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NatanEpsilon

Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - Jan 13 2011 :  11:54:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Message
I was recently introduced with this technique and incorporated it in my AYP daily routine. Is here anyone familiarized with this technique?

Edited by - AYPforum on Jan 13 2011 11:59:37 AM

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Posted - Jan 13 2011 :  11:59:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
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John C

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Posted - Jan 17 2011 :  1:20:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
please elaborate on that question
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NatanEpsilon

Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - Jan 17 2011 :  2:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, the exercise of which I was refering is called Christic Egyptian Pranayama, and Ham-Sah Pranayama is another exercise.
The CEP is explained by Samael Aun Weor and it goes like this:

Esoteric Exercise of Pranayama for Men

1. The disciple places himself in a chair or on the floor with his face directed towards the East.

2. The disciple prays to his Divine Mother with complete devotion and sincerity asking that she awaken him, awaken his Kundalini.

3. The chest, neck, and head should be in a straight or vertical line. Do not lean your body to the front, to the back or to one side. The palms of the hands should rest on your legs in a very natural position.

4. The mind of the disciple should be directed towards his Innermost, his Divine Mother, loving her, adoring her.

5. Close your eyes so that the matters from the physical world do not distract you.

6. Cover or close your right nostril with the thumb of your right hand. Mentally vocalize the mantra “TON.” At the same time inhale slowly through the cavity of your left nostril.

7. Now, close the left nostril with the index finger of your right hand. Hold your breath; retain your breath. Mentally send the Prana to the temple of Ephesus (the Chakra situated in the coccyx, the small bone at the lower extremity of the spinal column) in order to awaken the Kundalini and mentally pronounce the mantra “SA.”

8. Now exhale slowly from the right nostril mentally vocalizing the mantra “HAM.”

9. Now close the left nostril with your index finger.

10. Inhale the life, the Prana, through the right nostril mentally vocalizing the mantra “TON.” Close both of your nostrils with your index finger and your thumb and retain the breath. Mentally vocalize the mantra “RA.” Send the Prana to the magnetic center of the coccyx in order to awaken the Kundalini.

11. Exhale slowly through the left nostril mentally vocalizing the mantra “HAM.”

12. This constitutes one complete Pranayama.

13. Repeat this complete process six times (twice a day at dusk and dawn).

14. The devotee will kneel on the ground.

15. Once he is on the ground the devotee places the palms of his hands on the floor, the thumbs of the two hands together.

16. Prostrated on the ground, with his body inclined forward, with his head facing the East, and filled with supreme veneration he then places his forehead on his hands, Egyptian style.

17. Next, with his powerfully creative word, the disciple vocalizes the mantra “RA,” the mantra of the Egyptians. This mantra “RA” is vocalized by prolonging the sound of its two letters, as follows: RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrAaaaaaaaaaaa. Vocalize the mantra seven times.


Samael Aun Weor is Gnostic Erudite who summarize all occult-esoteric teachings in history and all religious practices from around the world. This Pranayama exercise it is said that gives enormous power to the practicians. I'm doing it for a week, therefore I ask the question is there anyone here who is familiarized with this technique better than I am.
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NatanEpsilon

Fyro Macedonia
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Posted - Jan 19 2011 :  03:42:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply

Hi John C,
Thank you for your replay!

I learn about this practice in the gnostic teachings site dedicated to the teachings of Samael Aun Weor. I searched for the techniques about Transmutation of the Sexual Energy and there I find them. It wasn't clear how to control (visualize) the energy so I mixed up the technique that Yogani describes here as Spinal Breathing Pranayama with Ton-Sa-Ham and Ton-Ra-Ham mantras. While inhaling I visualize energy goes from the mooladhara (Yesod) chakra up to the upper head while I'm mentally vibrating the mantra TON. Then I visualize the energy in the third eye center while I'm mantring the SA(and RA), and then while I'm exhailing I'm lifting the energy back to the mooladhara center while Im vibrating the word HAM. Have you tried it this way? What do you think of this? In which way you practice this technique?

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John C

USA
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Posted - Jan 21 2011 :  01:08:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Natan,
Yes, I too experience the prana flowing up from below to above with in breath, and returning back down with out breath. And I will often mentally be saying Ham and Sa with in and out breath. I often combine that with Khechari mudra. Sometimes, in fact most of the time, I simply meditate on the breath, and when thoughts arise, just gently return awareness to the breath, as per Vipassana Buddhist practice, which was my first entry point to meditation.

So, though you are coming at this from a different teacher and teaching, I am sure the people who contribute their thoughts on this website, will agree with us that this is spinal breathing and pranayama of a sort, and thus within the common yogic tradition.
Appropriate that you would be writing about these practices on "Other Systems of Practice" sub-forum because we are not practicing exactly according to what the author of this site recommends. Keep up the good work.

Edited by - John C on Jan 25 2011 12:14:43 AM
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vijikr

United Arab Emirates
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Posted - Jan 21 2011 :  02:28:03 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

I too started with sameul teachings and have practiced localizing the mantra RA,FA RA OM etc and it did help me with being in present moment and I was aware of dreaming and I did get some spiritual assistance in astral.

Then I found AYP along the path other than doing youga and stuffs..yes it helps but I never practiced in a way explained by u or john..I think Iam no expert but adding AYP tech made great change and it was like wow!

Love n Light
Viji
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