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Rajeev Sethi

India
50 Posts

Posted - Apr 25 2011 :  08:11:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Bliss
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vijikr

United Arab Emirates
413 Posts

Posted - Apr 25 2011 :  09:15:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
one is blossoming and other is withering which is lifecycle of us being born,gone n reborn again..
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davidg

United Kingdom
36 Posts

Posted - Apr 25 2011 :  5:07:54 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
it is the observer, the witness, he who is aware, of those two otherwise individual events,
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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  01:12:02 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind. Thanks for your participation.

1.1 Father forgive them, for they know not what they do
1.2 Today you will be with me in paradise
1.3 Behold your son: behold your mother
1.4 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me
1.5 I thirst
1.6 It is finished
1.7 Father, into your hands I commit my spirit


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saying...on_the_cross

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josongeorge5

India
1 Posts

Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  02:19:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Change
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Chiron

Russia
397 Posts

Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  07:36:57 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The spirit never left the father
the flower blossomed
the leaves blew further
today we are in paradise
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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  09:34:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by manigma

What's common between a blossoming flower...

... and a dry leaf falling from a tree?


The answer is SURRENDER.

- The blossoming flower surrenders to Light. Grace.

- And the dry leaf falling from the tree surrenders to Gravity. Stillness.

Grace + Stillness is a lethal combination.

Om

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jeff

USA
971 Posts

Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  11:18:05 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Or as Lau Tzu might say from another perspective, "no struggle" with Tao. To be fair, I think a buddhist could also say "no desire".

A story I once heard... Buddha, Confucius and Lau Tzu were all asked to play a game of Monopoly. Buddha said that there was no game, so there was no point in playing. Confucius would only play if he could be the banker (He wanted to make sure that everyone followed the rules). Lau Tzu played fully with abandon and didn't worry about the outcome.

Peace & Love.
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maheswari

Lebanon
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  12:42:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
manigma...do u have another one....i liked this one a lot...
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Etherfish

USA
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Posted - Apr 26 2011 :  10:38:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
OK this confirms my answer of "Maya" being correct since you have surrendered to her illusions. Surrender is a human quality, not a plant quality. You are trying to apply a human quality to a plant which can't have that quality.

It is true that a man would have to surrender to become like a plant, because he would have to give up his ego, but the plant does not give anything up; it just exists. To surrender is relinquishing something to another power. A flower opens because that is built into its DNA. It is not deciding to open as a sacrifice when it would rather be a rogue flower and do something else, so it is not surrendering. In fact it is taking power from the sun, not giving up something.

And the dry leaf falling from the tree could be stretched to be called a surrender, as much as the earth orbiting the sun is surrendering to the gravitational pull of the sun, but it is still not giving something up. If you trip on something and fall down, you are not really surrendering as there is no conscious giving up;
it just happens outside of your will, just like if your car is stolen when you're not there, you didn't "surrender" it.
So yes, Maya is the correct answer. . .
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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  01:16:47 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish

OK this confirms my answer of "Maya" being correct since you have surrendered to her illusions. Surrender is a human quality, not a plant quality. You are trying to apply a human quality to a plant which can't have that quality.

It is true that a man would have to surrender to become like a plant, because he would have to give up his ego, but the plant does not give anything up; it just exists. To surrender is relinquishing something to another power. A flower opens because that is built into its DNA. It is not deciding to open as a sacrifice when it would rather be a rogue flower and do something else, so it is not surrendering. In fact it is taking power from the sun, not giving up something.

And the dry leaf falling from the tree could be stretched to be called a surrender, as much as the earth orbiting the sun is surrendering to the gravitational pull of the sun, but it is still not giving something up. If you trip on something and fall down, you are not really surrendering as there is no conscious giving up;
it just happens outside of your will, just like if your car is stolen when you're not there, you didn't "surrender" it.
So yes, Maya is the correct answer. . .


You think too much.

There is no Maya.

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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  04:06:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by jeff
Or as Lau Tzu might say from another perspective, "no struggle" with Tao.

Yes. No struggle.

'It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up.' - Muhammad Ali (Legendary Boxer)

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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  04:37:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by maheswari

manigma...do u have another one....i liked this one a lot...


OK. This one's much easier.

What's common between a dry leaf crushed under your feet...

... and you?


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Etherfish

USA
3615 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  07:18:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by manigma

quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish

OK this confirms my answer of "Maya" being correct since you have surrendered to her illusions. Surrender is a human quality, not a plant quality. You are trying to apply a human quality to a plant which can't have that quality.

It is true that a man would have to surrender to become like a plant, because he would have to give up his ego, but the plant does not give anything up; it just exists. To surrender is relinquishing something to another power. A flower opens because that is built into its DNA. It is not deciding to open as a sacrifice when it would rather be a rogue flower and do something else, so it is not surrendering. In fact it is taking power from the sun, not giving up something.

And the dry leaf falling from the tree could be stretched to be called a surrender, as much as the earth orbiting the sun is surrendering to the gravitational pull of the sun, but it is still not giving something up. If you trip on something and fall down, you are not really surrendering as there is no conscious giving up;
it just happens outside of your will, just like if your car is stolen when you're not there, you didn't "surrender" it.
So yes, Maya is the correct answer. . .


You think too much.

There is no Maya.





You mean there is no surrender.
And there are no words - and yet the riddle asked for a word. . .
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AYPforum

351 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  08:02:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Moderator note: Topic moved for better placement
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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  08:13:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish
You mean there is no surrender.
And there are no words - and yet the riddle asked for a word. . .


It wasn't a riddle.

Riddles are for philosophers.

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Etherfish

USA
3615 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  5:42:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
That's OK; I was writing in an entirely different language that just looks exactly like English, but it isn't.
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wakeupneo

USA
171 Posts

Posted - Apr 27 2011 :  7:38:29 PM  Show Profile  Visit wakeupneo's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by manigma

quote:
Originally posted by manigma

What's common between a blossoming flower...

... and a dry leaf falling from a tree?


The answer is SURRENDER.

- The blossoming flower surrenders to Light. Grace.

- And the dry leaf falling from the tree surrenders to Gravity. Stillness.

Grace + Stillness is a lethal combination.

Om





Manigma,

there you go playing around with duality again...

the only REAL answer is EVERYTHING



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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 28 2011 :  12:49:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish

That's OK; I was writing in an entirely different language that just looks exactly like English, but it isn't.


Yes. Now you have understood.

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manigma

India
1065 Posts

Posted - Apr 28 2011 :  12:50:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit manigma's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by wakeupneo
Manigma,

there you go playing around with duality again...

the only REAL answer is EVERYTHING


OM

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Etherfish

USA
3615 Posts

Posted - Apr 28 2011 :  07:50:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit Etherfish's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by manigma

quote:
Originally posted by Etherfish

That's OK; I was writing in an entirely different language that just looks exactly like English, but it isn't.


Yes. Now you have understood.





Thank you. I learned that from recognizing you were doing the same.
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