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Wyn
Australia
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 Posted - Jun 01 2024 : 07:42:30 AM
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Hi Guys, I would like to ask, perhaps, a silly question :
Initially, when I started meditation in February, I felt energy moving out from my feet. I could also feel energy moving in, though it wasn't very frequent.
Lately, I have felt the opposite. Whenever meditating, I can feel energy constantly moving in from my feet, but I am unaware of where the 'unwanted' energy goes. Also, when I hold my breath, some of the energy rises up to my upper body, even to my head. Am I supposed to do that, or not really?
I'm just curious about how the process works. I was wondering if there is any lesson here we could possibly learn? |
Edited by - Wyn on Jun 01 2024 07:45:03 AM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
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Posted - Jun 01 2024 : 11:50:58 AM
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Hi Wyn,
Energy (prana) will move around your body during meditation and at other times of the day. It is necessary for life to function. Usually we are not aware of it, but during meditation we can become aware of things that we did not notice before. Also, meditation will cause the flows of energy in the body to change, as part of the purification process. It is nothing to be concerned about unless anything is happening that is uncomfortable or painful.
Sometimes the breath can suspend during meditation and this is quite natural and normal. This is often accompanied with prana rising in the body. Again, it is a natural part of the process of purification. Don't be deliberately suspending your breath during meditation, but if it happens naturally it is fine to let it happen.
There is quite a lot on breaths suspension in the AYP lessons. Just do a search on "kumbhaka" using the search tool when you are on the website homepage. |
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qspadone
33 Posts |
Posted - Jul 23 2024 : 2:11:51 PM
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Hi all,
I'd like to react to this as I am currently experiencing similar symptoms as to what has been described (energy moving through my body in random ways). This is actually quite uncomfortable (o the point where it prevents me from fulfilling my daily obligations) and I have tried a number of times to just let it pass through, hoping that it would end. When I do that, things happen such as automatic yoga (asanas, legs shaking, ...). However, it does not seem to end. I have done it this morning for a couple of hours but it seemed that the energy just wanted to rise to the crown (a lot of chin pump happens, as well as some fast shaking, up and down and many other things (kriyas I believe). I am not sure that this is good for me given my overload background.
For background, I presumably had an premature crown opening which, according to Christi (and Yogani), can take a long time to stabilize. I have not yet found stability.
Yogani talks about it here : http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....TOPIC_ID=590
"The crown is like a spiritual vacuum cleaner that literally sucks all of our pranic energy up and out. This is great when the nervous system is sufficiently purified to handle it. But before that it can be a major reaming -- not very comfortable, and difficult to control if it gets out of hand -- shades of Gopi Krishna there."
Another thing I am doing, hoping to make this end, is that I focus on the soles of my feet all throughout the day, hoping that the energies become grounded through them. As I do this, I experience a lot of tingles in my feet and also in my body. I'm not entirely sure that this is a correct way of grounding this excess of energy. I hope I'm not doing the opposite (i.e. bringing more energy in my subtle nervous system).
I seem to find a some relief through this, though, as it enables me to take care of my daily obligations.
Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
I currently have cut back to zero practices, aside from what I have described above. Is this correct grounding practice? Since I have a desk job (which I find not grounding at all - I basically am facing a computer screen for 40 hours a week, barely ever talking to anyone), I find that I still need to 'do' something on top of just 'being' at my desk, otherwise I would get lost in my head completely. The energy just wants to go up and up and it does not seem to end.
I am going to go for more walks and play sports everyday, focusing as much as I can on my feet touching the earth.
P.S.: To find grounding, I have tried many other things such as keeping my awareness centered on my muladhara chakra, keeping my awareness on the breath through the day, deliberately relaxing my anal sphincter all through the day (I found that it is somehow always flexed, I don't know whether this is normal or not), favoring sambhavi all through the day to draw prana through the third eye instead of it being sucked up by the crown, and some other things.
In other words, I'm super lost and confused. I feel like I just try random things which completely deviate from AYP. I did 5 minutes of breath meditation yesterday (isn't the breath supposed to be grounding?) and afterwards I had a huge surge of energy in my head and the muscles at the back of the skull became tense, as they so often do these days.
I know I should basically not do anything spiritual and only do grounding activities but I'm confused as to what actually grounds me, and this overload stuff really confuses me.
Another thing which comes to mind, is that last year I was doing this thing where I kept my awareness centered on/in my head for days and days on end, sometimes specifically targetting the pineal gland. This most likely aggravated my premature crown opening ... It felt like it gave me access something 'superior', some ability, .. so I kept doing it. |
Edited by - qspadone on Jul 23 2024 3:44:53 PM |
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Christi
United Kingdom
4527 Posts |
Posted - Jul 23 2024 : 5:57:41 PM
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Hi Qspadone,
Letting the energy flow through you, as an active practice, can simply make symptoms of energetic overload worse, as you have noticed. The energy will tend to follow the path of least resistance, and if the crown is open, this will tend to be up through the open crown.
Bringing the energy through the soles of the feet is less likely to cause problems, as the feet are a long way from the crown and from the other six major chakras. But even this is not guaranteed to help. The chakras in the feet are connected to the root chakra via two energy channels in the legs. So, activating the chakras in the feet can lead to the activation of the root, and to an increase in prana flowing up through the sushumna nadi to the crown. This is why bringing your attention to the feet is not given as an effective grounding practice that will work for everyone.
It is best to simply reduce all spiritual practices (to zero if necessary) until things settle down and to use the recommended grounding activities such as walking in nature. Bringing your attention to the breath is a spiritual practice, as is doing anything with the muscles at the perineum. Even bringing your attention to these muscles is a spiritual practice, so it is best to drop all these things.
Using Shambhavi to bring the prana away from the crown can be useful during practice time if too much prana is flowing up into the crown, but using it during the day is likely to just increase the overall flows of Prana in the body. Things could easily spiral out of control.
And yes, spending a lot of time every day focusing your attention in your head could easily lead to a premature crown opening. I would strongly advise not doing that again. In AYP there is a -testing at the crown- practice. But this is only for advanced students and is only done for very short amounts of time each day such as 30 seconds, or a minute.
Spending several hours a day (or more) focussing on walking, swimming, cleaning the house and so on, is much more likely to actually stabilise the energies in your body.
Do read lesson 69 on grounding and self-pacing if you have not done so already:
https://www.aypsite.org/69.html
This winter I published a book called: Kundalini Awakening - Questions and answers: A guide for spiritual practitioners. It has a chapter devoted to dealing with difficult and painful kundalini issues. That can be found here:
https://www.aypinternational.com/ne...and-answers/ |
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qspadone
33 Posts |
Posted - Sep 09 2024 : 10:55:33 AM
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| I didn't reply but that was really helpful, thanks Christi! |
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Wyn
Australia
6 Posts |
Posted - Oct 11 2024 : 10:40:29 PM
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Thank you Christi,
It has been a long time since I last logged in.
I have experienced something new over the past few months?energy flowing in through my crown and down to my tailbone. Initially, the amount was very small, and I wasn't aware of it until I woke up early in the morning. Gradually, the flow has increased bit by bit. Now, whenever I feel the energy 'stuck' on top of my head, I meditate, and it begins to flow. Sometimes, I can feel a tiny bit of energy flowing into the front of my body, but it mostly flows to the back.
anyone resonates with it?
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Originally posted by Christi
Hi Wyn,
Energy (prana) will move around your body during meditation and at other times of the day. It is necessary for life to function. Usually we are not aware of it, but during meditation we can become aware of things that we did not notice before. Also, meditation will cause the flows of energy in the body to change, as part of the purification process. It is nothing to be concerned about unless anything is happening that is uncomfortable or painful.
Sometimes the breath can suspend during meditation and this is quite natural and normal. This is often accompanied with prana rising in the body. Again, it is a natural part of the process of purification. Don't be deliberately suspending your breath during meditation, but if it happens naturally it is fine to let it happen.
There is quite a lot on breaths suspension in the AYP lessons. Just do a search on "kumbhaka" using the search tool when you are on the website homepage.
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alain
Canada
30 Posts |
Posted - Oct 27 2024 : 01:31:32 AM
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Hi Wyn
that sounds right, everybody experiences the awakening of kundalini in it's own way. according to my experience and knowledge what you are experiencing is natural.
I dont know where you are in your progression, but I suggest that once you regularly do 20 min of deep meditation twice a day it will be time to add the practice spinal breathing pranayama. That is the mormal AYP progression |
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Dogboy
USA
2299 Posts |
Posted - Oct 27 2024 : 03:07:18 AM
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| A good way to experience this when noticed is "hmmm that's new" and watch it do whatever it does. I'm eleven years in AYP and this kind of stuff still happens. |
Edited by - Dogboy on Oct 27 2024 03:07:47 AM |
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yogani
USA
5250 Posts |
Posted - Nov 20 2024 : 11:28:34 PM
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Hi Wyn and All,
Yes, energy in the feet can happen. It is an indication of kundalini energy moving. Walking especially (including barefoot) is a good way to help the energy find balance when it is coming up like that. Or for any other experience of excess energy running around, whether in the lower body, upper body, or the crown. Of course, self-pacing of our practices is important if any of it becomes excessive.
Below is an overview of energy sensations in the feet, compiled from the AYP Plus lessons and all the books by an AI assistant we have been experimenting with. It is hoped that this useful feature can be added to AYP Plus sometime in the next year, so anyone can use it. It really helps for researching the vast AYP writings, spanning more than 20 years.
All the best. May your feet be happy! 
The guru is in you.
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Energy Moving in the Feet: Insights from AYP
The sources explain that the sensation of energy moving in the feet is a common experience in those practicing yoga, specifically related to the awakening and movement of kundalini energy. This sensation is often described as tingling, itching, prickling, or even erotic, and can be associated with both pleasant and unpleasant feelings.
Here's a deeper look into the phenomenon of energy in the feet, drawing from the sources:
* Kundalini Energy: Kundalini is described as a latent form of sexual energy located in the pelvic region that, when awakened, flows upwards through the nervous system. This flow can have profound effects on the whole body, including the feet.
* Ecstatic Conductivity: The sources often use the term "ecstatic conductivity" to describe the pleasant sensation of kundalini energy moving through the nervous system. This energy flow can be experienced in the feet as a tingling or itching feeling, which can be quite intense.
* Friction and Obstructions: The intensity of energy sensations, whether pleasant or unpleasant, is attributed to the friction created when kundalini energy encounters obstructions in the nervous system. These obstructions are often described as impurities or blockages that are gradually dissolved through yoga practices. As purification progresses, the energy flow becomes smoother and the sensations less intense.
* Feet as an Indicator: The feet are particularly sensitive to the movement of kundalini energy. One source even describes the experience as "having orgasms in the feet." This sensitivity can be due to the feet being the furthest extremities from the starting point of the energy flow at the base of the spine.
* Physical Activity as a Remedy: Walking and other physical activities are recommended for smoothing out energy sensations in the feet. This is because physical activity helps to distribute the energy throughout the body and beyond, reducing its concentration in specific areas.
* Spinal Breathing and the Feet: While the standard path of spinal breathing pranayama is between the root and the brow, in some cases, it may be beneficial to temporarily extend the path to encompass the distance between the brow and the feet to alleviate pain or discomfort in the legs and feet.
Overall, the sources suggest that the sensation of energy moving in the feet is a common experience associated with kundalini awakening and the flow of ecstatic conductivity. This sensation can be intense initially, but as purification progresses, it generally becomes more subtle and enjoyable. Physical activity like walking and mindful self-pacing of practices can help manage the intensity of these sensations. |
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