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Cato

Germany
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Posted - Sep 04 2024 :  1:26:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
My friends,

my practice routine these days is the following: Twice daily 5 minutes SBP/15 minutes DM/5 minutes samyama/ 10 minutes rest. I introduced samyama serveral weeks ago.

I cannot say I have uncomfortable symptoms with this routine and I cannot say I feel better with this routine in my daily life either.

However, I observe the following: I do not have to cut back and self-pace too often. When it happens (every few months or so), I do not practice for let's say around a week. When I go back to practice, the first meditation sessions tend to be much more deep and calm. Daily life is more in tune. As this regular practice goes on again, feelings go back to the level described above.

What does that indicate?

  • Is my regular routine (5/15/5/10) still too much even though no negative symptoms occur? (But no positve ones either)
  • Should I think about doing the routine once daily instead of twice daily? (I know it is recommended otherwise, but everyone is different)

What are your thoughts?

Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 04 2024 :  1:41:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cato,

It sounds as if your practice routine is fine as it is. Generally, if the need to self-pace arises, the advice given in the lessons is to take longer to rest after meditation, and if needed to cut back on practices. In your case, cutting back on practices could mean cutting back on any mudras and bandhas you are using, or not using siddhasana for a while. It could mean cutting back from a longer mantra enhancement to a shorter one. Or, it could mean cutting back from 5 minutes of SPB to 3 minutes with each session, and cutting back from 15 mins of DM to just 10 mins. Usually it is advisable to cut back on energy stimulating practices first which would include mudras, bandhas and mantra enhancements.

After making any changes, you would then see how that goes, and if it is not enough, you could cut back more. You should keep cutting back until you find a stable level of practice and then continue with that stable practice for some time before making any more changes.

Cutting back to zero, from a practice which includes SBP, DM and Samyama would normally only be recommended in severe cases such as if someone was in pain with a migraine.
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Cato

Germany
239 Posts

Posted - Sep 04 2024 :  8:46:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Christi,

yes, you are right. From a general point of view, there is no need to alter the practice since it seems to be reasonably stable (btw I'm not using any bandha, mudra or siddhasana during practice).

However, perhaps the intention of the question did not come across properly. Sorry for that. I wonder at the practice beeing so smooth (deep, calm) only after a break of several days. Even daily life is smoother when resuming practice after a break of some time. I feel that is how practice and life should feel according to the AYP lessons.

But what does it indicate when this state (of calmness, of smoother daily living) is achieved only when resuming practice after some days of rest? Could it for instance be advisable to switch to one instead of two daily sessions?
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Christi

United Kingdom
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Posted - Sep 05 2024 :  04:41:33 AM  Show Profile  Visit Christi's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cato,

If you are feeling irritability in daily life with the practice you have then that can be due to energetic overload. In that case it is best to self-pace your practice downwards and increase grounding practices until you feel your daily life is smooth without any irritability.

Cutting back from two practice sessions to one practice session per day is not the best way to self-pace unless it is really necessary. It is better to follow the process I described above, which is the process described in the Main Lessons.
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Cato

Germany
239 Posts

Posted - Sep 05 2024 :  11:18:33 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Christi,

there is no irritability in daily life with two sessions. But there is no positive change in daily life either. Positive changes in daily life can be felt when resuming practice after some time off. I thought it possible that the nervous system might need some time to adapt.

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Dogboy

USA
2293 Posts

Posted - Sep 06 2024 :  01:55:38 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
On thing for certain the AYP practices, if practiced as prescribed, do cleanse the neurobiology and opens a yogi to witnessing (thoughts, actions, observations, etc) and silence that is ever present, one must be properly tuned (purified) to perceive it in the everyday. At some point our radiance from dedicated practice will help you reap what you sow, you drop desires into the silence and life finds a way.
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