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Random_By_Choice

USA
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Posted - Oct 26 2012 :  1:11:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
Anulom Vilom 100 breaths
Kapalbhati 100 breaths
Spinal Breathing 100 breaths
I AM mantra 20 minutes

*Finish with Anulom Vilom if I get too hot.

For physical exercise, I ride a recumbent stationary bike for 1-3hrs/day, and I'm slowing training myself to jog by jogging for only 10 minutes a day.

k123

118 Posts

Posted - Oct 26 2012 :  1:43:10 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome to the forum. I will leave it to someone with more experience to answer your question, but wanted to say hello and welcome
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Random_By_Choice

USA
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Posted - Oct 26 2012 :  3:03:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks k123!
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mr_anderson

USA
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Posted - Oct 26 2012 :  3:37:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit mr_anderson's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there Random by Choice,

I'm not overly familiar with Anulom V and Kapalbhati pranayamas.

However, adding these pranayamas to the SBP and Deep meditation is not AYP, and I would say practicing this much pranayama could cause serious overload, if not being altogether dangerous.

With AYP, we don't aim to forcefully awaken kundalini overnight or in a super-rapid timeframe. You can google the horror stories from when people have had premature kundalini awakenings as a result of unbalanced practice routines. They're not pretty, and can lead to serious debilitating health problems or even death in very rare circumstances.

"Ramnavami, a senior teacher at the Sivananda Yoga Mumbai Centre for 25 years, trained at the Bihar School of Yoga. She suffers from epilepsy. In 1987, her guru, Swami Satyananda, forbade her from performing Kapalbhati. She does not teach it to her students. “The benefits are not important, it is the contraindications that are important. It can lead to heart problems, high blood pressure, vertigo, hernia, epilepsy and related brain problems. If students insist they want to learn, we teach them to do it gently, for 20-30 counts. These 200-1,000 count sessions are not advisable,” she says."

From the article is Kapalbhati killing you? http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/154...ing-you.html

SBP and Deep Meditation are already extremely powerful practices - but balanced ones, that lead to efficient and sustainable practice and the most ecological outcome for the practitioner over a long period of time. It's a marathon, not a sprint, as Yogani says.

I don't think it's likely to lead to a pleasant outcome for you adding more pranayamas to an already powerful routine. My advice: proceed with extreme caution at your own risk.

Welcome to the forums and wish you all the best with your practices.

love,

Josh
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Random_By_Choice

USA
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Posted - Oct 26 2012 :  4:43:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mr. Anderson.

I have experienced the bad side of doing to much kapalbhati. I like it because it gives such a great charge.

I will stick to SBP and the I AM mantra.

I will use Anulom Vilom prescriptively, like before I have to sit in front of the computer and write an article or do any other type of work that requires concentration.
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ramandra

United Kingdom
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Posted - Dec 29 2012 :  4:03:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Random_By_Choice

Anulom Vilom 100 breaths
Kapalbhati 100 breaths
Spinal Breathing 100 breaths
I AM mantra 20 minutes

*Finish with Anulom Vilom if I get too hot.

For physical exercise, I ride a recumbent stationary bike for 1-3hrs/day, and I'm slowing training myself to jog by jogging for only 10 minutes a day.



I have some thoughts on this, but your post is not very specific. For instance, you do not say how long you are taking for the outbreath and inbreaths during your alternate breathings. My general advice would be to slowly develop your strength in Anulom Vilom until you experiment with other types of breathing. Can you do a cycle of 20/10 seconds continuously for an hour with ease? You should experience an increase in bodily temperature after a short time if you are doing it correctly in normal room temperature. Have you experienced an automatic rigidity stage? Once you are comfortable with that (1hr as described) then I would suggest adding retention of breath (khumbhaka).

In this way you build up your strength for more advanced practices. These can indeed be connected with kundalini, but beware of striving with 'lust of result.'
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SeySorciere

Seychelles
1553 Posts

Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  02:23:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The question that always come to my mind with such questions is What are you trying to achieve ? Awaken kundalini ? For what purpose? What do you believe you will get out of it?

Kind regards,

Sey
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  5:31:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Kundalini can be awakened by lots of different practices; it's different for each person. Awakening kundalini is not a good goal in itself; it happens along the path sometimes. Yogani explains it all in his lessons and books.

His techniques are meant to guide us along the path quickly and safely, which may include kundalini awakening.

see "main lessons" above and book links on this page.
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SeySorciere

Seychelles
1553 Posts

Posted - Jan 03 2013 :  03:52:31 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly Etherfish. So if one understands what the person is trying to achieve, then one can better assist with guidance - if what s/he is doing will serve his/her purpose.

I get the impression from reading these threads that some want to awaken kundalini to be used as a substitute for drugs (get the same buzz); others as a substitute for viagra; others to gain magical powers and some to grow spiritually.

Sey
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jeff

USA
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Posted - Jan 03 2013 :  09:30:02 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi RBC,

Kundalini is awakened by quieting the mind. K slips in during those moments. Any (or no) practice can help with quieting the mind, it depends on the practioner.

Enjoy the moment.

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