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LF.
United Kingdom
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 Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 08:40:39 AM
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hey,
I have been hearing voices about 6-8 years, and having visions, anyone I think of appears in front of me and start interacting with myself
I've tried yoga and read a few Yogani books and liked the energy,
Actual interaction seems far more helpful than Yoga, I have a long history of being isolated
All the figures I've read in my life are the ones that talk to me in Voice and Image
I see demonic imagery in the past and have seen inside my body many evil beings, I see a crocodile Eye in my left eye
All I want is some advice,
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fusions
Netherlands
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LF.
United Kingdom
31 Posts |
Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 11:44:34 AM
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| yes I found that interesting, but ultimately I'm looking for psychic understanding of my experience, some metaphysical knowledge, |
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LittleKid
USA
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yogani
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 1:11:54 PM
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Hi LF:
You may not like it, but here is the AYP advice on relationship with entities on the level of mind, from the point of view of yoga practices and evolving spiritual experience: http://www.aypsite.org/421.html
Sooner or later, we have to move beyond these things.
Your post reminds of the movie "A Beautiful Mind," about the famous mathematician, John Nash, who managed to move beyond his schizophrenia by systematically letting go of his hallucinations.
Not exactly how we do it in AYP, where the cultivation of abiding inner silence (transcendent witness) can take care of it as described in the lesson.
Nevertheless, the Nash story is a powerful testament on how we each choose our own reality.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
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LF.
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 14 2016 : 1:49:16 PM
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Originally posted by yogani
Hi LF:
You may not like it, but here is the AYP advice on relationship with entities on the level of mind, from the point of view of yoga practices and evolving spiritual experience: http://www.aypsite.org/421.html
Sooner or later, we have to move beyond these things.
Your post reminds of the movie "A Beautiful Mind," about the famous mathematician, John Nash, who managed to move beyond his schizophrenia by systematically letting go of his hallucinations.
Not exactly how we do it in AYP, where the cultivation of abiding inner silence (transcendent witness) can take care of it as described in the lesson.
Nevertheless, the Nash story is a powerful testament on how we each choose our own reality.
All the best!
The guru is in you.
Systematically letting go, it certainly is a skill, but the choice is severely limited, the voices won't give up it's been 24/7 for a couple of years, I'm on anti-psychotics |
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microcosm
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Posted - Jul 16 2016 : 2:52:16 PM
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Hi LF
I experienced psychosis. What helps (I'm still experiencing some symptoms) is not reacting to delusional material that shows up. I didn't experience voices, so can't say if this method going to be effective. I also noticed that stress causes unpleasant symptoms to arise.
This might be of interest too: https://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_l..._in_my_head?
I hope you get well 
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LF.
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 24 2016 : 07:22:21 AM
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Originally posted by microcosm
Hi LF
I experienced psychosis. What helps (I'm still experiencing some symptoms) is not reacting to delusional material that shows up. I didn't experience voices, so can't say if this method going to be effective. I also noticed that stress causes unpleasant symptoms to arise.
This might be of interest too: https://www.ted.com/talks/eleanor_l..._in_my_head?
I hope you get well
Thanks microcosm, I've seen her and didn't get much hope from Eleanor |
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Blanche
USA
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Posted - Jul 25 2016 : 8:55:59 PM
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Hello LF,
You are dealing with a serious challenge. As you know, we do not have immediate control over situations, but we do have control over the way we react to situations. I studied psychology, and a turning point in the way I think about psychosis happened in a psychiatry class. The professor, who was also the director of a large psychiatric hospital, told us the story of one of his patients who recovered from schizophrenia. This man, an engineer, was admitted to the hospital with serious auditory hallucinations. The voices were aggressive, telling him what to do. The man could not work; he could not have a normal life. The diagnostic: schizophrenia. As usual, that was followed by anti-psychotic medication and the expectation of a life-long psychiatric monitoring. Not a good perspective. But three months later, the man returned to his job and family life. Two years later, he seemed to be symptom-free, having a normal life. As the doctor was leading his patient out of the office, he said something like: “I have not seen many cases like yours, with a complete recovery. It is remarkable that the voices have never come back.”
“Oh, the voices,” answered the engineer, “the voices have been there all the time. I have just ignored them.”
I heard this story many years before “A Beautiful Mind” was published. The parallel is striking.
The way you described your hallucinations shows that you have the critical thinking to recognize that they are not real. They are a part of the mind. The mind is a powerful tool, the most powerful tool. But who you are is something beyond the mind. The mind is playing interfering games to stop you from seeing beyond it. The hallucinations are not real. Do not engage with them. Let them be. Do not reject and do not approve of them. The more you learn to ignore them, the more you are able to function – to be yourself and do what you need to do. I know this is hard. It takes a lot of discipline. Disciplining the mind is one of the hardest things. But what is the choice? This is the challenge given to you in this life. Of course, you should stay on the medication, and see a good psychiatrist, if possible someone who practices integrative psychiatry.
Another thing worth to mention is that psychotic symptoms decrease in intensity with age.
Wishing you the best!
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colours
Sweden
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Posted - Sep 29 2016 : 10:12:24 AM
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Hi LF!
I have the diagnosis of schizophrenia. When I understood that what I experienced was not real, I started to live a normal life again. I am not completely recovered, but I know now by fact that my experiences of voices and visions were and are not reality. It was the product of my illness, and of my mind.
Ignoring the experiences is actually not bad, but to have insight and realise that what you are experiencing is not real was for me the most important. Because when you start beliving that the symptoms are reality, and start acting upon them, that is when it starts to get dangerous I think.
Remember that the experiences are not real, nothing spiritual, and only a product of your mind...sometimes it helps to know that it has to do with "chemicals" in your brain, and this is how medicine works if I got it right.
It is more biology than spiritually really.
I wish you well, and recovery from your illness!
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Mountain
United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 29 2016 : 5:15:13 PM
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LF.
For starters, a complete recovery from psychosis/recurrent psychosis and even schizophrenia is not only possible but increasingly to be expected.
Please read this article by a PhD researcher to get a more hopeful (and truer) perspective:
http://brainblogger.com/2012/05/29/...hizophrenia/
The eminent Transpersonal Psychotherapist Ken Wilber describes Psychosis in his book "The Atman Project" as "...a true regression in service of the ego, followed by a progressive evolution to a healthier ego."
The best bit of advice. Surround yourself with supportive and uplifting people. It may take a long while, but this is the environment you deserve.
And, most importantly, get a good therapist! Preferably a transpersonal therapist who specialises in bodywork. S/He can support you to create a relationship with your inner personas, but more importantly, to help you become embodied (fully in the body less in the astral/imagination).
I wish you every Blessing on your Path. |
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LF.
United Kingdom
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Posted - Oct 20 2016 : 12:37:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mountain
LF.
For starters, a complete recovery from psychosis/recurrent psychosis and even schizophrenia is not only possible but increasingly to be expected.
Please read this article by a PhD researcher to get a more hopeful (and truer) perspective:
http://brainblogger.com/2012/05/29/...hizophrenia/
The eminent Transpersonal Psychotherapist Ken Wilber describes Psychosis in his book "The Atman Project" as "...a true regression in service of the ego, followed by a progressive evolution to a healthier ego."
The best bit of advice. Surround yourself with supportive and uplifting people. It may take a long while, but this is the environment you deserve.
And, most importantly, get a good therapist! Preferably a transpersonal therapist who specialises in bodywork. S/He can support you to create a relationship with your inner personas, but more importantly, to help you become embodied (fully in the body less in the astral/imagination).
I wish you every Blessing on your Path.
Thank you Mountain |
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microcosm
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Mountain
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jan 10 2018 : 1:00:27 PM
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Originally posted by microcosm
LF. ...Everything that lowers cerebral inflammation also helps, like ketogenic diet - check it out
I second this. Ketogenic diet starts the healing. See the GAPS Diet by Dr Natasha Campbell-McBride. It is a ketogenic elimination diet specially designed to heal psychiatric conditions. I would imagine it may take a little while in the case of chronic and severe schizophrenia, but it does work.
On the GAPS diet, the gut lining is healed and sealed; and the guts re-inoculated with beneficial bacteria. Once this happens, the brain's neurochemistry will finally settle and start to heal. In time, meditation can be resumed to clear out the subtle mind and subtle body.
The gross (physical) body needs to be taken care of first before the subtle body and subtle mind can be healed in meditation.
The hardest thing I found, was giving up sugar, grains and (cow's) dairy ...oh and reducing alcohol consumption. That is where a little Bhakti come in 
Fermented foods (full of beneficial bacteria) are delicious though! |
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