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yogani
USA
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 Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 12:53:36 PM
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Hi All:
Over the past three months, AYP has had visitors from about 100 countries around the world. The data below is for www.aypsite.com (Dec 20, 2005 - Mar 19, 2006) showing the country, number of visitors and percentage of the total. Of course, www.aypsite.org is also very active due to this forum, but a country breakdown is not available for .org. The Geocities site and Yahoo groups also continue to receive healthy traffic. So the stats below are a partial snapshot of the whole picture.
.Org has had 16,000 visitors of its own so far this year -- not included below. The total traffic on all AYP sites is running at 10-15,000 hits per day now, more than 10 times what it was a year ago.
The dominance of the USA in the stats is surprising. What does this mean?
Still waiting for more of this to show up in AYP book sales, so we can expand even more proactively. Still waiting, and writing... 
The guru is in you.
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UNITED STATES 16,842 visitors 78.2%
INDIA 680 3.16
CANADA 618 2.87
UNITED KINGDOM 523 2.43
GERMANY 323 1.5
AUSTRALIA 215 1
CHINA 208 0.97
BULGARIA 189 0.88
FRANCE 181 0.84
UNKNOWN 123 0.57
NETHERLANDS 122 0.57
JAPAN 92 0.43
SAUDI ARABIA 82 0.38
ISRAEL 82 0.38
SWEDEN 80 0.37
SWITZERLAND 68 0.32
BELGIUM 65 0.3
SPAIN 60 0.28
MALAYSIA 57 0.26
MEXICO 57 0.26
NORWAY 55 0.26
FINLAND 51 0.24
PORTUGAL 45 0.21
BRAZIL 39 0.18
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 38 0.18
PHILIPPINES 33 0.15
ITALY 31 0.14
SINGAPORE 29 0.13
IRELAND 28 0.13
HONG KONG 28 0.13
MALAWI 27 0.13
AUSTRIA 26 0.12
SOUTH AFRICA 25 0.12
RUSSIAN FEDERATION 25 0.12
THAILAND 24 0.11
CZECH REPUBLIC 22 0.1
POLAND 21 0.1
PAKISTAN 20 0.09
SLOVENIA 19 0.09
TURKEY 18 0.08
COLOMBIA 18 0.08
INDONESIA 16 0.07
EGYPT 16 0.07
ROMANIA 16 0.07
GREECE 13 0.06
NEW ZEALAND 13 0.06
MALTA 10 0.05
DENMARK 10 0.05
HUNGARY 9 0.04
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO 9 0.04
ARGENTINA 9 0.04
CHILE 7 0.03
KUWAIT 7 0.03
CROATIA 7 0.03
ESTONIA 7 0.03
VENEZUELA 6 0.03
ICELAND 5 0.02
BAHRAIN 5 0.02
ECUADOR 5 0.02
VIET NAM 5 0.02
PUERTO RICO 4 0.02
MAURITIUS 4 0.02
ALGERIA 4 0.02
PERU 3 0.01
LITHUANIA 3 0.01
SRI LANKA 3 0.01
BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA 3 0.01
TAIWAN 3 0.01
URUGUAY 3 0.01
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO 3 0.01
BARBADOS 3 0.01
SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC 2 0.01
PANAMA 2 0.01
COSTA RICA 2 0.01
LEBANON 2 0.01
NIGERIA 2 0.01
MOROCCO 2 0.01
GUYANA 2 0.01
ANGOLA 2 0.01
LATVIA 2 0.01
GAMBIA 1 0
LUXEMBOURG 1 0
MACAO 1 0
UZBEKISTAN 1 0
SENEGAL 1 0
PARAGUAY 1 0
TUNISIA 1 0
MYANMAR 1 0
BANGLADESH 1 0
SLOVAKIA 1 0
CYPRUS 1 0
BOTSWANA 1 0
RWANDA 1 0
SERBIA AND MONTENEGRO 1 0
QATAR 1 0
CAYMAN ISLANDS 1 0
NEPAL 1 0
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1 0
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yogani
USA
5242 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 1:57:01 PM
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Hi Melissa:
"Hits" include all page requests, including multiple requests from individual visitors.
There are several translations of the AYP lessons being done on the web by volunteers. Some are further along than others. They are listed here: http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....TOPIC_ID=440
...and also listed in the AYP links section.
Someday the international translations will become a more organized project, with books being published. That too is a function of how the English language AYP books do. It all takes time...
The guru is in you.
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weaver
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Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 2:00:28 PM
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Yogani,
Interesting figures. I find that much dominance of the U.S. surprising too. I think the main reason for this is the widespread use of the internet here (well, except for Europe). |
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yogani
USA
5242 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 2:39:46 PM
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Hi Weaver:
Yes, the web is strong here. The skewing toward USA is probably language-related too -- English.
What I am really wondering is if the USA is leading the charge in yoga worldwide. It seems so. It is a huge responsibility, given our youth in the field as compared to India -- there is no comparison! Well, maybe that is an advantage. We have fewer laurels to rest on, and so have to dig out the truth of human spiritual transformation and rely on actual results instead of long history, legends and lore. It is like so many things in America. It is the practical results and forward progress that count the most. It works in yoga like it does in most things...
But let's face it, we would not be here doing all this were it not for the greatness of India. I bow to Mother India. May we take what she has so generously shared and make the very best of it.
The guru is in you.
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Shanti
USA
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Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 2:51:11 PM
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You maybe right Weaver about the Internet. The other thing about this, in most of the Eastern countries, esp. India.. if I need spiritual guidance.. I find myself a guru... But here, if you need an answer to a question.. you go to the Internet.. If I was back in India chances of finding AYP would be less. I needed answers for all that was happening to me spiritually.. back in India I would have found myself a guru.. here.. I ran to the Internet.. Sometimes I wonder why I am here.. this must be it.. 
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Sparkle
Ireland
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Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 3:04:36 PM
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My experience in talking to friends who practice yoga, meditation, healing etc. in Ireland is that they don't tend to go near computers, except when they have to.
Population in Ireland is only about 4 million and UK about 57 million, except for UK and Ireland, english is not the first language of European countries.
Broadband is also limited in Ireland so surfing forums etc. can be a bit slow.
Also, if you search for yoga and Ireland, which most people here might do, AYP will not come up.
I found it by accident after a heart opening and put in something like - bliss love heart
All the best
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weaver
832 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 3:16:48 PM
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Hi Melissa,
I am interested in what books you have found with yogic philosophies as dictated by Jesus Christ. |
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david_obsidian
USA
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Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 3:19:51 PM
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North American Dominance, and India close
Weaver said:
I find that much dominance of the U.S. surprising too. I think the main reason for this is the widespread use of the internet here (well, except for Europe).
This effect of internet usage is real, but when we try to account for it, the US and Canada still come way ahead. And India looks much less far behind.
I took the top six countries in Yogani's list above and normalized them based on the number of active internet users in those countries. The results are interesting, showing the US is still way ahead at 117, with Canada coming in not far behind at 70. For reasons mentioned below, the figure on India is not as accurate and it may clock in somewhere between about 20 and 34, which makes it a possible THIRD in this ranking.
Note that UK and Australia, both English-speaking countries, clock well behind the US. So the effect of the US and Canada being far ahead is very high, even compared to other English-speaking countries.
Country Hits per day per million active internet-users
USA 117
Canada 70
India ?20 - 34 (**)
Australia 21.5
UK 21.2
Click for Estimates for internet users and active internet users
(**) There is not a separate estimate for internet users and active internet users for India. Since active internet users are usually 50% to 90% of actual internet users for most countries, I used this range for India.
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Shanti
USA
4854 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 3:25:27 PM
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Yep Louis. you are right.. if you search on Yoga you do not get this site.. even if you type in Advanced Yoga practice.. miss the 's' you wont get this site (on the first page at least).. the way I came upon this site was.. I looked for .. "seeing a star during meditation" and the APY lesson# 92 came up. Well, I did not add this site to my favorites.. and actually I am not a big PC person.. did not know about the history button.. so the next time I wanted to get back.. I search for the star again.. The Star Showed me the way...
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Jim and His Karma
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Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 5:02:58 PM
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I'd suggest, for planning purposes, mostly paying attention to the top of the list. Very sparse hits are accounted for by google searches for porn terms (and our tantra stuff hooks in to all that). They see no pix and they don't stick around.
the higher-up ones on the list, though, seem to reflect steady draw.... |
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weaver
832 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 5:19:21 PM
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Originally posted by Melissa
I am currently reading "Love Without End" and "The Keys of Jeshua" by Glenda Green.
Thank you Melissa for this information, I may get the books you are reading. I think this issue of unifying the teachings of East and West is very important. I have been studying this page which David found a while ago:
http://www.chrmysticaloutreach.com/.../1/index.htm
and I just ordered "Putting on the Mind of Christ" by Jim Marion. |
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yogani
USA
5242 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 5:26:55 PM
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Hi David:
Thank you for the overall internet stats.
Since the USA AYP traffic in relation to India and Canada is on the order of 25 times more, where the ratios in the figures you gave for overall internet usage are much smaller, this may point to something unique relating to yoga going on in the USA. The AYP ratios for the USA versus the UK and Australia are even further apart.
Could we say that the wide differences in the ratios between AYP and general internet usage are due to involvement in yoga? If so, then it indeed does point to the USA being the source of a worldwide renaissance in yoga -- especially self-directed practices, which is what AYP is about.
On Melissa's comments on Jesus and yoga, the "Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ" by Levi (said to be transcribed from the "akashic records") is another good one, covering the years Jesus spent in India and elsewhere between the time when he left Palestine as a youth and finally returned near the age of thirty. This long period is known as the lost (or missing) years of Jesus. It can be found on the AYP book list here: http://www.aypsite.org/booklist5.html There are other accounts of Jesus in India, including some local lore within India itself. Where I read about it slips my mind right now. Maybe someone knows. Or look it up in the Aquarian Gospel, which has an amazing amount of detail in it. Levi was either reading the akashic records or had a terrific imagination.
Anyhow, none of this changes the fact that something profoundly good is happening when we do our daily practices. Results! Now it is up to us to get the word out.
The guru is in you.
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 20 2006 : 5:46:45 PM
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Yogani asked:
Could we say that the wide differences in the ratios between AYP and general internet usage are due to involvement in yoga? If so, then it indeed does point to the USA being the source of a worldwide renaissance in yoga -- especially self-directed practices, which is what AYP is about.
I think that's what it is, yes. Possibly the beginning of a worldwide renaissance in self-directed yoga practices, stemming from the USA. On the face of it, the interest even per internet user in the USA is almost six times that from the UK and Australia.
These figures are exciting.
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Richard
United Kingdom
857 Posts |
Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 07:44:34 AM
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Hello everyone I find the figures for the UK very disappointing. I have been trawling the net for some time now and have posted on a lot of spiritual sites that are UK based but it seems to no avail.
When maharishi mahish yogi shut down all his operations in the UK he said that we were a scorpion nation not worthy of his teachings, this is of course rubbish everyone has a right to enlightenment no matter what there race or nationality.
Considering the high price of the TM courses and the fact that AYP offers everything they offered and more I see no reason why we can not attract all those unworthy people his holiness
has discarded its just how to get there attention that is the problem. Some sort of media publicity is needed as a lot of these people do not use the internet. I'm working on it
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yogani
USA
5242 Posts |
Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 09:52:45 AM
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Hi Richard:
Where would we be in the USA without the high British standards of democracy, industry and culture? These are the mainstays of American society. The difference between the two nations has been environment and age.
One thing I have noticed in dealing with the UK on practical matters is a bit of slowness to act if it is something new. The same with India. Both countries seem somewhat set in their ways due to long history in the ways of doing things. The urgency for change is not there as much as in the USA. Someday the USA will get old and more set in its ways too. But for now we still seem to have enough energy and flexibility to pave new roads.
None of this means that the British are not interested in enlightenment, or anyone else anywhere in the world. People everywhere are interested in enlightenment. It is wired into all of us. AYP has seen visitors from 100 countries in the past three months! It is always a matter of personal choice, yes? But the national personality can make a difference also. There can be some inertia in a society (including in the USA) ... but I think it can be overcome. When the benefits of an efficiently applied technology become obvious, nearly everyone will take advantage.
In any case, if the British had not been in India 150 years ago, we would not have seen yoga in the west as soon as we did, and maybe barely at all by now. For some history on how yoga found its way westward, and the pivotal role of the British, see lesson 253 -- http://www.aypsite.org/253.html
As for the Maharishi, he has had his own agenda, and unfortunately the spiritual aspirations of people everywhere have gradually slipped into a distant second place from his point of view. It is no reflection on the UK or any other nation that has seen the teaching of Transcendental Meditation whither away. It has happened in the USA too, and I think we have been similarly blasted. When someone blames others for their own problems, it is pretty much over, isn't it?
The unstoppable force of spiritual evolution goes on at an ever-increasing rate. Interestingly, and very much to his credit, the Maharishi played an important role in fostering the shift of human consciousness during the 20th century. But now we are in the 21st century and the rules of the game are changing fast. We are moving into powerful integrated systems of self-directed practice. The age of wide open yoga science is dawning!
We owe much to the people and nations, warts and all, who have played a role in getting us to this point. Hopefully we, warts and all, can do as good a job as they did in passing something useful on to our successors.
The guru is in you.
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Shanti
USA
4854 Posts |
Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 10:17:39 AM
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this is of course rubbish everyone has a right to enlightenment no matter what there race or nationality
I agree with you.. this is absolute rubbish...everyone at work laughs at me when I use this word.. which by the way I use very often.. "how British" they say..
You are right everyone has a right to be enlightened. I don't know if anybody else has noticed it.. but this is one thing I have seen... India follows America... whatever is "in" in America.. India will be doing soon. My cousins in India wear more western clothes, shop Victoria's secret.. and up-to-date with more of American stuff, than I think I will ever be. So I think, once yoga becomes popular here.. India will follow... now that is just my opinion for what it is worth. Don't get me wrong, I love India, just wish they would cherish what they have and not run after the West for everything...
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 11:32:54 AM
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There's nothing wrong with an Indian going to the West for Yoga though, is there?
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Shanti
USA
4854 Posts |
Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 11:46:42 AM
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| Nope.. I think it will be better this way.. I think yoga is getting stagnant and stale in India.. too rigid.. to strict.. too clouded with superstitions.. worked in the olden days.. when people did not have a choice.. they did what their Guru told them... or else!!!! Learning from the West will give them a fresh outlook.. they need that.. All I meant by cherish what they have was.. I wish they did not have to loose it all before they tried it again.. |
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nearoanoke
USA
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Posted - Mar 21 2006 : 11:41:41 PM
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I always wonder how much of a person's nature changes with enlightenment. I am sure there will be lot of enlightened sages in India, but how come none of them came out and told the world like Yogani did. Is it because they are not as outgoing? Doesn't this "national personality" change with enlightenment? Just wondering.
Genes are a result of karma RATHER THAN A CAUSE OF IT - Yogani |
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Shanti
USA
4854 Posts |
Posted - Mar 22 2006 : 08:18:02 AM
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Hi Near,
I have often wondered about the same thing. Actually its not that the enlightened beings in India don't want to share their knowledge.. I don't think they know how to.. when I talk to my guru in India.. he tells me nothing that helps me. We need more people like Yogani.. who come down to my level and explain things to me. When I had a energy overload and my head was going to explode.. all my guru could tell me was.. continue with your japa and meditation.. you are going the right way.. well yaa!!! I was going the right way all right.. I did not know I was having an energy overload.. if Yogani wasn't there.. I would be back in that dark corner of depression.. I am not saying my guru is not enlightened.. actually he may even know that I am writing this right now.. I think many of the gurus are like Yogani says in lesson#84.. quote:
successful mountain climbers who have lost their memory. They stand
on top of the mountain and say to everyone down in the valley, "You
don't have to do anything. Just automatically wake up on the top of
the mountain like I did. You are here already." They were born at or
close to enlightenment, and apparently have no recollection of all
the work they did in previous lives to produce that situation. If we
do nothing, we will eventually reach enlightenment a kazillion years
from now. If we do something, it will be much sooner. There are
certain methods that are known to advance the enlightenment process.
That is what yoga is.
Does this mean they are not enlightened.. no just that they have forgotten how they got there and cannot help you. All they can say is.. it will get better.. don't worry. If I could only get more people to see what Yogani is doing with the practice.. of how he has simplified it.. of how he comes down to your and my level to help.. Hopefully some day I will succeed. In my small way I am trying to convince some of the ladies around here to try AYP. It will take time, most of them have a family guru.. and follow what he/she has to say. So it may take some time. I don't want anybody to be upset with me.. I have full respect for all gurus, including my own... but I needed Yogani to show me the way... |
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yogani
USA
5242 Posts |
Posted - Mar 22 2006 : 10:51:50 AM
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Hi Melissa:
100th monkey? I had to look that one up. Fascinating -- "Sudden shift." "Leap of consciousness." "Sea change." "Phase transition." "Critical mass." The rising of the coquinas in the Secrets of Wilder!
Could we be the 100th monkey? Or maybe the 99th? The 100th couldn't be far off.
http://skepdic.com/monkey.html
"The hundredth monkey phenomenon refers to a sudden spontaneous and mysterious leap of consciousness achieved when an allegedly 'critical mass' point is reached. The idea of the hundredth monkey phenomenon comes from Dr. Lyall Watson in his book Lifetide (1979)."
Very interesting ... let's keep going!
The guru is in you.
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 23 2006 : 09:58:42 AM
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I would.
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 23 2006 : 11:26:17 AM
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Melissa said:
As Yogani would (and did) say, "Very interesting ... let's keep going!"
Hmmmm, I don't know what that is about. Perhaps you misunderstood my jocular post, and thought it was an insult or something? It's not an insult, I said I would argue with your being called a monkey. It hardly seems like an occasion for "Yogani would say let's move on".
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 23 2006 : 12:25:12 PM
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Right. Well, if you are eager to get your day flowing smoothly, just a little self-reflection for you to help you see if you need to: posts with content like "Yogani says let's move on" don't encourage "the flow" but rather, inhibit it.
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 23 2006 : 1:22:14 PM
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I was talking about the flow of the forum too, not just your own personal one.
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david_obsidian
USA
2602 Posts |
Posted - Mar 23 2006 : 2:11:27 PM
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No, Melissa, no agreements -- I'll stay free to comment on how I am interacted with.
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