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kevincann
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 Posted - May 03 2011 : 3:58:43 PM
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Once your nervous system has become quite purified, such that kundalini flows non-stop, but you hardly notice it, and your crown chakra has become quite active, you are in a very dangerous part of your journey.
It is quite easy to delude yourself at this point. That would seem to be unlikely, given all the energetic silence, but trust me, it is easily possible to make a grand ass out of oneself. I speak from experience.
I think that perhaps it is the silly enlightenment talk from history that messes with ones head. Yes, back a thousand years ago, enlightement was so rare, that such a person WAS quite special in a manner of speaking.
However nowdays, I think it likely that hundreds or thousands of enlightned are here, and within a few hundreds years, should this world still be here (that's another story), there will be millions.
However if one listens to the silly self-worship verses from the past, one becomes quite corrupted, at the "one yard line of enlightement" as I am fond of saying.
You can trust me; even a 75% purified nervous system and 75% activated kundalini, in conjunction with even a 25% activated
crown, may cause one to fall into terrible melodrama for life after life; it can cause one to act like an ass; it can cause one to play little games, while stalling out ALL further progress.
Think of me as you will; that is what you should do; you should never take another's words unfiltered, but use discrimination and your own good sense, powered by your own inner guru. Sometimes someone like me can come across as a bit overpowering; that doesn't mean there aren't some jewels along with the lesser quality material.
We all try so very hard, in our own way; it is good to honor that in each other.
Ok, self-abasement public service announcement over.
Just this morning, a really good analogy sprang to my mind about
enlightenment.
You proably all know about the granthis - the knots in the body; which basically trisect it into thirds of "lower", "middle" and "upper".
I'm not really worried about exact physical locations... what pierces what where for this note.
What I'd like to point out, is that when one of these ida/pingala/sushumna (and other stuff) areas is purified, you may
get all sorts of exotic symptoms, visions, delusions, etc.
None of us bow down and worship one of these purifications.
It would be like bowing down to a good dump (the nice way to say this would be a colon clensing perhaps).
But this is exactly what we do when we fuss about enlightenment!
Enlightenent is the cleansing of the Jiva granthi.
That's it.
The Jiva granthi is the "soul" (not to be confused with the Atman,
which is the divine source of us, that "buds off" from Shiva.
(if you've never hard of the term Jiva granthi before, it's becuase i just created it this morning -- or maybe someone else did, who knows.)
I've been saying for years, that the soul is a temporary structure, the keeper of skandhas. (karma, pre-existing tendencies).
This is why, when the "soul" the Jiva Granthi is "untied", we
become enlightened.
So, lets not be fools like I have been for SSOOOOOOO long.
Let's not confuse a simple body cleansing with more than it is.
I have never heard anyone speak in these terms; if indeed others,
who are wise would wish to concur with this perception, then perhaps
we could start using this language; this language would safeguard us
in our travels.
Anyone want to argue with me or concur? I'm up for a 100 page thread,
if that is what it takes to build consensus.
This thought model has helped me tremendously. I view it as enormously important. Of course it may mean nothing to others..
but nothing wrong with posting passionately without clinging is there?
Cleansing is just another modest step, and not the goal. Nothing to
fuss about. Nothing to see here, move along now :-)
Kind Regards,
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JDH
USA
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Posted - May 03 2011 : 8:14:14 PM
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Hi Kevin, and welcome to the AYP forums.
I liked your beauty bandha post the other day. The part about emoting rather than thinking struck a chord, and has helped me move from a place of stillness a few times since then. It was also just quite interesting to read about your path - I liked hearing people's paths to AYP at a recent spiritual retreat.
I agree, the purification and experiences are scenery along the way. It's still fun to enjoy the scenery. It's quite amazing at first, and gradually becomes quite ordinary. Just as sure as it is there, we've got to watch it go by it on our journey.
PS - I'm pretty sure my roommate actually worships his dumps.  |
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kevincann
USA
335 Posts |
Posted - May 03 2011 : 8:57:26 PM
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@JDH --- MEGGA LOLOLOL.
I think that even the One likes potty humor.
Why else do we have it?
Oh, on the beauty bandha - it's down for improvement;
i'll put it back when it's more complete. Might just post
it to my blog and put up a link.
Yes, I too LOVE to see other people's paths.. most people
just follow the crowd.. I refuse to do that. I want color
in life. I want to provide color. The One is the lord of story
tellers. If we don't learn to tell a good story, we have missed
the entire point of being alive.
We all tend to make things way too difficult. I want to demonstrate
that things don't need to be so difficult, whether a beginner or
whatever. Takes time? Yes. Clever complicated? No. Not appropriate.
Thanks for the response. I love to talk to peopele.
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manigma
India
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 04:54:58 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by kevincann
Enlightenent is the cleansing of the Jiva granthi.
Kundalini, Crown, Granthis... exist as long as you exist. You created them.
Purification, Cleanisng, Enlightenment...
... silly melodrama of a dreamer.
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jeff
USA
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 08:30:15 AM
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Simplicity is helpful. The more complicated things are made, the greater life they take on of their own. The ego then can come up with more to do and the dualistic perspective can grow.
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kevincann
USA
335 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2011 : 10:04:58 AM
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I see you two understand.
Even the "soul" is just a mess that needs to be cleaned up.
The much aligned ego was by design; without all the little egos, the One would
be lonely, and be incomplete.
The echos are part of the fullness of the nothingness.
This is why the "mundane world of form" must also be considered divine.
-Kevin Cann |
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jeff
USA
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Posted - May 04 2011 : 11:25:28 AM
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You have got me wondering... If the soul is just a wrapper, what then is what many have called the "Dark night of the soul"?
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kevincann
USA
335 Posts |
Posted - May 04 2011 : 3:16:51 PM
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@Jeff,
That phrase "dark night of the soul" has been used a lot.
There does indeed come a point, when the soul is all riled up, but
does not understand it's place in things yet.
It is the soul's insanity, in her thirst to finish evolving, that
drives us crazy too, during a certain phase of kundalni.
however, if one purifies the soul and the body both, then she doesn't
go nearly so mad.
This is the genius of a complete system like ayp.
- Kevin Cann |
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manigma
India
1065 Posts |
Posted - May 05 2011 : 03:07:05 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by kevincann
Even the "soul" is just a mess that needs to be cleaned up.
The much aligned ego was by design; without all the little egos, the One would
be lonely, and be incomplete.
The echos are part of the fullness of the nothingness.
This is why the "mundane world of form" must also be considered divine.
How can One be incomplete?
How can fullness have parts?
Its when you think there is a Soul that needs cleaning and an Ego that needs alignment...
... silly melodrama of a dreamer.
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kevincann
USA
335 Posts |
Posted - May 05 2011 : 12:16:56 PM
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Maniigma,
The One is famous for setting things up, so that they appear contradictory. They are not.
-Kevin Cann |
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manigma
India
1065 Posts |
Posted - May 06 2011 : 02:48:12 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by kevincann
Maniigma,
The One is famous for setting things up, so that they appear contradictory. They are not.
-Kevin Cann
Yes, you are making him more famous.
... silly melodrama of a dreamer.
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