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Frank-in-SanDiego
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 Posted - Feb 19 2006 : 6:15:51 PM
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Hari Om
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Hello sadhaka,
There is a sutra (or stitch) in the Chhandogya Upanishad that says,
".... if one were to tell this (Truth) to a dried-up stump for sure, branches would shoot forth and leaves would spring from it". So, says Satyakama, the rishi, in the Chhandogya Upanishad.
What could be so powerful as to cause this? The metaphor is that of one being able to talk the Truth (therefore an enlightened being doing the instructing) and giving this knowledge to another * usually a sisya, or student.
The knowledge that is being discussed is called a vidya , or insight, a practice. Its also called sadhana(spiritual practice)and the one that performs this is a sadhaka. Just as you entertained the notion of recognizing space vs. all the material/solid things [see http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic....TOPIC_ID=702] and perhaps connected with this space (akasha) via Hrim (pronouced Hreem) , that was a vidya.
What is interesting is this vidya is called the prana vidya... some know prana as air, life force, etc etc. but as you can expect it is much more profound then air. This prana is a vital limb (prarika) of a key tenet of Brahman, or this Fullness (plenum) we discussed in other posts.
Brahman is called Satchitananda - or Truth (Sat) of Being , Consciousness (chit) and Bliss-delight (ananda). Note this 3-in-1 relationship? We see this other places - The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Brahman as akasha - all encompassing ether (akasha) and is the substance of delight of SELF-being ( Sat-Truth);
Brahman as prana is this active consciousness that is inherent in Brahman as Life-force, and is verily consciousness - it is undecaying and it's immortal - it is the power of the Spirit. Some call this the active force of consciousness that is breathed into all (into the individual, the jiva, or soul) - I can see this as the Holy Spirit, the holy Consciousness - Prana.
So we as mere small divine beings can appreciate Brahman as aksasa, and consciousness and can experience this Brahman somewhat from looking/contemplating and meditations and transcending to get a feel Brahman, yet still so vast and huge for us to really 'get it' until we live and breathe Brahman once enlightened.
So how does the Son fit in to this discussion? It is said in this Chhandogya Upanishad, there is a special being called Sanatkumara. This name is of great interest - Sana comes from "sanatana" or eternal + "kumara" or divine child.
There is a special function of the Son of the Creator (Sanatkumara) to dispel the darkness of humans and bring the light. For those that may read the bible, (John 14:6-21) Jesus points out, "No one comes to the Father except through me". This is the concept of Sanatkumara.
Jesus is declaring he understands this principle and is teaching it thus, as Sanatkumara. In the final episode of your development there is a helper, a deliverer. Jesus was one. The principle of Sanatkumara has been here for eon's....before and after Jesus, yet Jesus is Sanatkumara in the living flesh that recognized this and could act on it .
The final deliverer is there by HIS Grace, and is HIS Grace, that delivers one's self to the SELF to enlightenment and he does Brahma's ( Brahman's name as Creator)work.
It is said that the SELF reveals itSELF to itSELF... we just prepare the land to get it ready with our prayers, meditations and good works... as Jesus said, (John 6:44-45) "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him,and I will raise him up at the last day". What is this last day? For me, its the last day of IGNORANCE of not personally and intimately knowing the SELF (Atman), Brahman, and the day Sanatkuma completes the task of deliverer for the sadhaka.
May Sanatkuma befriend you soon.
agnir satyam rtam brhat
Frank in San-Diego
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Edited by - Frank-in-SanDiego on Feb 19 2006 11:34:10 PM |
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Etherfish
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Posted - Feb 19 2006 : 8:45:56 PM
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Are you saying Jesus isn't the ONLY way, and the "last day" isn't the end of the world where christians will be validated and everyone else dumpstered? heh heh just joking.
So it's unclear to me- can one become a "Sanatkumara" or is that done only by God, or both together? And was the Sanatkumara a normal human at one point? Have they ever been women?
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Frank-in-SanDiego
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Posted - Feb 19 2006 : 11:30:34 PM
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Hari Om
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quote:
...can one become a "Sanatkumara" or is that done only by God
Hello Etherfish,
According to the vidya, this Sanatkumara is 'stainless', the blessed.
It is his job to assist with the direct perception of the Supreme.
Now, Adi Shankara announces that Sanatkumara is one and the same as Sanatsujata, the Divine sage. He is not of this earth. He is born of the eternal Brahma's mind, of His creation, Divine substance.
As all the knots of ignorance are removed, the intuition improves, the ability for the realization of the Supreme increases.
Yet one 'knot' remains they say, that of the knot in the heart - mula-avidya. The purity, intuitive grasp, and a fixed and constant memory of the Divine can go far for the sadhaka, yet this final 'knot' is between him and the realization of SELF. It is through Sanatkumara, the off-spring of the Creator, and issue of Effulgence, that assists in this last stage.
May Sanatkumara befriend us all...
agnir satyam rtam brhat
Frank in San-Diego
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