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681 From: "manchalas80" <manchalas80@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:50pm
Subject: Prevention of loss of sexual energy manchalas80
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Hi,
Can you guys tell me some effective ways that you avoid loss of vital
fluid? I read tantra lessons but feel that it is hard to prevent
myself
from masturbating. Are there any control or discipline mechanisms
that
you guys use to prevent those kind of thoughts?
if you are not willing to post to the group you can reply to my id
privately. greatly appreciate your help, i am finding it really hard
to
stop myself from masturbating.
thanks,
suresh
683 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Prevention of loss of sexual energy vic
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My thoughts are that stopping from releasing sexual fluids could be seen as not wanting to exhale in pranayama. In pranayama practice you learn to be sensitive and to gently over time lengthen the breath. I believe that this is a good approach to teh sexual cycle. If you tend to masturbate every day try to go two days without and then reward yourself. Maybe work your way up to a week gradually. Once you have gotten to a week you will likely feel the benefits of building up a sexual charge. AT that point when a week is comfortable you can choose. You know what charged and discharged feel like and are able to make a personal choice on how long you want to go. You can practice masturbation without ejaculation but that works for some and not for others. For saome its best not to deliberately stimulate. its a personal thing. In my opinion going one week or more is healthy and fine and not to be worried about. You can certainly go for longer periods and some do but it should never be by
force of will but be a natural desire to enjoy that feeling of energy that comes from it. It is better to practice moderation than to be a "horny celibate" so be aware and sensitive to yoru opwn state. Be moderate and don't rush, thats my advice. Hope it helps.
manchalas80 <manchalas80@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
Can you guys tell me some effective ways that you avoid loss of vital
fluid? I read tantra lessons but feel that it is hard to prevent
myself
from masturbating. Are there any control or discipline mechanisms
that
you guys use to prevent those kind of thoughts?
if you are not willing to post to the group you can reply to my id
privately. greatly appreciate your help, i am finding it really hard
to
stop myself from masturbating.
thanks,
suresh
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690 From: Gavin Meyers <gavinemeyers@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:20am
Subject: Re: Prevention of loss of sexual energy--Transmutation of Sexual energy gavinemeyers
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I agree with victor in that you should practice moderation.
There is however a technique to transmute sex energy to the heart and brain and that is very simple. Transmuting sex energy is a better way of managing sexual urges than prevention. Sex energy is powerful, so don't fight it, just give it another direction to go. Normally this direction is downwards. Transmutation directs this energy upwards.
The technique is as follows:
1) Just INHALE and EXHALE DEEPLY when you become sexually excited or whenever you feel the need to masturbate.
2) With the Inhalation imagine sex energy from the bottom of the spine going up to the heart and then to the brain, then retain the breath for a few seconds.
3)During retention,imagine that sex energy is being transmuted into creative spiritual energy, then Exhale.
By conserving sexual energy and then transmuting it we reap many benefits.
There are also a few asanas that regulate the sex urge.
1. Sirsasana - the head stand
2. Sarvangasana - the shoulder stand
3. Paschimotasana
4. Kandasana
5. Raja Kapotasana
If you are doing these asanas Please refer to "Light on Yoga" by B.K.S Iyengar. and do it precisely according to his instructions as given in this book.
Hope this is helpful to you.
victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
My thoughts are that stopping from releasing sexual fluids could be seen as not wanting to exhale in pranayama. In pranayama practice you learn to be sensitive and to gently over time lengthen the breath. I believe that this is a good approach to teh sexual cycle. If you tend to masturbate every day try to go two days without and then reward yourself. Maybe work your way up to a week gradually. Once you have gotten to a week you will likely feel the benefits of building up a sexual charge. AT that point when a week is comfortable you can choose. You know what charged and discharged feel like and are able to make a personal choice on how long you want to go. You can practice masturbation without ejaculation but that works for some and not for others. For saome its best not to deliberately stimulate. its a personal thing. In my opinion going one week or more is healthy and fine and not to be worried about. You can certainly go for longer periods and some do but it should never be by
force of will but be a natural desire to enjoy that feeling of energy that comes from it. It is better to practice moderation than to be a "horny celibate" so be aware and sensitive to yoru opwn state. Be moderate and don't rush, thats my advice. Hope it helps.
manchalas80 <manchalas80@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
Can you guys tell me some effective ways that you avoid loss of vital
fluid? I read tantra lessons but feel that it is hard to prevent
myself
from masturbating. Are there any control or discipline mechanisms
that
you guys use to prevent those kind of thoughts?
if you are not willing to post to the group you can reply to my id
privately. greatly appreciate your help, i am finding it really hard
to
stop myself from masturbating.
thanks,
suresh
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719 From: "PRIYADARSHAN PRADHAN" <priyadnp@gmail.com>
Date: Fri Apr 15, 2005 8:49am
Subject: Re: Prevention of loss of sexual energy--Transmutation of Sexual energy priyadnp
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you may wish to see swami sivananda's [divine life society] book on bhramacharya. there may be a free download available.
http://www.sivananda.org/yogastore/
http://www.thedivinelifesociety.org/download/
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Subject: Re: [AYPforum] Prevention of loss of sexual energy--Transmutation of Sexual energy
I agree with victor in that you should practice moderation.
There is however a technique to transmute sex energy to the heart and brain and that is very simple. Transmuting sex energy is a better way of managing sexual urges than prevention. Sex energy is powerful, so don't fight it, just give it another direction to go. Normally this direction is downwards. Transmutation directs this energy upwards.
The technique is as follows:
1) Just INHALE and EXHALE DEEPLY when you become sexually excited or whenever you feel the need to masturbate.
2) With the Inhalation imagine sex energy from the bottom of the spine going up to the heart and then to the brain, then retain the breath for a few seconds.
3)During retention,imagine that sex energy is being transmuted into creative spiritual energy, then Exhale.
By conserving sexual energy and then transmuting it we reap many benefits.
There are also a few asanas that regulate the sex urge.
1. Sirsasana - the head stand
2. Sarvangasana - the shoulder stand
3. Paschimotasana
4. Kandasana
5. Raja Kapotasana
If you are doing these asanas Please refer to "Light on Yoga" by B.K.S Iyengar. and do it precisely according to his instructions as given in this book.
Hope this is helpful to you.
victor yj <vic@yahoo.com> wrote:
My thoughts are that stopping from releasing sexual fluids could be seen as not wanting to exhale in pranayama. In pranayama practice you learn to be sensitive and to gently over time lengthen the breath. I believe that this is a good approach to teh sexual cycle. If you tend to masturbate every day try to go two days without and then reward yourself. Maybe work your way up to a week gradually. Once you have gotten to a week you will likely feel the benefits of building up a sexual charge. AT that point when a week is comfortable you can choose. You know what charged and discharged feel like and are able to make a personal choice on how long you want to go. You can practice masturbation without ejaculation but that works for some and not for others. For saome its best not to deliberately stimulate. its a personal thing. In my opinion going one week or more is healthy and fine and not to be worried about. You can certainly go for longer periods and some do but it should never be by
force of will but be a natural desire to enjoy that feeling of energy that comes from it. It is better to practice moderation than to be a "horny celibate" so be aware and sensitive to yoru opwn state. Be moderate and don't rush, thats my advice. Hope it helps.
manchalas80 <manchalas80@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
Can you guys tell me some effective ways that you avoid loss of vital
fluid? I read tantra lessons but feel that it is hard to prevent
myself
from masturbating. Are there any control or discipline mechanisms
that
you guys use to prevent those kind of thoughts?
if you are not willing to post to the group you can reply to my id
privately. greatly appreciate your help, i am finding it really hard
to
stop myself from masturbating.
thanks,
suresh
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685 From: Dharma Mitra <dharmamitra2@gmail.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:30pm
Subject: Re: Prevention of loss of sexual energy bravenewdawn
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Hello Suresh,
Longing for infinity and the propensity for sexual intimacy and mutual
union are essentially related and consequently share reflection in our
bodies. The phsycho-physical reason we don't want to ejaculate, even
when having sex without intending to generate new life, is that the
vital air, the vaiyu(sp), that discharges release is also the vaiyu
that raises the kundalini and facilitates our capacity to jump, known
in english chinese yoga as the 'thrusting meridian'.
Part of pratyahara, one of the ten elements of yama and niyama,
essential in both practicing and achieving yoga, is to quiet the motor
organs, which includes the genitals, and to quiet the vital airs,
including the thrusting meridian, and quiet the mind, so that by force
of nature and guided by our single-minded affinity for the center of
the universe and the cosmic homeostasis of universal love, we arrive
at our desideratum through the threshold of the eighth limb of
ashtanga yoga, samadhi.
How do we quell this vibrantly life expressing sexuality of joy and
communion with others? First of all, we control the valve(s) through
which it expresses, then we control the chakra(s) through which it is
expressed, then direct our thoughts towards our desideratum so that
the strengths, the siddhis that carry us to our desidertum will
fulfill our purpose and carry us to our OM.
After pubesence, many of us will find a pleasure and release, a
satisfaction when and after we've taken a piss, walking away without
questioning it. Why? Because the nerves and channel of fluid for
pissing are shared with orgasmic release, and this pathway is
stimulated ever time we piss, while we retain fluid in our bladders,
and remains with us after we've pissed, for in reality, if you stand
to piss, there's more fluid retained in the pathway of its exit.
Thus, one of the first things to do is to sit to piss, more urine will
exit the body, and you'll find this urine is much thicker than the pee
that precedes it. The solids in that thicker piss will also aggravate
the bladder more, the urethera and the prostate and surrounding
nerves, making you more sexually excited than is circumstantially
relevant in life, such that even if you don't have any more orgasms,
you'll still be wasting energy through that chakra and the fertile
waters that would have risen to shower the blessings and virtues upon
the higher chakras, organs and glands will have been denied throughout
your life.
Food gets converted to vital juices, first sukra, which creates blood,
then lympth supporting the blood and giving the organs and the body
its lustre, then the excess of lymph becomes sexual fluids, first
seminal fluid, a term used for both women and men, and then sperm or
eggs. Men produce billons of sperm cells and deliver billions per
orgasm, while women expell the single cell of an egg along with
feminine semen during their periods. In just a short moment, a man
will expell billions of life-producing cells, thus the reason why a
man will be tired after an orgasm. The vital life of an embryo and
resulting child is greatly determined by the vitality of the sperm.
In rough approximation, a healthy diet will produce enough excess
vital juices for four orgasms per lunar cycle for men or women, plus
her ovulation.
The excess of semen and sperm/egg vital juices gets converted into
spinal fluid, and from that to brain food. A man skilled at
preserving his semen may often find that he not only sees, through his
subtler vision, undulating snakes resembling his sperm swimming
wherever he looks, he can and will also develop occult intuititive
faculties, especially when he conscientiously practices yama and
niyama sincerely.
A post pubescent man should pee from a sitting position, assuring that
all the fluids destined for departure are released by pouring cold
water from the navel down after releasing what seems to be all the
urine. Substantially more urine will pass after pouring the water and
will feel and appear quite thicker than the urine that preceded it
just a moment before. This should also be done, even when there is
not an impending need or desire to pee, before eating, sleeping,
studying, meditating and doing asanas, or at other times before,
during and after psyhic or physical exertion, and before journeys
during which long periods before the next opportunity of a comfort
station, water closet or fertile moment in nature.
Asanas twice a day will surely assist in reducing excess sexual
stimulation. Those that assure greater flexibility from the waist
down may assist in reducing the tightness in that area that can
eventually search for release through orgasm, while of particular
success in controlling excess desire is the cowshead pose, done with
the prescribed leg crossover, done on both sides, 30 seconds each and
at least four sets. Another unintentional stimulant is in not fully
evacuating the bowels, thus putting, at times, undue pressure on the
prostate and surrounding area. Billows pose, mixed with crocodile
pose, will help alleviate a sluggish lower bowel, along with other
relevant asanas.
When taking a bath, pouring cold water from the navel down helps much
too, along with taking cooler baths than you may currently be used to,
especally starting and ending those baths with much cooler water. On
your head this will also delay or prevent hair loss, not to mention
help you maintain more sublime thoughts.
Firmly tight underwear, not boxer shorts, can assist in both keeping
vital juices within your body and reduce excess stimulation.
Thus, in brief, what to do to control excess sexual desire includes:
- pee while sitting down
- pour cold water from the navel down every time
- pee this way before eating, sleeping, meditating, exercising,
studying, reading, bathing and when an excess desire for an orgasm
stirs within your loins
- proper asanas twice a day, including cowshead pose and hip-loosening asanas
- tighter knickers, snugly fitting
- minimize or eliminate spicily hot foods, especially onions and garlic
- remember always that your attraction to anyone is a longing for
infinity to share in subtle realms, of which sexual release is a small
fraction of that satisfaction yet can be greatly exhausting and is not
always necesseary for mutual bonding
- learn of and remember always love from the heart, instead of from der pecker
On 4/12/05, manchalas80 <manchalas80@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Can you guys tell me some effective ways that you avoid loss of vital
> fluid? I read tantra lessons but feel that it is hard to prevent
> myself
> from masturbating. Are there any control or discipline mechanisms
> that
> you guys use to prevent those kind of thoughts?
>
> if you are not willing to post to the group you can reply to my id
> privately. greatly appreciate your help, i am finding it really hard
> to
> stop myself from masturbating.
>
> thanks,
> suresh
>
>
> For the AYP Lessons and Books, go to:
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