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662 From: "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:16pm
Subject: sitting meditation left_freedom
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Hi All,
I have been sitting in meditation for almost 4 years now and I feel I have
not made much progress in the art of sitting. I find the largest obstacle to
my meditation is sitting comfortably. Does anyone have a good regimen of
yoga asanas, tips hints help to be able to sit comfortably for extended
periods. My main goal is to be able to do full lotus but I would be
extremely happy if I can build up to be able to sit for 1 hour straight in
the male accomplished pose or any cross legged pose would be great. Your
help is much appreciated.
God Bless
Lefti
668 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 0:47am
Subject: Re: sitting meditation jim_and_his_...
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Hi, Lefti
Many of us are also longtime meditators with only so-so results. But the practice we're
gathered here to discuss - "Advanced Yoga Practices" - breaks though a lot of barriers,
and a lot of people are making great progress with it. The practice includes extensive
instructions on sitting, and because it actively discourages meditating for longer than 20
minutes, there's no need to work up to 60 minutes in a seated pose.
You may want to read through the lessons that comprise the practice and see if it rings
your bells. If so, I'd strongly suggestion you cease other practices and just work on these
for a while; mixing and matching isn't a great idea. Start here: http://www.geocities.com/
advancedyogapractices/index.html and read the "Main Lessons".
If my answer isn't useful to you, bear in mind there are myriad web sites devoted to hatha
yoga which can surely help you with sitting poses generally. This particular forum is about
this specific practice.
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I have been sitting in meditation for almost 4 years now and I feel I have
> not made much progress in the art of sitting. I find the largest obstacle to
> my meditation is sitting comfortably. Does anyone have a good regimen of
> yoga asanas, tips hints help to be able to sit comfortably for extended
> periods. My main goal is to be able to do full lotus but I would be
> extremely happy if I can build up to be able to sit for 1 hour straight in
> the male accomplished pose or any cross legged pose would be great. Your
> help is much appreciated.
>
> God Bless
>
> Lefti
675 From: "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 0:42pm
Subject: RE: Re: sitting meditation left_freedom
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for the info. Yes these lessons seem to be great. I will try and work
through the lessons as best I can and witness the effects of them. Do you
have any comments on the spinal breath? That is it seems similar to the
taoist microcosmic orbit, however it seems like the spinal breath is only
half a revolution. Is there any difference between the two and their results
or effects. Thanks.
Regards,
Lefti
>From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
>To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [AYPforum] Re: sitting meditation
>Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:47:56 -0000
>
>
>
>Hi, Lefti
>
>Many of us are also longtime meditators with only so-so results. But the
>practice we're
>gathered here to discuss - "Advanced Yoga Practices" - breaks though a lot
>of barriers,
>and a lot of people are making great progress with it. The practice
>includes extensive
>instructions on sitting, and because it actively discourages meditating for
>longer than 20
>minutes, there's no need to work up to 60 minutes in a seated pose.
>
>You may want to read through the lessons that comprise the practice and see
>if it rings
>your bells. If so, I'd strongly suggestion you cease other practices and
>just work on these
>for a while; mixing and matching isn't a great idea. Start here:
>http://www.geocities.com/
>advancedyogapractices/index.html and read the "Main Lessons".
>
>If my answer isn't useful to you, bear in mind there are myriad web sites
>devoted to hatha
>yoga which can surely help you with sitting poses generally. This
>particular forum is about
>this specific practice.
>
>
>
>
>--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@h...>
>wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I have been sitting in meditation for almost 4 years now and I feel I
>have
> > not made much progress in the art of sitting. I find the largest
>obstacle to
> > my meditation is sitting comfortably. Does anyone have a good regimen of
> > yoga asanas, tips hints help to be able to sit comfortably for extended
> > periods. My main goal is to be able to do full lotus but I would be
> > extremely happy if I can build up to be able to sit for 1 hour straight
>in
> > the male accomplished pose or any cross legged pose would be great. Your
> > help is much appreciated.
> >
> > God Bless
> >
> > Lefti
>
>
>
>
>
>
677 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:15pm
Subject: Re: sitting meditation jim_and_his_...
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Lefti, they're different in approach, though it's all the same in the end. See just below for a
discussion of this. Basically (and I say this as a wiseass) it's best not to be too much of a
wiseass. Don't mix and match concepts/traditions/practices/mappings which were
developed in different places. They're all geared to get you to the same place, but all the
trains don't run on the same tracks, and the details don't really matter much anyway.
Microcosmic Orbit is great practice. AYP is great practice. They both work, but they're not
mutually compatible. Choose the one that speaks most to you and hunker down for a few
years. Better to dig one deep well than a hundred shallow ones, etc.
Anyway, that's just my suggestion, FWIW. I'm not some all-knowing enlightened being,
just some dude working on stuff like you and everyone else here.
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
> Thanks for the info. Yes these lessons seem to be great. I will try and work
> through the lessons as best I can and witness the effects of them. Do you
> have any comments on the spinal breath? That is it seems similar to the
> taoist microcosmic orbit, however it seems like the spinal breath is only
> half a revolution. Is there any difference between the two and their results
> or effects. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Lefti
>
> >From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@y...>
> >Reply-To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> >To: AYPforum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [AYPforum] Re: sitting meditation
> >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:47:56 -0000
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi, Lefti
> >
> >Many of us are also longtime meditators with only so-so results. But the
> >practice we're
> >gathered here to discuss - "Advanced Yoga Practices" - breaks though a lot
> >of barriers,
> >and a lot of people are making great progress with it. The practice
> >includes extensive
> >instructions on sitting, and because it actively discourages meditating for
> >longer than 20
> >minutes, there's no need to work up to 60 minutes in a seated pose.
> >
> >You may want to read through the lessons that comprise the practice and see
> >if it rings
> >your bells. If so, I'd strongly suggestion you cease other practices and
> >just work on these
> >for a while; mixing and matching isn't a great idea. Start here:
> >http://www.geocities.com/
> >advancedyogapractices/index.html and read the "Main Lessons".
> >
> >If my answer isn't useful to you, bear in mind there are myriad web sites
> >devoted to hatha
> >yoga which can surely help you with sitting poses generally. This
> >particular forum is about
> >this specific practice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "el stamatakos" <el_stamatakos@h...>
> >wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > I have been sitting in meditation for almost 4 years now and I feel I
> >have
> > > not made much progress in the art of sitting. I find the largest
> >obstacle to
> > > my meditation is sitting comfortably. Does anyone have a good regimen of
> > > yoga asanas, tips hints help to be able to sit comfortably for extended
> > > periods. My main goal is to be able to do full lotus but I would be
> > > extremely happy if I can build up to be able to sit for 1 hour straight
> >in
> > > the male accomplished pose or any cross legged pose would be great. Your
> > > help is much appreciated.
> > >
> > > God Bless
> > >
> > > Lefti
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