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gentlep
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 Posted - Jan 29 2011 : 9:49:08 PM
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| I hear from various non-dual teachings that "Neither I am the thought nor the thoughts are mine". Now I understand the 1st part that is I am not the thoughts as I can be aware of thought, unless in the moments I am lost in it. But the 2nd part, "Thought are not mine" is confusing. So I guess the definition of "mine" is of question here, isn't it? If I can say, the car is mine, the house is mine, the body is mine etc... doesn't the same "mine" apply to the thought as well? |
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Ananda
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Posted - Feb 05 2011 : 3:24:33 PM
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Dear gentlep,
since we're in the Advaita forum I'll speak pure advaita
Saying that the house is mine, the body is mine ect is also wrong in advaitic terms. Nothing ever existed, nothing ever happened. Because everything outside the body is thought form, which existence depends on the act of seeing. Close your eyes and it will all disappear and you'll be back to your inner thoughts pictures and feeling and if you inquire on those you'll be back to your I and from there well that's for you to find out.
Everything is created to point toward the Atman and it should be used as so. I suggest you read Atmanandopanishat, it's a small beautiful book written by Sri Atmananda Krishna Menon and some of it points really dissect what I am speaking about here and make it much clearer. You may find it for free on www.stillnessspeaks.com
I'll check if the book is still available there and share it in the books forum.
Anyways, back to the main discussion. We should differentiate between advaita talk and normal talk. The first negates the latter. Live normal and talk normal with normal people, talk advaita and live advaita with yourself and other like minded people.
Love,
Ananda |
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Yonatan
Israel
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Posted - Feb 05 2011 : 3:41:22 PM
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| That "mine" feeling can be applied to anything in existence, or, like you may see something in your surroundings, like a tree, and it doesn't have any special significance to you, it is not yours so you don't have to try to keep it or protect it, you just watch it and continue on your way, if you'd think that tree is yours and it is special to you, you'd try to protect it, and if someone will want to cut it down you'd go bonkers!! I think that the people living in non-duality experience thought as just something passing that doesn't have any special significance. But they can use thought still to do whatever they want. |
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Ananda
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Ananda
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Posted - Feb 05 2011 : 3:50:52 PM
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Sorry but I didn't find the free copies for Atmanandopanishat which consists of two books:
Atma Darshan and Atma Nirvrity. |
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