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gentlep

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Posted - Jan 29 2011 :  4:24:58 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
In the following video, Dr vijay shankar says the body moves first and the thought comes later. We then identify with the thought and think we are the doer. Does anyone relate to this? Sometimes that seem true but not always... How about when decide which subject to study, which college to attend to, which place to move, which job to apply and preparing for interview etc. Doesn't the thought follow the action in all those cases?

http://www.here-now-tv.com/fileadmi...ew01_02.html

As a corollary, I was thinking, if everyone sits idle and not do anything assuming that they are not the doer anyway, won't that create a lazy society?

Edited by - gentlep on Jan 29 2011 4:33:08 PM

Holy

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Posted - Jan 31 2011 :  10:04:23 PM  Show Profile  Visit Holy's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
The doing will go on. Even better. Less mind cheats, more action that serves the bliss-expression.

Depending on the society fields, some temporary stops and following changes could look like an increase of laziness.

Better try out for yourself. Give up the control of body and mind for the next 2-3h and let happen what happens, no matter what. God really knows best how to move =)
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gentlep

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Posted - Feb 01 2011 :  7:46:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Holy

The doing will go on. Even better. Less mind cheats, more action that serves the bliss-expression.

Depending on the society fields, some temporary stops and following changes could look like an increase of laziness.

Better try out for yourself. Give up the control of body and mind for the next 2-3h and let happen what happens, no matter what. God really knows best how to move =)



Hi Holy,

2-3hours is fine. The question is about the bigger decisions in life, where we try hard to achieve things, make things happen. How would you let that go and trust that things will happen. And if and when it doesn't, now you have to face not only the self-judgment but judgments from everyone around.
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gentlep

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Posted - Feb 01 2011 :  7:57:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, I think, I am beginning to understand this. It is not what we do or not do, it's the attitude. We probably would do the same things but there is no clinging to the action, nor any attachment to the results. We do actions that seem or feel right at any moment and are grateful for any result that may appear. It's as if saying, actions appeared and results appeared and I had nothing do with it.

Edited by - gentlep on Feb 01 2011 9:02:47 PM
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