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reidmantra
United Arab Emirates
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 Posted - Jan 20 2016 : 4:48:54 PM
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Thank you Sunyata. I want to support you or anyone else that needs it on this forum. Thank you for assuring me that I can still ask questions even though they may be the same ones over and over just worded a little differently. I want to learn how to hear from, learn from, and trust my inner guru who at this point in the process is buried under a mountain of self-doubt, fear, and a heaping helping of insecurity. Like you said though, its a process and as I continue to meditate and pray I will (over time) change, strengthen, grow, and heal. - Reidmantra   |
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lalow33
USA
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Posted - Jan 20 2016 : 5:32:28 PM
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| This has turned out to be a beautiful thread. I hope I wasn't projecting on you, Reidmantra. If you are like me, you'll see it again and again. It'll eventually be dropped. You don't have to force it to be dropped. Meditation and Samyama will surely help. |
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sunyata
USA
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Posted - Jan 20 2016 : 6:15:59 PM
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| Awesome Redimantra! Looking into the fear, insecurity will be the doorway to peace. Even though it may not seem so at this point. |
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Jayleno214
USA
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Posted - Jan 20 2016 : 6:33:41 PM
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Oh ok, if i disregard the fuzzy variable in the instructions then im golden. The mantra is ecstatic for me then. I listen to its sound over and over (over thoughts and observations /analysis) and little by little the feeling of its vibrational effect from head to root is felt.
@reidmantra the sound of ayam is what you need to repeat. Forget about the losing the mantra and about subtleness and fuzzyness. Just bring that sound back over and over. Youll feel its effects as soon as you clean the obstructions enough.
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Jayleno214
USA
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Posted - Jan 20 2016 : 6:39:42 PM
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I agree 150% with the truth of sunyatas statement about insecurity being the key to peace, but it's a byproduct of inner silence (i dont relate to that description though, id liken it to a presence) so dont mind it, it will be there when its there and no need to think about it when its not.  |
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Dennis
USA
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Posted - Jan 21 2016 : 01:59:22 AM
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For what it's worth, when I took TM a long time ago, I was told to repeat the mantra and each time repeat it softer and softer (quieter and quieter) until it was almost impercepable (or fuzzy as said here). I do it this way and it helps me go into deeper states. I know TM and DM are similar so I wonder if this technique is applicable to DM as well.
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SeySorciere
Seychelles
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Posted - Jan 21 2016 : 04:55:30 AM
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Originally posted by Jayleno214
Oh ok, if i disregard the fuzzy variable in the instructions then im golden. The mantra is ecstatic for me then. I listen to its sound over and over (over thoughts and observations /analysis) and little by little the feeling of its vibrational effect from head to root is felt.
That, dear Jayleno, is the fuzziest level!! When you lose the mantra after you were feeling its vibration - do NOT re-start the mantra with loud and clear pronunciation. Pick up the feeling of the vibration again.
Sey
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