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Posted - Jul 07 2005 : 5:55:42 PM
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560 From: "sifbear" <sifbear@yahoo.com> Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:55am Subject: Approaches to dealing with the monkey mind sifbear Offline Send Email A lot of the posts about dealing with monkey mind/chattering mind/not- the-mantra approach the mind as an adversary to be vanquished. This approach works well for many, but I have had more success with a gentler approach. It works better for me to think of the mind as a puppy or a child that needs gentle, loving, guidance and discipline. Rather than yelling at it and punishing it, I prefer a chuckle and gentle re-direct. 568 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com> Date: Wed Mar 30, 2005 2:43pm Subject: Re: Approaches to dealing with the monkey mind jim_and_his_... Offline Send Email You cannot do battle with the mind. Because battle is itself the provence of the mind. The fight's rigged; both combatants are on the same side. You can spend decades uncovering and analyzing the tricks and levels and loops and gambits and guiles. In the end, it's endless fascination and distraction - the two things the mind is expert in producing - and utterly non-effectual. The uncoverer and analyzer are products of the mind, as well.
All you can do is let it do is let the mind do its thing and spin its webs while you summarily opt out.
Guiding the mind gently and lovingly and with discipline is a fine way to live apart from in meditation. But if you're meditating, youv'e got to stop dancing with it. Don't dance slow and sweet, and dont' dance hot and dirty. Either way, it's mind dancing with mind. Your mind produces the "I" that you describe as being gently in charge! Just stop dancing and find out who you really are.
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote: > > > A lot of the posts about dealing with monkey mind/chattering mind/not- > the-mantra approach the mind as an adversary to be vanquished. This > approach works well for many, but I have had more success with a > gentler approach. It works better for me to think of the mind as a > puppy or a child that needs gentle, loving, guidance and discipline. > Rather than yelling at it and punishing it, I prefer a chuckle and > gentle re-direct.
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