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gamefu
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 Posted - Jul 28 2011 : 05:25:09 AM
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What are different ways by which the seeker/disciple can lose the Kundalini shaktipat initiation energy given by guru?
How can it be lost willingly?
How can it be lost accidently?
Or is it permanently with the disciple forever? |
Edited by - AYPforum on Jun 10 2012 5:52:24 PM |
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kannada
Australia
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Posted - Aug 03 2011 : 05:59:59 AM
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Hi gamefu,
The easiest way to lose the effects of initiation is simply to ignore the manifestations that occur after initiation. Whether one purposely decides not to continue with the path or one simply is busy with other things and cannot find time to allow its development. Or perhaps the fear one might feel from strong manifestations on an ill-prepared candidate. Depending on the candidates pre-disposition it could take a little while or a long time for the effects to completely disappear.
The effects of initiation are theoretically with a person for their whole life but practically speaking it would be so weak, dominated by materialistic tendencies or vasanas, or fear of the repurcussions of re-developing it, that it would be as good as non-existent. However it may be easily aroused once again when the candidate has reached a sufficient level of intelectual and spiritual maturity and then approached an initiator once again.
Please view my site for details... www.the-initiate.com
Take care
k |
Edited by - kannada on Aug 03 2011 09:01:44 AM |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Aug 03 2011 : 07:55:09 AM
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| Shaktipat comes from the outside and therefore is almost always lost over time. You have to bring the energy from inside yourself for it to be lasting. If you are practicing twice a day consistently over time, outside energy can sometimes give you a boost at the right time that may seem to last because you were already near some threshold by yourself. But the best path is to consistently work within yourself and don't depend on energy from the outside. |
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kannada
Australia
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Posted - Aug 05 2011 : 06:49:53 AM
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Originally posted by Etherfish
Shaktipat comes from the outside and therefore is almost always lost over time.
Sorry to burst your bubble Etherfish but if the initiate works with what he has gained through his / her initiation then the experience grows over time, it is not 'lost'. Many initiates drop their practice due to other interests, then kundalini subsides and returns to dormancy, but you cannot in any way blame the Shaktipat or the initiator for that. If one decides not to continue any practice can you blame the methodology for that???
All the best
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selfonlypath
France
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Posted - Aug 06 2011 : 12:46:21 AM
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Originally posted by kannada
Please view my site for details... www.the-initiate.com
Your site says I was initiated by a Siddha into Shaktipat in 1974 but can you tell us the name or lineage of your Siddha ?
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Aug 06 2011 : 10:13:49 AM
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Originally posted by kannada
quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish
Shaktipat comes from the outside and therefore is almost always lost over time.
Sorry to burst your bubble Etherfish but if the initiate works with what he has gained through his / her initiation then the experience grows over time, it is not 'lost'. Many initiates drop their practice due to other interests, then kundalini subsides and returns to dormancy, but you cannot in any way blame the Shaktipat or the initiator for that. If one decides not to continue any practice can you blame the methodology for that???
All the best
k
Yes, we are saying the same thing; consistent practice over time is paramount. Don't expect enlightenment to come from what someone else does; it comes from consistent practice. |
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kannada
Australia
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Posted - Aug 13 2011 : 05:09:49 AM
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Yes Etherfish, but consistent practice of what?
This is where guidance in whatever form is required, regardless of modality. Consistent practice of yoga, consistent practice of shaktipat, consistent practice of any other modality is important but there must be expert guidance. It is not enough to simply fire a rocket into the air and expect to hit the moon. The rocket needs to be 'guided to its target. Shaktipat is one method used as a 'guidance system'...
Kind regards
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Aug 13 2011 : 08:36:31 AM
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| Consistent practice of meditation, twice a day. It's in the lessons and books. |
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How to lose Kundalini Shaktipat initiation energy
