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danebramage
USA
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 Posted - Jul 10 2011 : 7:02:36 PM
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| That's an abstract concept. I wanna really wake up and I don't care who's next to me or if anybody is next to me but I suppose everybody will be there next to me but that shouldn't be a problem unless they're all still asleep but I haven't heard any complaints about my snoring yet. Maybe I'm silently snoring. Now if that's not psycho-babble nothing is. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jul 10 2011 : 7:19:22 PM
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Originally posted by jeff
Waking up is always good... 
But in the end... The person in the bed next to you is always very familiar.
Do you mean familiar from the root word "family", or a witch's familiar, being a supernatural spirit in her cat? |
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jeff
USA
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Posted - Jul 10 2011 : 11:01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Etherfish
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Originally posted by jeff
Waking up is always good...
But in the end... The person in the bed next to you is always very familiar.
Do you mean familiar from the root word "family", or a witch's familiar, being a supernatural spirit in her cat?
Very interesting question... I had meant that when one "ultimately" wakes up, there is only one, so that you will know the other person.
So to your question... It could be both...
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maheswari
Lebanon
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Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 01:35:31 AM
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I spoke to a Monk once who told me he had experienced cosmic consciousness. He was probably in that state while talking to me. I dropped and begged him to give that to me. He only said "You're out of balance". So, like I've said, I keep cranking away with the techniques hoping I someday find that balance.
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questioner:can you give me enlightnement?
Ramana Maharshi: i can give it to you but can you take it?
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danebramage
USA
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Posted - Jul 11 2011 : 11:10:04 AM
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| I'm sure I would've blown a fuse big time if Bhaktinanda had laid cosmic consciousness on me and I probably wouldn't have known what was happening anyway. |
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djc28
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2011 : 5:30:24 PM
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Originally posted by danebramage
I'm sure I would've blown a fuse big time if Bhaktinanda had laid cosmic consciousness on me and I probably wouldn't have known what was happening anyway.
I heard a story from a guru that around 6,000 years ago in India they came up with some sort of a pill or something that when taken, it would open up all your chakras and you would experience god consciousness. Well someone tried it and that person died instantly and their body basically disintegrated because their nervous system wasn't prepared for that level of consciousness. It's like watering a tomato plant with the whole ocean!! |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 14 2011 : 7:02:50 PM
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| or lighting a 60 watt bulb with a nuclear reactor. P. Yogananda said there's enough energy in one human cell to run Chicago for a week. I could handle the Sun in my back pocket for a minute or two. |
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Etherfish
USA
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Posted - Jul 14 2011 : 7:11:17 PM
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| That's what E=MC2 is about. The energy in a particle is equal to it's mass times the speed of light squared. But that doesn't mean the energy is easily accessible. The atomic bomb took hundreds of thousands of people to purify the radioactive fuel and build them. |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 14 2011 : 10:06:41 PM
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Sri Yukteswar states in "The Holy Science" there is no time or space. They like to keep things as confusing as possible, either that or the enlightened few are playing with a different deck than everybody else. Sri Yukteswar could make his body as big or as small as he wanted.
He said that helped wear shirts he hadn't worn in years. I guess that was his way of telling a joke. The Holy Science is the most over-powering book I ever read. I've read The Autobiography of a Yogi at least a dozen times. I should have it memorized soon. |
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vijikr
United Arab Emirates
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Posted - Jul 16 2011 : 07:04:09 AM
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| scraches my head and wonders is this what happens when one get enlightened???????? |
Edited by - vijikr on Jul 16 2011 07:32:02 AM |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 16 2011 : 12:19:19 PM
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The Minister at the Church of Self-Realization Fellowship I attend has been at this most of his life said "They know everything about nothing". I think this type of talk adds to the riddle. Sri Yukteswar's Holy Science book explains the facts that cause the riddle.
I can learn everything there is to know about water. I can get in it and experience it but I can't tell somebody else what it's like if they don't already know. Evidently, enlightenment is no longer needing to know the nature of "Nothing". |
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vijikr
United Arab Emirates
413 Posts |
Posted - Jul 16 2011 : 2:02:13 PM
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 16 2011 : 2:31:01 PM
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| There are hundreds of different flavors - words trying to describe things that cannot be put into words. To use brain's example; hundreds of ways of describing water using examples of dry things. . . |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 17 2011 : 03:37:17 AM
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| Hey, that's good Fishyji. What would the word "Wet" mean to someone who's never seen or felt water. |
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karl
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jul 17 2011 : 07:12:05 AM
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Originally posted by danebramage
Hey, that's good Fishyji. What would the word "Wet" mean to someone who's never seen or felt water.
I'm presuming you mean a human when you say someone because if so that question would be beyond hypothetical as we are 'of water'. |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 17 2011 : 08:04:31 AM
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| Ironically, a fish would not be a good one to describe water. |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2011 : 03:19:12 AM
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| That water bit was only an analogy. How would a fish describe air? How would a human describe Ether? |
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vijikr
United Arab Emirates
413 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2011 : 11:22:35 AM
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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2011 : 1:33:36 PM
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Originally posted by Etherfish
Ironically, a fish would not be a good one to describe water.
I reckon Nemo would have a good go and Dorian speaks Whale. I've never found the average fish a good conversationalist and they are pretty dull at dinner parties. The most you get out of them is 'bubble'. |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Jul 18 2011 : 3:00:13 PM
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| hey karl, you'll merge with the Infinite easy. You've got a witty sense of humor too. Jonah got lucky but was spit back out for some reason. |
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JDas
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - Jul 23 2011 : 11:04:18 PM
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Hi braindamage!
Got a FB account?
Will you be my friend?
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JDas
USA
74 Posts |
Posted - Jul 23 2011 : 11:06:59 PM
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I want more of you.
Can't get enough of your words.
Do you write poetry?
I bet you do. I bet you got a whole secret trove of poetry.
Would you sent it to me, please?!
I need to know more, much more. I'm hungry for your words.
Tks! |
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Etherfish
USA
3615 Posts |
Posted - Jul 24 2011 : 12:17:50 AM
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Originally posted by karl
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Originally posted by Etherfish
Ironically, a fish would not be a good one to describe water.
I reckon Nemo would have a good go and Dorian speaks Whale. I've never found the average fish a good conversationalist and they are pretty dull at dinner parties. The most you get out of them is 'bubble'.
Ha ha. What i mean is you can't fully understand or describe what you are immersed in and never leave.
A fish couldn't describe water. Likewise people are fully immersed in illusion and duality. |
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karl
United Kingdom
1812 Posts |
Posted - Jul 24 2011 : 05:45:09 AM
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Can you describe anything? It's a conundrum isn't it? We describe everything with reference to something else yet ultimately we do not know the true nature of Anything It's funny that we accept what we see and give names and identities to things. We even try and give lack of things an identity which is funnier still, very abstract. This is the hole where the apple fits. |
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danebramage
USA
77 Posts |
Posted - Aug 12 2011 : 4:43:28 PM
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| Words are all most of us have. These lesson describe techniques with words but the experience or the results the lessons provide isn't easily described in words. Some sects never use words. A day of silence is a helpful technique useful in examining our thoughts. I'm going silent. |
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