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Akasha

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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  01:21:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
You might have heard of a book called 'The Power of Now' by Eckhart Tolle.

Well this is the power of fasting.

Many over-eat. Yes...

Another option is to eat one meal a day, preferably vegetarian.

Just be warned that this will amplify the effects of practices, particularly if you suffer from poor or sluggish digestion.

I cannot extoll the benefits of fasting enough though it may not suit everyone.

I always remember that saying that if you can control or influence what comes in your mouth as well as what comes out of it you will go far.


Edited by - Akasha on Jun 13 2011 01:35:16 AM

Delara

Lebanon
305 Posts

Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  06:17:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Frankly speaking when I read The Power of Now & New Earth for Echkart Tolle few years back,they didn't have much influence on me or at least that what I thought.
I'm sure now these books will make much sense to me with practicing meditation

And thank you for mentioning the power of fasting,Holy month of Ramadan-fasting- is less than two months away & never been more excited about it in my life...can't wait!
Love;
Delara

Edited by - Delara on Jun 13 2011 06:35:23 AM
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maheswari

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  06:50:39 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
dear Delara
with all due respect..i dont think that the fasting practice of Ramadan is healthy
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Delara

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  08:07:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I can understand your concern & respect ur opinion But of course I don't agree.
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  08:22:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope you drink water during ramadan!
Fasting is healthy but you should build up to a long one with shorter ones first, starting with one day, three days etc.
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  08:25:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Akasha

You might have heard of a book called 'The Power of Now' by Eckhart Tolle. . .

I cannot extoll the benefits of fasting enough though it may not suit everyone. . .




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Delara

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  12:28:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish

I hope you drink water during ramadan!
Fasting is healthy but you should build up to a long one with shorter ones first, starting with one day, three days etc.


will do.
thank you for the advice Etherfish
Love;
Delara
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Akasha

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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  9:27:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Delara,

I'm very happy that you're excited about it.

So Happy Ramadan & Happy fasting when it comes.

I'm glad you might have found my post encouraging. With a little practice fasting is not that difficult i have been finding out myself.Once you keep your resolve for the first day it's pretty much plain sailing relatively speaking the rest of the time.Also depending on your constitution and/or metabolism unless one was under-weight i'd imagine it should probably be beneficial for most people.

It is a complete practice in itself and will amplify the effects of meditation and pranayama. Personally i've had a slight problem with over-eating and i know all the yogic texts sometimes put some stress on the importance of not over-eating saying that it can be a major obstacle in advancement in yoga.If one wants to get serious with one's practice then i think fasting is one to consider.



Another rough rule of thumb you find in the HYP is the rough maxim-
keep the stomach half full of food
one quarter water
& one quarter empty

Another suggestion is to always be ever so slightly hungry so that the fire of digestion still burns.

This is also all Great if you're say a fan of uuddiyana bandha or similar practices.Agnisara kriya,navi kriya, nauli,the shatkarmas etc.

Certainly more efficient digestion is certainly one benefit. Deeper breathing as the abdomminals are allowed tom come more into play and also thus releasing pressure on the diapghragM and lungs. This might explain why obese people might also have respiratory issues or slight wheezing etc as the bloated abdominals could have the effect of pushing the diaprhagm upwards and thus squashing the lungs so stopping them from expanding fully.


One of the greatest boons however is the amplification of effects of practices.Practices get more powerful.


Ladles of Love To You My Dear,

All Love,

Akasha

P.S AYP & Ramadan could work well together.

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hemanthks

Canada
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Posted - Jun 13 2011 :  11:06:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit hemanthks's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Namaste Akasha: Thank you for the post. I was just considering fasting tomorrow (full moon day and lunar eclipse). It is said that, Sadhana becomes more powerful during eclipse.

So yeah, I will be fasting tomorrow (15th June)

Regards
Hemanth
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maheswari

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  01:22:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Etherfish explained very well what i meant....drinking water during fasting is essantial to clean the system....plus fasting should be moderated...like once per week all year long instaed of long successive period....long fasts drain the energy...plus one should know how to break the fast...breaking the fast with liguids and fruits...then maybe have some light solid food...

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mathurs

United Kingdom
197 Posts

Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  05:06:01 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Hemanth,
I try to do a fruit fast during the day and eat a light meal every chaturthi ( 4th day after the full moon) and I find it difficult to keep resolve. However like Akasha says it seems to have a very positive effect on practices. In fact even the intent is enough. I find myself minty in the mouth and stomach. So all the best and if your health allows - go for it!
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hemanthks

Canada
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  08:15:07 AM  Show Profile  Visit hemanthks's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Namaste Mathur:

I have tried fasting before and yes it requires enough determination. I also did fruit fasting and ended with light meals. This time, I am hoping to have just water. Chaturthi and ekadasi are good days to fast.
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  08:19:44 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes water to clean the system, but also you will die without it, in a short time. Some people say three days, others longer.
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Delara

Lebanon
305 Posts

Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  1:15:02 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Akasha

Dear Delara,

I'm very happy that you're excited about it.

So Happy Ramadan & Happy fasting when it comes.

I'm glad you might have found my post encouraging. With a little practice fasting is not that difficult i have been finding out myself.Once you keep your resolve for the first day it's pretty much plain sailing relatively speaking the rest of the time.Also depending on your constitution and/or metabolism unless one was under-weight i'd imagine it should probably be beneficial for most people.

It is a complete practice in itself and will amplify the effects of meditation and pranayama. Personally i've had a slight problem with over-eating and i know all the yogic texts sometimes put some stress on the importance of not over-eating saying that it can be a major obstacle in advancement in yoga.If one wants to get serious with one's practice then i think fasting is one to consider.



Another rough rule of thumb you find in the HYP is the rough maxim-
keep the stomach half full of food
one quarter water
& one quarter empty

Another suggestion is to always be ever so slightly hungry so that the fire of digestion still burns.

This is also all Great if you're say a fan of uuddiyana bandha or similar practices.Agnisara kriya,navi kriya, nauli,the shatkarmas etc.

Certainly more efficient digestion is certainly one benefit. Deeper breathing as the abdomminals are allowed tom come more into play and also thus releasing pressure on the diapghragM and lungs. This might explain why obese people might also have respiratory issues or slight wheezing etc as the bloated abdominals could have the effect of pushing the diaprhagm upwards and thus squashing the lungs so stopping them from expanding fully.


One of the greatest boons however is the amplification of effects of practices.Practices get more powerful.


Ladles of Love To You My Dear,

All Love,

Akasha

P.S AYP & Ramadan could work well together.





Thank you Akasha for this lovely reply.you covered everything & I've learnt a new experession from you today ..."Ladles of Love.."...cool I luv it! ....
no I'm not underweight neither over weight.I have the perfect weight for my height.
I'm not new to fasting.& I used to fast outside Ramadan every monday &/or thursday & I find it easy... but since starting AYP meditation last year,fasting became an overload factor.
It's been a year now... hope I don't face any overload symptoms this year
thank you for the ramadan wishes(in advance) & hope you enjoy ur fasting too
Love;
Delara
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 14 2011 :  5:34:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't you think you will overload if you fast for 29 or 30 days? That's an awful long time. I used to get weirded out after three weeks before I did any meditation.
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Delara

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  12:27:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
nothing to worry about...I think I can handle it.
I'll amend as needed,decreasing my practices or even quitting fasting if necessary.
it's Only 21 fasting days for women not 30 days!






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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  1:39:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh good, 21 is not so bad. That was always the most I could do before things got too weird. Hunger I can handle, it was just all the other side effects I couldn't handle after three weeks.
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Delara

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  3:33:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
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vijikr

United Arab Emirates
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  3:45:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Well this Ramadan I am also thinking of keep the fast.. I hope i can keep the 21 days fast and do bit of meditation too!
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Delara

Lebanon
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Posted - Jun 15 2011 :  4:18:37 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
All the best vijikr.
remember to drink plenty of water/fluid in the evening.I usually keep a bottle of water handy.
Love;
Delara
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