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503 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:17pm
Subject: Fading Conductivity in Pranayama jim_and_his_...
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R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled down to start from the
beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite scary.....all better now). I'm
being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no mulha banda, no third eye
stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice and stable and relaxed
before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins of pranayama. I don't think
it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd assumed that it was
dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up and down (and had been
replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow furrowing every few
breaths).
But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have thought it would just fade
further still!
I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank heaven for years and years
of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay attention to it and work
through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch your leg crossings every
other time you sit.
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
>
>
> --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I do run
> over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity which
> was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working. Many
> years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had symptoms
> rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially paralysed
> on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> experiences with ARP.
>
> Blessings R.C.
510 From: "azaz932001" <richardchamberlin14@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:36pm
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama azaz932001
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---> Hi Jim
Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med. Sometimes
the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When this
happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the attention.
Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something to
the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down the
spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to feel
anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its working,
but it probably is anyway.
Blessings R.C.
> R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
>
> As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled down
to start from the
> beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
scary.....all better now). I'm
> being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no mulha
banda, no third eye
> stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice
and stable and relaxed
> before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
>
> I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins of
pranayama. I don't think
> it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd
assumed that it was
> dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up and
down (and had been
> replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow
furrowing every few
> breaths).
> But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
thought it would just fade
> further still!
>
> I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
heaven for years and years
> of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
attention to it and work
> through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch
your leg crossings every
> other time you sit.
>
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I do
run
> > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
which
> > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
Many
> > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
symptoms
> > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
paralysed
> > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > experiences with ARP.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
515 From: "sifbear" <sifbear@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:27am
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama sifbear
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Hi, Folks,
On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
(http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but the
concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
Sifbear
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
<richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
>
>
> ---> Hi Jim
>
> Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
Sometimes
> the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
this
> happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the attention.
>
> Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something to
> the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
the
> spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to feel
> anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its working,
> but it probably is anyway.
>
> Blessings R.C.
>
> > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> >
> > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
down
> to start from the
> > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> scary.....all better now). I'm
> > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
mulha
> banda, no third eye
> > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice
> and stable and relaxed
> > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> >
> > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins
of
> pranayama. I don't think
> > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd
> assumed that it was
> > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
and
> down (and had been
> > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow
> furrowing every few
> > breaths).
> > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> thought it would just fade
> > further still!
> >
> > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> heaven for years and years
> > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> attention to it and work
> > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch
> your leg crossings every
> > other time you sit.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I
do
> run
> > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
> which
> > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
> Many
> > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> symptoms
> > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> paralysed
> > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > experiences with ARP.
> > >
> > > Blessings R.C.
516 From: "quickstudy05" <quickstudy05@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:59am
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama quickstudy05
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The AYP lessons concur on the smoothing out effect in the nadis. See
lesson 95, "stabilizing ecstasy."
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/95
...and lesson 235, "blending inner silence and ecstasy."
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/235
Also, search on "friction" to find more lessons on this.
http://www.geocities.com/advancedyo...s/SiteSearch
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Folks,
> On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
> (http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
> mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
> body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
> objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but
the
> concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
> if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
> diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
>
> Sifbear
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---> Hi Jim
> >
> > Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> > Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
> Sometimes
> > the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
> this
> > happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> > conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the
attention.
> >
> > Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something
to
> > the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
> the
> > spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to
feel
> > anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its
working,
> > but it probably is anyway.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
> >
> > > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> > >
> > > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
> down
> > to start from the
> > > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> > scary.....all better now). I'm
> > > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
> mulha
> > banda, no third eye
> > > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get
nice
> > and stable and relaxed
> > > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> > >
> > > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10
mins
> of
> > pranayama. I don't think
> > > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up.
I'd
> > assumed that it was
> > > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
> and
> > down (and had been
> > > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and
brow
> > furrowing every few
> > > breaths).
> > > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> > thought it would just fade
> > > further still!
> > >
> > > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> > heaven for years and years
> > > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> > attention to it and work
> > > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to
switch
> > your leg crossings every
> > > other time you sit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although
I
> do
> > run
> > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic
conductivity
> > which
> > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I
welcome
> > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is
working.
> > Many
> > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> > symptoms
> > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> > paralysed
> > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings R.C.
519 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:57pm
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama jim_and_his_...
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Thanks much, I'll read thru all tonight. I missed a lot, because I originally came in at the
middle. I've since started from the beginning, but haven't gotten up to #95 in my close
reading yet, because I'm trying to stay simple and easy. I wish Yogani would reorder the
lessons; as-is, there's much basic info near the end that maybe should go earlier.
thanks again,
Jim and his need to read
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "quickstudy05" <quickstudy05@y...> wrote:
>
> The AYP lessons concur on the smoothing out effect in the nadis. See
> lesson 95, "stabilizing ecstasy."
>
> http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/95
>
> ...and lesson 235, "blending inner silence and ecstasy."
>
> http://www.geocities.com/advancedyogapractices/235
>
> Also, search on "friction" to find more lessons on this.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/advancedyo...s/SiteSearch
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Folks,
> > On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
> > (http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
> > mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
> > body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
> > objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but
> the
> > concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
> > if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
> > diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
> >
> > Sifbear
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ---> Hi Jim
> > >
> > > Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> > > Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
> > Sometimes
> > > the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
> > this
> > > happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> > > conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the
> attention.
> > >
> > > Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something
> to
> > > the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
> > the
> > > spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to
> feel
> > > anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its
> working,
> > > but it probably is anyway.
> > >
> > > Blessings R.C.
> > >
> > > > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> > > >
> > > > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
> > down
> > > to start from the
> > > > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> > > scary.....all better now). I'm
> > > > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
> > mulha
> > > banda, no third eye
> > > > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get
> nice
> > > and stable and relaxed
> > > > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> > > >
> > > > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10
> mins
> > of
> > > pranayama. I don't think
> > > > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up.
> I'd
> > > assumed that it was
> > > > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
> > and
> > > down (and had been
> > > > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and
> brow
> > > furrowing every few
> > > > breaths).
> > > > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> > > thought it would just fade
> > > > further still!
> > > >
> > > > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> > > heaven for years and years
> > > > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> > > attention to it and work
> > > > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to
> switch
> > > your leg crossings every
> > > > other time you sit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although
> I
> > do
> > > run
> > > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic
> conductivity
> > > which
> > > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I
> welcome
> > > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is
> working.
> > > Many
> > > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> > > symptoms
> > > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> > > paralysed
> > > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Blessings R.C.
518 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 1:53pm
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama jim_and_his_...
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Yes, indeed; the fireworks are, apparently, the result of impurities. But reduction of that is
a slow, long term process. Whereas every time I sit down, I notice less and less energy as
the pranayama proceeds (both from the fireworks and also by subtler perceptions). Mabye
my solution - to refresh via a judicious couple of mulha bandhas and sambhavi mudras -
is indeed the way to go. In fact, I'm finding that those additions are not bringing back any
negative kundalini symptoms, so I may fairly soon make them constants in my pranayama.
The question is....where's the energy going?
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Folks,
> On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
> (http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
> mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
> body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
> objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but the
> concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
> if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
> diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
>
> Sifbear
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---> Hi Jim
> >
> > Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> > Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
> Sometimes
> > the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
> this
> > happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> > conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the attention.
> >
> > Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something to
> > the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
> the
> > spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to feel
> > anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its working,
> > but it probably is anyway.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
> >
> > > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> > >
> > > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
> down
> > to start from the
> > > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> > scary.....all better now). I'm
> > > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
> mulha
> > banda, no third eye
> > > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice
> > and stable and relaxed
> > > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> > >
> > > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins
> of
> > pranayama. I don't think
> > > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd
> > assumed that it was
> > > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
> and
> > down (and had been
> > > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow
> > furrowing every few
> > > breaths).
> > > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> > thought it would just fade
> > > further still!
> > >
> > > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> > heaven for years and years
> > > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> > attention to it and work
> > > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch
> > your leg crossings every
> > > other time you sit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I
> do
> > run
> > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
> > which
> > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
> > Many
> > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> > symptoms
> > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> > paralysed
> > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings R.C.
522 From: victor yj <vic@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:57pm
Subject: Re: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama vic
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Jim, maybe be attentive your sexual cycle. the seminal energy is the "fuel" for tis extatic conductivity. Too much fuel depletion would cause exactly what you speak of.
jim_and_his_karma <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yes, indeed; the fireworks are, apparently, the result of impurities. But reduction of that is
a slow, long term process. Whereas every time I sit down, I notice less and less energy as
the pranayama proceeds (both from the fireworks and also by subtler perceptions). Mabye
my solution - to refresh via a judicious couple of mulha bandhas and sambhavi mudras -
is indeed the way to go. In fact, I'm finding that those additions are not bringing back any
negative kundalini symptoms, so I may fairly soon make them constants in my pranayama.
The question is....where's the energy going?
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, Folks,
> On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
> (http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
> mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
> body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
> objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but the
> concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
> if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
> diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
>
> Sifbear
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---> Hi Jim
> >
> > Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> > Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
> Sometimes
> > the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
> this
> > happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> > conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the attention.
> >
> > Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something to
> > the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
> the
> > spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to feel
> > anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its working,
> > but it probably is anyway.
> >
> > Blessings R.C.
> >
> > > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> > >
> > > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
> down
> > to start from the
> > > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> > scary.....all better now). I'm
> > > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
> mulha
> > banda, no third eye
> > > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice
> > and stable and relaxed
> > > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> > >
> > > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins
> of
> > pranayama. I don't think
> > > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd
> > assumed that it was
> > > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
> and
> > down (and had been
> > > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow
> > furrowing every few
> > > breaths).
> > > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> > thought it would just fade
> > > further still!
> > >
> > > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> > heaven for years and years
> > > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> > attention to it and work
> > > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch
> > your leg crossings every
> > > other time you sit.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I
> do
> > run
> > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
> > which
> > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
> > Many
> > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> > symptoms
> > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> > paralysed
> > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > >
> > > > Blessings R.C.
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526 From: "jim_and_his_karma" <jim_and_his_karma@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun Mar 27, 2005 0:12am
Subject: Re:Jim Fading Conductivity in Pranayama jim_and_his_...
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Thanks for phrasing that delicately, Victor :)
Nope, I'm in heavy brahmacharya. Again, my problem isn't an overall energy issue. I start
pranayama with a good amount of energy (pretty much the same day after day). After ten
minutes, I have much less to play with. I feel good, I feel fine. It's just that the up/down
becomes, in the last few minutes, more of a mental excercise than actual flow. I don't get
self-critical about it; it's just something I note (and wonder about in my non-practice
time).
I'm pretty sure Yogani's response would be not to worry about it; just keep going. But this
being the place where we pick things apart, I thought I'd bring it up!
--- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, victor yj <vic@y...> wrote:
>
> Jim, maybe be attentive your sexual cycle. the seminal energy is the "fuel" for tis extatic
conductivity. Too much fuel depletion would cause exactly what you speak of.
>
> jim_and_his_karma <jim_and_his_karma@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes, indeed; the fireworks are, apparently, the result of impurities. But reduction of that
is
> a slow, long term process. Whereas every time I sit down, I notice less and less energy
as
> the pranayama proceeds (both from the fireworks and also by subtler perceptions).
Mabye
> my solution - to refresh via a judicious couple of mulha bandhas and sambhavi mudras
-
> is indeed the way to go. In fact, I'm finding that those additions are not bringing back
any
> negative kundalini symptoms, so I may fairly soon make them constants in my
pranayama.
>
> The question is....where's the energy going?
>
>
> --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "sifbear" <sifbear@y...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, Folks,
> > On another website about energy work that I have found helpful
> > (http://www.astraldynamics.com/tutor.../?BoardID=18)the authors
> > mention that the norm is for sensations of energy movement in the
> > body to diminish as the nadis become more purified. Hard to
> > objectively determine if the nadis are indeed becoming clean, but the
> > concept seems plausible and seems to match my experiences. I wonder
> > if this could be related to what you have been describing as a
> > diminution in ecstatic conductivity.
> >
> > Sifbear
> >
> > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > ---> Hi Jim
> > >
> > > Sometimes I think its just taking a long time to settle down into
> > > Pranayama, it's a bit like med in fact it's a lot like med.
> > Sometimes
> > > the attention is not so finely tuned on what you are doing. When
> > this
> > > happens to me I carry on a little while longer until I feel the
> > > conductivity start then I am OK as that helps to hold the attention.
> > >
> > > Yogani wrote on this somewhere in the lessons and said something to
> > > the effect that it doesn't matter you just keep going up and down
> > the
> > > spine and its still doing its work you don't actually have to feel
> > > anything. Its just me. I think if I feel the sensation its working,
> > > but it probably is anyway.
> > >
> > > Blessings R.C.
> > >
> > > > R.C., thanks for posting! You've hit on an issue I'm working on!
> > > >
> > > > As I said, I'm coming into AYP in the middle, but have scaled
> > down
> > > to start from the
> > > > beginning (after some kundalini symptoms that were not quite
> > > scary.....all better now). I'm
> > > > being cautious and just doing plain old spinal breathing, no
> > mulha
> > > banda, no third eye
> > > > stuff, not even sidhasana for the time being. Trying to get nice
> > > and stable and relaxed
> > > > before pushing forward. And limiting my pranayama to 10 mins.
> > > >
> > > > I, too, am finding tht the conductivity fades during the 10 mins
> > of
> > > pranayama. I don't think
> > > > it's my concentration or my ardor...it just starts to dry up. I'd
> > > assumed that it was
> > > > dissipating into finer nadis throughout the body as it went up
> > and
> > > down (and had been
> > > > replenishing it by squeezing just a tad of mulha bandha and brow
> > > furrowing every few
> > > > breaths).
> > > > But how does increasing the time increase the energy? I'd have
> > > thought it would just fade
> > > > further still!
> > > >
> > > > I, too had left/right issues with my kundalini awakening. Thank
> > > heaven for years and years
> > > > of very meticulous asana work; it gave me the ability to pay
> > > attention to it and work
> > > > through it via hatha. One important point: don't forget to switch
> > > your leg crossings every
> > > > other time you sit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In AYPforum@yahoogroups.com, "azaz932001"
> > > <richardchamberlin14@h...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- The 20 minutes of meditation works fine for me, although I
> > do
> > > run
> > > > > over by 5 or 10 minutes sometimes. I have just increased the
> > > > > Pranayama to 20 minutes to increase the ecstatic conductivity
> > > which
> > > > > was starting to fade somewhat on 10 minute sessions. I welcome
> > > > > Kundalini symptoms as that tells me what I am doing is working.
> > > Many
> > > > > years ago when I was doing TM rather indiscriminately I had
> > > symptoms
> > > > > rather like Bells palsy in which my face became partially
> > > paralysed
> > > > > on one side and I suffered bad headaches. I have had no bad
> > > > > experiences with ARP.
> > > > >
> > > > > Blessings R.C.
>
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