at that level he did not explain all the reasons behind that rule or that discipline. The complete explanation comes when we know the Tantrayana system.
– The Fourteenth Dalai Lama, The Heart of the Buddha’s Path

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Chiron wrote:
I am not against the church and I am not against Christianity. I am against the beliefs of people who style themselves Christian yet do not follow Christ's teachings with their heart, and who do nothing to bring themselves closer to God. I am against the beliefs of fat priests who claim to represent God, yet they have not even beaten the most basic desire ie. hunger and the desire for taste. I have seen plenty of such priests in the Orthodox churches and on television and I have seen plenty of such people in the west also, from many religious denominations.

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we shall indeed be the change we wish to see in the world. :)

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Christi:
...everything in creation is perfect, and is happening for a reason

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Originally posted by VIL

Hey, Phillip, I have been researching Daath and the Abyss and was wondering if you could explain this as it relates to the Sephiroth of bodily experience.

Thank you,

VIL

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And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived... Gen 4:1

Adam knew his wife again; and she bore a son... Gen 4:25

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived... Gen 4:17

Behold new, I have two daughters which have not known a man... Gen 19:18

Four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male... Judges 21:12

Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing that I known not a man? Luke 1:34

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The harmonious march of a system of worlds depends on the cross - the magnetic point where the two forces (centrifugal and centripetal) are found equilibrated. Therefore, the power which supports the worlds is in that magnetic Cross of space.

A masculine cell (named zoosperm) is crossed with a feminine cell (named ovum) in order for the human entity, the outcome of this cross, to emerge. Consequently, the Human Being is the outcome of the crossing of a masculine zoosperm with the feminine ovum.

Nothing can come into existence without the power of the Cross.

The sincere and ideal shaking of hands crosses and harmonizes the mutual affection of two people. Therefore the Cross of the handshake originates the living affection between two souls.

Walking on the street, a handsome youngster finds an attractive damsel; they glance at each other, and from that prodigious, subtle and impalpable Cross (yet palpable in its magical power) affection, love, is born, which later organizes a home. Their Cross will produce astonishing effects, such as the multiplication of their species, the grandiosity of a country, and perhaps the birth of a new genius who will increase the progress of science or philosophy for the sake of the world. The magnetic crossing of two views shows and demonstrates that power is in the Cross.

A Seed is introduced within the earth and it crosses its power with the chemical elements which constitute the structure of the planet; thus, trees, flowers, fruits and new seeds are produced, which will eventually increase their species and multiply them ad infinitum. Therefore, the power is in their Cross.

Nothing new can exist, nor can the old be transformed without the Cross.

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/the...e-cross.html

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The Hebraic Kabbalists speak unto us about the mysterious Daath that appears in the Tree of Life, the Sephirah that has no designated divine name, nor Angelic host of any type, and that has neither a mundane sign, planet nor element.

Image Daath, the Sephirah of Hebrew Mystery, is produced by the Esoteric conjunction of Shiva-Shakti, Osiris-Isis, perpetually united in Yesod, the Foundation, the Ninth Sephirah, the Ninth Sphere, the sex, but hidden by the mysteries of Daath which has the Tantric knowledge, which is processed with the Sahaja Maithuna, or Sexual Magic, that when correctly utilized permits the Intimate Self-realization of the Being.

It is necessary that all of us profoundly reflect, that we deeply comprehend all of this. He and She are united in the Cubic Stone of Yesod, which is the sex. The perfect Tantric knowledge is the outcome of the union of He and She with which we can internally Self-realize ourselves in all the levels of the Being.

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/the...owledge.html

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And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads. The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold; And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

The land of Havilah is our own physical body, and the gold of this land is the solar atoms from our seminal system, that is to say, the semen’s potable gold.

And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

This second river is the Cephalo-Rachis liquid, which is the other pole of our seminal system. With it we encompass the whole land of Ethiopia, that is to say, the whole of our head and throat, since we form the brain and throat with the Cephalo-Rachis liquid.

And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates. (Genesis 2:10-14)

The river which goes toward the east of Assyria and the river Euphrates are the two poles of the woman’s seminal system. Therefore, the woman is towards the east of us, because she is the door of Paradise and this door is always towards the east. Eden is sex itself. Thus, the Tree of Life is within Eden itself. The great Hierophant Eliphas Levi said that the Great Magical Arcanum is the Tree of Life and that “at the foot of this Tree is the source of the four mysterious rivers of Eden.” Yet, he fearfully says in a moment of consternation: “Here I must pause, and I fear that already I have said too much.” This is the formidable, unutterable secret which no Initiate has ever dared to reveal. This is the formidable secret of the “Great Arcanum.” The four rivers of Eden are the sexual forces of man and woman. The Tree of Life is in the midst of these four rivers of Eden." - The Revolution of Beelzebub

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Originally posted by VIL

Phillip, thank you for taking your time with such an informative post. I'm very grateful!!



VIL

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Samael Aun Weor: So, you became amazed with my statement about the three brains? Well, comprehend me: We have the intellectual brain within the cranium. We also have the motor brain within the superior part of the dorsal spine, this is the capital centre of movements. And the emotional brain is within the solar plexus and other sympathetic centres. Did you understand me now?

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Given the claims of its proponents, a number of very serious and important questions arise. Namely, by whose spiritual authority should the Gnostic Teachings and Theology be accepted as the most authentic and accurate interpretations of Jewish and Christian Holy Scriptures and Biblical Symbolism? And who can be pointed out from the Gnostic Tradition as its Spiritual Luminaries....i.e. those who have personally achieved the Highest Levels of Spiritual Attainment in demonstration of the practical value and validity of the Gnostic Teachings and Methods?

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Saints such as: Saturninus of Antioch, the celebrated Kabbalist, belonged to the Primitive Christian Catholic Gnostic Church; Simon the Magician, who unfortunately deviated; Carpocrates, who founded several Gnostic convents in Spain; Marcion of Ponto, Saint Thomas, Saint Valentine; the Great Master of Major Mysteries called Saint Augustine; Tertullian; Saint Ambrose; Irenaeus; Hippolytus; Epiphanius; Clement of Alexandria; Mark, the Great Gnostic who took care of the Holy Gnostic Unction and left us the extraordinary teachings about the path of sexual forces through the twelve zodiacal doors of the human organism. Also Cerdon, Empedocles, Saint Geronimo and many other saints were members of the Primitive Christian Catholic Gnostic Church from which the current Roman sect deviated. - The Perfect Matrimony by Samael Aun Weor

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Very few people in any generation thus far have been willing to invest the kind of time and energy needed to pursue such overtly occult studies just for the sake of discovering whether any real spiritual benefits may or may not be forthcoming from the effort.

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This was a great find, as it relates to my experience/research of the REM State of consciousness during the wake state. I have more exploring to do and have to connect these centers with the chakra centers!

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Originally posted by Philip:

"The Gnostic Catholic Church is the original church founded by Jesus Christ, whose first pontiff was Peter."

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Phillip: There are three primary nervous systems:

1. Intellectual - Cerebrospinal Nervous System - Brain - Throne of The Father (+)
2. Emotional - Grand Sympathetic Nervous System - Heart - Throne of the Son (Heart) (-)
3. Motor-instinctive-sexual - Vagus or Parasympathetic - Sex - Throne of the Holy Spirit (=)

Every chakra has its relationship with all three. Each chakra does have a specific relation to a gland or organ, however. This is detailed in Fundamental Notions of Endocrinology and Criminology by Samael Aun Weor.

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