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gamefu
India
23 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 01:41:57 AM
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what is the whole purpose of spirituality? why meditate? what is to be sought? what 'truth' is to be found? |
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 2:07:02 PM
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I always picture myself as an almighty (dun duh duh duhhhh hehe) tree with a tire swing.Grounded in reality or your "self", blah, whatever you wanna call it. Call it blah haha. Grounded in Blah, yes. But making room for all to play (tis the tire swing), or/and to be on the path to the end of suffering.
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woosa
United Kingdom
382 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 3:08:49 PM
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The purpose of why I do this meditating lark is to experience who i am.
Quite a simple sounding goal, but it's proving quite a lengthy one to accomplish . |
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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 5:21:56 PM
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To find what was never lost. To lose what never was. To live without fear of death, to die without fear of life. To end the suffering and put right what was never wrong. |
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Divineis
Canada
420 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 7:37:53 PM
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yeah, blah, I tried to change the consciousness of pain, and felt god's love one day, that I knew would transcend pain. I thought things should be generally less painful (like skin pain, not emotional pain). I felt he changed it for a little while, only to get me to realize that it was ok all along, and that, I hope... he would intervene if anyone got too much into pain. It's really the torture kind of pain that bugs me, a human inflicting pain on another.
but yeah, there's so many considerations, like self harm people, or suicide or things like that... there'd be more of it (people hurting themselves... or others) if it were less painful, it's like a really fine balance between what's seemingly right and what is right. Unity... god made it so :).
hehe, people thought I enjoyed pain, oh man. I enjoyed painlessness, silly people. This happened in Ottawa... I think a lot of people felt it, cuz some random guy said something to me, without me saying anything to him. Don't worry ottawa folks, it was for the good of man kind... but really just... a lesson in; everything's appropriate.
Nameste to you all :)
and peace out *props* |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2011 : 11:01:45 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Divineis
there'd be more of it (people hurting themselves... or others) if it were less painful,
Hmmm I think that's one of those truths to be sought. |
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jeff
USA
971 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 08:40:40 AM
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No good reason... Other than to learn how to smile.
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CarsonZi
Canada
3189 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 11:02:46 AM
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Hi gamefu and All
I don't think there can be any "absolute" answers to these questions (only individual ones)... here are mine:
quote: Originally posted by gamefu
what is the whole purpose of spirituality?
To learn to see things as they are.
quote: Originally posted by gamefu
why meditate?
To learn to see things as they are.
quote: Originally posted by gamefu
what is to be sought?
The ability to accept things as they are.
quote: Originally posted by gamefu
what 'truth' is to be found?
The truth that everything is exactly as it needs to be.
Love!
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Swan
India
256 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 12:06:40 PM
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We all creatures are part of one life-force/prana spreading the whole universe, however, we see ourselves as separate identities, separated by ego. Through spiritual practices/meditation, we try to cool down/turn off the ego infested mind and create an inner silence, which has much better ability to see, analyze, and skim the truth. It removes the veils from our eyes, something that an always chirping mind is not capable to do. Then we start to see who we are and where we are.
Truth is nothing but what remains after all veils of lies and presumptions removed.
My two pennies... |
Edited by - Swan on Oct 24 2011 12:12:58 PM |
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Delara
Lebanon
305 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 12:31:50 PM
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Hello gamefu; I like your questions,I've asked myself the same questions
my personal answers are: 1-I don't know 2-Meditation makes me happy! 3-Nothing to be sought from my side. 4-I don't know either..I'm open to possibilities
Love; Delara |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Oct 24 2011 : 9:53:41 PM
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The purpose of spirituality is to bring a larger perspective of life than can be reached from our own minds alone. The concept that there is a power larger than ourselves opens a perception outside the mundane struggle.
Meditate because it removes stress, the #1 cause of premature aging. Meditate because it changes your perception, and makes your whole life better.
Nothing is to be sought, except your highest ideal.
The truths to be found can't be described from a mundane point of view. There will be many, but they will be different for each person, and can't be understood well by those who haven't experienced them yet. |
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nirmal
Germany
438 Posts |
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 09:50:36 AM
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Hi gamefu,
This might not be what you are looking for, but it is an interesting link that could help you.
www.sanatansociety.org/.../T..._the_self.htm
When you're there, go back to the overview on St.Thomas and the Truths" found therein.
nirmal |
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Shanti
USA
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Yaming
Switzerland
112 Posts |
Posted - Nov 18 2011 : 2:38:57 PM
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There are several studies out there that show the benefits of meditation. I personally just meditate to make every day a little bit better. That what appeals to me in ayp. Not some chasing of some abstract idea. I can not relate to any saying of "seeing as the things really are". Maybe one day I understand. Til then I stay with my conviction that there is no so called "absoulte truth" or even the possibility to see anything as it is because we are trapped into our subjective perception. So just try out to meditate for a year on a regular basis and you will see the benefits. :) |
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nirmal
Germany
438 Posts |
Posted - Nov 19 2011 : 02:48:48 AM
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Hi Shanti,
Yes,that is the one.Sorry about that people!
nirmal |
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nirmal
Germany
438 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 03:36:52 AM
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Hi gamefu,
Great questions! Here is my 2 cents:
1. the purpose of spirituality is a desire to know one self. To seek his or her Truth about who they are, and the purpose of life. An intriguing and deep interest in and the world(Universe) and how it all works. 2. I think meditating usually is sought to bring peace of mind and tranquility to self, but expands as one grows deeper into it. 3. I believe each person is perhaps finally searching "God" or higher power to bring into one self and understanding spiritual concepts that connects Self to the Universe.(we are not alone, never have, never will be.) 4. I believe the truth to be found is that we all are one in the Universe. That we are all made of the same "stuff" and including that higher power. That we Are that power(energy, vibreation,intelligence and pure Awareness just to name a few.)Each soul will discover within it's self to find their Own truth and self.
Thoughtful questions indeed!
nirmal |
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Mikananda
USA
90 Posts |
Posted - Nov 22 2011 : 4:40:17 PM
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Greetings and peace
I believe it comes down to purpose of life itself. We are presently stuck in the wheel of maya. The cycle of birth and death. To be born and then to die is to suffer. The cause of this suffering is attachment (desire). Once a desire has been put into motion is must be fulfilled. These desires spring out of the ego. The ego is the soul identified with the body (physical, astral, casual). In meditation we see that we are not the body, we are not the mind. We are that which is left when these outer coverings have be removed. There was a time when I thought if I melt into GOD what will become of me. I now see that to melt into GOD is not to lose anything but to gain everything. |
Edited by - Mikananda on Nov 22 2011 11:31:58 PM |
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nirmal
Germany
438 Posts |
Posted - Nov 23 2011 : 12:47:48 AM
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Beautiful, Mikananda. |
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harsharan000
Spain
59 Posts |
Posted - Feb 17 2012 : 4:31:31 PM
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Hi Gamefu, here are some answers from my humble perspective to your questions:
1)what is the whole purpose of spirituality? To become first better human beings, strengthened with moral values, and then to realize our true divine nature...once knowing who or what we are...only then the next steps can be taken, leading towards the goal.
2)why meditate? Because meditation is the only vehicle, which can enable and transport us, to that subtle spiritual realm, where the truth lies...
3)what is to be sought? Sach-Chit-Anand = Supreme Lord
4)what 'truth' is to be found? The one that is eternal, self sufficient, beyond births and deaths, changeless,fearless,merciful, without enmity, and omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent, matchless... these are some of the infinite virtues of that truth,which is none other, than the Lord Himself.
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Edited by - harsharan000 on Feb 17 2012 5:16:34 PM |
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AumNaturel
Canada
687 Posts |
Posted - Feb 17 2012 : 11:24:21 PM
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Once you take just one step, there is no looking back. Then, it's not about purpose, but imperative, undeniable. |
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Holy
796 Posts |
Posted - Mar 08 2012 : 7:34:25 PM
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Friend,
the answers above are very kind and the writers very humble. Riding on Carson's wise opening:
Bliss needs no reason. |
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harsharan000
Spain
59 Posts |
Posted - Mar 09 2012 : 4:50:31 PM
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Bliss needs no reason is o.k, once reached there......But we should keep in mind that, bliss is a consequence of hard work, love, dedication, regularity, sincerity, moral values,above all grace...all this is required, plus the highway of meditation...to reach that goal of Bliss! |
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Chiron
Russia
397 Posts |
Posted - Mar 17 2012 : 05:08:49 AM
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quote: Originally posted by gamefu
what is the whole purpose of spirituality? why meditate? what is to be sought? what 'truth' is to be found?
The 'truth' which eliminates all questions. |
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